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Definitely more of a talent problem than coaching problem.

Not a Cal fan, but we missed a LOT of WIDE OPEN shots. That’s not the coaches, that’s the players. I’m more concerned about the defense.we are awful at that end of the floor. We don’t have one player who can take his defender off the dribble. NIT bound I’m afraid.
 
And there is a coaching problem to be sure, but this team lacks the skills and readiness to contributor at a high level. And the best okayers have major limitations . There ate at least 6-7 SEC teams with better rosters.
Returning NPOY, returning core players, CJ was a shooter at Iowa and a top recruiting class. The chemistry is there for a great team
 
Garbage Coaching is the reason. All the transfers were proven college players, many 5 star players. And how the hell you can say no talent when there is the reigning National Player of the Year?!?!
Who were the 5-star players ??
 
And there is a coaching problem to be sure, but this team lacks the skills and readiness to contributor at a high level. And the best okayers have major limitations . There ate at least 6-7 SEC teams with better rosters.
If that was the case Bryce Hopkins wouldn't be killing at Providence. The fact that Hopkins is killing it at Providence proves its a coaching problem.
 
It's a coaching problem. It's not even debatable.
It's a coaching problem and a talent problem and yes, it's debatable. You couldn't see the difference in talent today? The lack of talent is on the coaches and once the lesser talented players are here, there's no meaningful coaching.
 
It both but in college he’s responsible for the talent part too. That being said, we have some talent it’s just not a constructed roster to mesh together and he’s done a pitiful job of getting the most out of it.
Again, if he keeps trying to recapture the old formula that used to work he’s going to continue to fall short because the game started changing the day after the warriors won in a new way
 
I think a lot of people assumed Frederick would be a bucket. Not Herro or anything, but a big contributor. Total bust.
Amazing that he was able to shoot 50% in a power 5 conference. Then he comes to Kentucky and can’t make anything.

We can argue about talent levels SEC vs Big 10, but he wasn’t playing in the Sun Belt. He had success in a real conference. Comes into Cal’s offense and can’t do anything.
 
People who actually somehow believe it's a talent issue make me lose faith in humanity.
 
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Do we think it’s a coincidence that we have players who show glimpses of being shooters or other athlete abilities. We see them throughout the season, a little here, a little there. Then there first season in the NBA, they exploded and are 10X the player they where just a year before, while playing for CCC……….
 
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I’m curious, who put the team together?

Who put the 9-16 team together?

You want to blame the players no matter what. But who’s the guy that thought they were good enough?

Every excuse comes back to Cal.
That 9-16 team had 2 players that are playing lights out in the NBA , Quickley and Maxey. There was no excuse for that team to have played as poorly as they did. People , it's the lack of coaching no if's, and's, or but's about it.
 
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St Peters had more talent than us too, right?
St Peters was a better team than us, yes. Only two of our players could have played for St Peters and one of them was hurt.

That was last season. This season is the same story. Lack of UK level talent. If the NBA raft were tomorrow we don't have even one player that would be drafted in the first round.

And I'm not defending Cal. I'm damning Cal for this roster.
 
Weave pointlessly. Then wait until 8 seconds before a desperate drive and dish out to the 3 point line for the pump and drive 1 inch inside the line for a long two. Or worse yet, PG runs into 2-3 defenders and flails his arms and throws up a brick or gets blocked.

Then watch as it goes the other way for a 2 on 3 for a somehow easy basket.

It’s not the people. It’s the process. So says Deming.
 
That 9-16 team had 2 players that are playing lights out in the NBA , Quickley and Maxey. There was no excuse for that team to have played as poorly as they did. People , it's the lack of coaching no if's, and's, or but's about it.
Others have pointed out your error. To your point, it did have 3 players (Boston, Sarr, Jackson) that played NBA minutes the next year. It was a terribly put together and terribly scouted (Askew, Ware, Fletcher) team.
 
And there is a coaching problem to be sure, but this team lacks the skills and readiness to contributor at a high level. And the best okayers have major limitations . There ate at least 6-7 SEC teams with better rosters.
You hit the nail on the head or foul line or something somewhere, I think.
 
UK has as good of a roster as any team in the country.

Now that’s funny…

Just today, one game against an SEC West squad, and we didn’t have the best roster on the floor.

Bama’s roster looked like a vintage Cal roster. 7’ - 6’10 - 6’9. Could switch every pick on the floor. Tons of length and skill. Absolutely suffocating on defense.

So, Bama aside, how many other teams have more physical talent?

Our C goes what…6’8? A 2nd draft pick. Would be a very nice role player on a good roster. We don’t have a 4 man. Toppin is supposed to be that guy, he’s not a factor at all. Livingston at 3…not a factor, hasn’t played a lot. Cason Wallace, legit 1st rd talent. Sahvir…physically limited, not an NBA pick. Puts up decent numbers because he pounds the rock.

The only Cal is/was good at is recruiting. He’s not getting 5 1st rd picks anymore. He’s getting smoked.
 
Who decided Toppin was a good player and brought him into the program? Whose job is it to work with these guys and develop their skills?

Is it the same guy who takes credit for putting 5-star recruits NBA every year?

I don’t think anybody is using the talent to excuse Calipari from his awful coaching. It’s just more damning evidenced that he should he fired. The #1 reason he should be fired. Nobody has ever claimed Calipari was a good X and O coach.

His recruiting fell after his failed stint with team USA u19. When he lost WWW, Duke landed the Big 3, and the rest is history. He’s been given a pass far too long.
 
Talent not the problem. This is absolutely a coaching staff issue. Cal needs some fresh bodies and creative minds on his staff.
 
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Man any coach in America would love to have this roster, its not the players, its the piss poor offense, its the coach controlling every offensive possession, its not being more aggressive on defense, we should be full court pressing, playing zone at times, the offense is made for Princeton, you got athletes who are use to pushing the ball and being aggressive, not slowing it down and passing 50 times. NO ADJUSTMENTS DURING THE GAME AT ALL, WRONG LINEUP AT TIMES, WELL ALOT, Give Tubby or Pitino this Roster and we still a top 5 team, with maybe 1 loss.
 
It's a coaching problem. It's not even debatable.
Not coaching on how to miss shots.
we had 19 more fg attempts
starters were 5-35 fga
starters 1-12 3 pt attempts All were open/uncontested shots. Reeves 4/7 o open shots

No team can win with these stats
 
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And there is a coaching problem to be sure, but this team lacks the skills and readiness to contributor at a high level. And the best okayers have major limitations . There ate at least 6-7 SEC teams with better rosters.
Completely disagree, he’s again, a horrific bench coach that runs nothing offensively, and he also built this team.
 
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