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[AustinTXCat]

Good morning from ATX. Currently 80°F and mostly cloudy. Today's high could max around 99°F.

News reports huge increase in local drivers running out of gas while driving. Seems obvious since fuel prices skyrocketed.

Welcome back @Bkocats and @starchief5 . Great seeing y'all again.

Happy Hump Day.

Wishing happiness and health for all our fellow D-League members.

 

[MdWIldcat55]

Good morning D-League. I’m enjoying a quiet moment before my wife and two 20-somethings are up and about. Doing some reading on history, including a new book on Watergate.

Having lived all my adult life in DC, I’ve met some historical footnotes. One I actually became friends with before he died too young was Carl Shoffler, the undercover cop who arrested the Watergate burglars. I met Carl when he became a source of mine when he was a member of the city’s mayoral security detail, leaking me info about the criminal activities of DC Mayor Marion Barry. I guess I can say that now as they both are dead.

This week is 50 years since Watergate and it’s still a subject around which a lot isn’t known and there is a lot of irony. For example while Shoffler never regretted doing his job and arresting the Watergate burglars, he did regret that Nixon was destroyed by the scandal and that what he saw as cynical liberals were empowered by his demise to push a far left agenda. Interesting to think what would have happened if those guys were never busted, Nixon serves out his second term in triumph, and whoever he anoints as his successor crushes the Georgia Peanut Farmer in 1976.

Hope you all have a good day.

 

[warrior-cat]

I'm gay. I identify as a straight white guy. My pronouns are MR and SIR. I'm not a very good gay. I've never had a dalliance with a dude, but if I ever do, I'll say "this ain't right". I mean that in the least gay way you can imagine. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Had a co-worker once who said he was a lesbian in a man's body.

 

[warrior-cat]

I'm glad I don't drink anymore.

Me too, I just don't drink any less either. Not much, most of the time a single drink a night after dinner. On occasion, a little more.

 

[warrior-cat]

@Bert Higginbotha
Here I am

To save the day!

 

[Sawnee Cat]

 

[warrior-cat]

Wow not sure what’s happened here but it’s definitely not good
Bert told me on Facebook that I needed to come back now..so I did
Now I’m uncertain it was the best idea

No, stay. It is just an alcohol induced tiff. It happens rarely. I probably piss a few off here from time to time but I assure all, it is never intentional. Well, maybe one poster but only return fire and then it is back to normal.

 

[warrior-cat]

The good part of the D-League is you can say what you want. We are here.

We need girls. You basically are the only one that will tolerate a bunch of old men.

Girls, Girls, Girls. Marsha, Marsha, Marsha. Russia, Russia, Russia.

Sorry, my mind just went that way.

 

[Sawnee Cat]

Been battling with an attack of sciatica for about 3 weeks now. Really took me down hard.
First time I ever had any back problems. I think I am now in the early stage of getting better. I guess I have some catching up to do. A good thing about it was that I lost 15 pounds because I was unable to make it as far as the kitchen.

Good to see your name starchief5, it is not the same D League without you. There are a few others I would like to see jump back on board too. Nice to see Bev make an appearance.

I sure understand and can relate to your sciatica problems. That old back can reap havoc on a man. Of the total of 11 major surgeries I have had in my life 5 were on my spine and the last one should be the end all. X-rays of my back look like a railroad track. But that is in the past I am renewed and can do anything and go anywhere I desire. So God is good.

Prayers will be directed your way as you get pass this and 100%. Well as close to 100% as a man of our age can get. Stay cool in that Arizona heat.

 

[Sawnee Cat]

No, stay. It is just an alcohol induced tiff. It happens rarely. I probably piss a few off here from time to time but I assure all, it is never intentional. Well, maybe one poster but only return fire and then it is back to normal.

Hey Sarge we were trained to do that. They sent us to school for that purpose.

 

[warrior-cat]

Morning Legionnaires!

Triple digits or there abouts for the last few days and will continue for a while. Mowing and weed eating on tap today.

Played 2 softball games last night after texting the man running the team that I would not be there because of a rib injury that makes it hard to run, throw, breath or hit. However, he texted back that we did not have enough for field a team without me last night so, I limped in after taking a few (4) Ibuprofens to help. Did little but, I still played so...

We won the first game and lost the second. I batted ok in the first but not good in the second. No Pete Rose dives last night. Was not in the cards.

@AustinTXCat a day early with the national lobster day. My wife and I celebrate our anniversary tomorrow (22 years) and we always eat at Red Lobster. Daughter loves it because it is the one time a year she gets lobster and she really likes it.

To the rest of you, have a great day and Lighten up Francis!

 

[berniecarbo]

I've stayed away from posting for a couple of days because I feel I may have helped light the fire with my comment about not drinking. No ill will was intended. After the war I used drinking (to excess) as an excuse/crutch. I had 99% quit and then I developed Meniere's Disease which made it easier to finish quitting as alcohol can set off an attack. Again no ill will was intended against anyone, it was just a personal observation.

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

@AustinTXCat a day early with the national lobster day. My wife and I celebrate our anniversary tomorrow (22 years) and we always eat at Red Lobster. Daughter loves it because it is the one time a year she gets lobster and she really likes it.

Congrats a day early.

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

Another hot one on the way here in Smiths Grove. It is 83.7°F on our way to a hot 96° again today. No clouds to cool the sun.

Hope you get feeling better @starchief5 backs are painful things if they get screwed up.

I did not go out side yesterday, but I may have to today.

You all be good.

 

[Sawnee Cat]

I've stayed away from posting for a couple of days because I feel I may have helped light the fire with my comment about not drinking. No ill will was intended. After the war I used drinking (to excess) as an excuse/crutch. I had 99% quit and then I developed Meniere's Disease which made it easier to finish quitting as alcohol can set off an attack. Again no ill will was intended against anyone, it was just a personal observation.

It is good. I have refrained from heavy drinking since I was married and really didn't drink that much before I married. My wife's father was a WWII vet who served in the South Pacific in a rifleman company. He was a trained sniper. The war took a toll on him as he was involved in some of the most intense fighting in WWII. He saw a lot of death and he drank heavy for the rest of his life. My wife was scared from childhood because of it. Some of these scars continued into adulthood.

We really didn't know how vicious the battles were he was involved in until his funeral. A stranger showed up who was a WWII vet also and explained to the family what he went through. He was decorated at the Battle of Peleliu with a Bronze Star with valor. The high casualty rate at Peleliu exceeded that of all other amphibious operations during the Pacific War. It was "the bitterest battle of the war for the Marines". They pretty much got wiped out and the Army's 81th Infantry was assigned to the 1st Marines to offer support. This was the unit my father in law was in. The 81th also took heavy casualties. The 81st was nicknamed the "Wildcats" and composed of soldiers from the South and rural areas. The Wildcats grew out of the The "Stonewall Jackson Division", named for the beloved Southern General.

My wife had no idea about any of this until after his death and she searched the records and discovered the documents of the viciousness of the battle. His Army records were amazing. He never discussed it but his brother told of the time he killed a Japanese sniper who had the Company Commander in his sights. Her father shot the Japanese soldier dead. Experiences like this no doubt kicked off a serious drinking addiction for the rest of his life. I made a promise to my wife before we married that any drinking I did would be social only and limited. She would never see me stagger home or drunk. I found it was not a hard promise to keep.

 

[_Rooster]

 

[UK_fan_41102]

It "cools" down to 80° Saturday and Sunday before another heat wave hits the first of next week. Next Tuesday and Wednesday are predicted to hit 100° and 99° respectfully.

 

[berniecarbo]

It is good. I have refrained from heavy drinking since I was married and really didn't drink that much before I married. My wife's father was a WWII vet who served in the South Pacific in a rifleman company. He was a trained sniper. The war took a toll on him as he was involved in some of the most intense fighting in WWII. He saw a lot of death and he drank heavy for the rest of his life. My wife was scared from childhood because of it. Some of these scars continued into adulthood.

We really didn't know how vicious the battles were he was involved in until his funeral. A stranger showed up who was a WWII vet also and explained to the family what he went through. He was decorated at the Battle of Peleliu with a Bronze Star with valor. The high casualty rate at Peleliu exceeded that of all other amphibious operations during the Pacific War. It was "the bitterest battle of the war for the Marines". They pretty much got wiped out and the Army's 81th Infantry was assigned to the 1st Marines to offer support. This was the unit my father in law was in. The 81th also took heavy casualties. The 81st was nicknamed the "Wildcats" and composed of soldiers from the South and rural areas. The Wildcats grew out of the The "Stonewall Jackson Division", named for the beloved Southern General.

My wife had no idea about any of this until after his death and she searched the records and discovered the documents of the viciousness of the battle. His Army records were amazing. He never discussed it but his brother told of the time he killed a Japanese sniper who had the Company Commander in his sights. Her father shot the Japanese soldier dead. Experiences like this no doubt kicked off a serious drinking addiction for the rest of his life. I made a promise to my wife before we married that any drinking I did would be social only and limited. She would never see me stagger home or drunk. I found it was not a hard promise to keep.

I am nothing compared to him, but you do see some gruesome things. 2 things bothered me most. One is we shared a perimeter with ROK marines. I was head of a SAT team and was radioed to go to where our sector met theirs and find out what was going on. Turns out they had caught a Vietnamese woman sneaking through the fence. They had stuck a slap flare up the woman's privates and set it off. She was literally burning to death from the insides. I can still hear her screams at night when everything is quiet. The sounds coming from her were not sounds you think humans can make. The other involves some innocents who died because they helped us.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

@AustinTXCat

I don't know if you can still send private messages, looked to see if I could send you one...anyway, just so you know that UKWoodford in the political board is Baller Cat and then he was Caller Bal and he has had 40 screen names. Anyway, he is trying to play nice now but he use to constantly b-tch about me, you, and Knowls. I'm sure you remember, he often tried to sh-t on the city of Austin and say no conservative would live there. You many not care, but it is cracking me up he is now trying to buddy up to you. This isn't a guess, I know it's him. Just thought I would let you know, my favorite is when he said you and me were desperate for 'likes' haha

 

[AustinTXCat]

@AustinTXCat

I don't know if you can still send private messages, looked to see if I could send you one...anyway, just so you know that UKWoodford in the political board is Baller Cat and then he was Caller Bal and he has had 40 screen names. Anyway, he is trying to play nice now but he use to constantly b-tch about me, you, and Knowls. I'm sure you remember, he often tried to sh-t on the city of Austin and say no conservative would live there. You many not care, but it is cracking me up he is now trying to buddy up to you. This isn't a guess, I know it's him. Just thought I would let you know, my favorite is when he said you and me were desperate for 'likes' haha

Thanks for the heads-up. Henceforth, I'll act accordingly.

 

[Sawnee Cat]

@AustinTXCat

I don't know if you can still send private messages, looked to see if I could send you one...anyway, just so you know that UKWoodford in the political board is Baller Cat and then he was Caller Bal and he has had 40 screen names. Anyway, he is trying to play nice now but he use to constantly b-tch about me, you, and Knowls. I'm sure you remember, he often tried to sh-t on the city of Austin and say no conservative would live there. You many not care, but it is cracking me up he is now trying to buddy up to you. This isn't a guess, I know it's him. Just thought I would let you know, my favorite is when he said you and me were desperate for 'likes' haha

I put Baller Cat on ignore and had no idea

 

[TheFrontRunner]

I put Baller Cat on ignore and had no idea

The first avatar for woodford was Pittsburgh pirates old player just like baller, look at how he acts when anyone disagrees with him in the golf thread or the johnny depp thread he started...exactly same behavior, exact silly insults. I almost never get on rafters, saw a couple posters early on too call him out as Baller as well but I already knew. Dude has had at least a dozen accounts I bet. In the political board he was trying to act different than before, get along instead of arguing with long time posters. Sorry to interrupt the D-league, just wanted to let my brother Austin know.

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

I can't believe we are up to 4551!

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

@AustinTXCat

I don't know if you can still send private messages, looked to see if I could send you one...anyway, just so you know that UKWoodford in the political board is Baller Cat and then he was Caller Bal and he has had 40 screen names. Anyway, he is trying to play nice now but he use to constantly b-tch about me, you, and Knowls. I'm sure you remember, he often tried to sh-t on the city of Austin and say no conservative would live there. You many not care, but it is cracking me up he is now trying to buddy up to you. This isn't a guess, I know it's him. Just thought I would let you know, my favorite is when he said you and me were desperate for 'likes' haha

Thanks for the heads-up. Henceforth, I'll act accordingly.

Look for a private message.

 

[warrior-cat]

I will look for a private massage. My ribs are hurting.

 

[BBUK]

Thank you gentlemen

not sure how much of a benefit but all good
I just don’t like seeing conflict like that. The older I get the less I can handle

at any rate..life is crazy busy as usual. We’re still trying to settle into our house; especially now that our older son moved back in and we have his little girl with us too about 95% of the time
Younger son is still struggling..they finally determined he is likely autistic (well no duh) and he’s having a formal evaluation on the 30th
Still not happy about the state of our basketball program or our coach, but can’t dwell on it right now

hoping that this time around in the D there will be more interaction and not just everyone liking my posts

hugs

I don't like your posts......

(I've been hacked...)😉

 

[_Rooster]

I was very worried about you until I figured out your post Rooster. I haven't had multiple blackouts over a Saturday-Sunday since I stopped measuring my bourbon intake by the pint and put away the Wild Turkey 101...I was pretty much past that phase by 27...My wife, who I met fairly soon after that period, thinks of me as a very moderate drinker, never drunk and rarely deep enough into it to show even moderate effects. She finds it hard to believe I was coming off a ten-year reign of terror when we met. But I was one of the lucky ones who changed in time.

Back to downtown DC for the job. My personal least enjoyable weather of the year is about now until mid-September, at least when I have to wear button-down business clothes.

Hope it is a good day for all...

1st) I've found limited explanation. None for the Friday outages. Saturday a damaged line was grounding. No outages since.

2nd) I have had a blackout. Don't remember. Maybe a couple. according to the stories & scars. Only one I can remember. Some 30 or so years ago, I was sitting on a stool of a favorite watering hole and I informed the bartender I couldn't see, that I was blind drunk. He knew me and that I knew the band before they knew each other so he flagged one over. They determined that I was harmless but unable to drive. That I'd be fine until closing time. When closing time rolled around, Ronnie locked up my truck then hauled me home following verbal instructions by someone who was literally blind drunk. I'm no Saint.​

Good morning D-League. I’m enjoying a quiet moment before my wife and two 20-somethings are up and about. Doing some reading on history, including a new book on Watergate.

Having lived all my adult life in DC, I’ve met some historical footnotes. One I actually became friends with before he died too young was Carl Shoffler, the undercover cop who arrested the Watergate burglars. I met Carl when he became a source of mine when he was a member of the city’s mayoral security detail, leaking me info about the criminal activities of DC Mayor Marion Barry. I guess I can say that now as they both are dead.

This week is 50 years since Watergate and it’s still a subject around which a lot isn’t known and there is a lot of irony. For example while Shoffler never regretted doing his job and arresting the Watergate burglars, he did regret that Nixon was destroyed by the scandal and that what he saw as cynical liberals were empowered by his demise to push a far left agenda. Interesting to think what would have happened if those guys were never busted, Nixon serves out his second term in triumph, and whoever he anoints as his successor crushes the Georgia Peanut Farmer in 1976.

Hope you all have a good day.

You mention being a Maryland history buff so here's some links of interest. Nicholas Causine. Born about 1608, his father and GF were both named Ignatius Causine from France. Once in Maryland, the Causines & descendants consistently married into families of the SJ. These families were advisors to George Washington his entire life.​

Had a co-worker once who said he was a lesbian in a man's body.

1st) I think of you mentioning being unfamiliar with your ancestry as I explore mine. When I think about my mother being rescue from an orphanage by a soldier (Estill Arms) from Sunfish,KY after WWII, My father an agnostic not knowing about our his ancestry either. My paternal GF taught me about a military saint "Ignatius of Loyola". At 71, after 40 years research I still find out about men like this being in the family. Not as ancestors per se. Men like George Washington, Merriweather Lewis. Saint Robert Middleton and now apparently Saint Ignatius of Loyola. Now I'm not a Catholic (at least not yet). I'm still learning a lot just reading about Ignatius and the constitutions he meditated over.

2nd) I've also a maternal 2nd cousin " Sweet Baby Dumplin" (the one I shot.) who has claimed he's a cheating lesbian tramp since 1967. Tongue firmly planted firmly. Most everybody (fuddy duddies & goody goodies) hate him but not me. He's a riot. I think like him but learned early on to build a wall between my brain and my mouth around mixed company.​

 

[MdWIldcat55]

Thanks for that information on the Causine family of Maryland, Rooster.

My family came to Delaware, then rapidly into Maryland a few years after that, around the 1630s. They moved on up to the Frederick, Maryland area before settling a little town that still bears the family name of Hedgesville, Virginia - later WVA. Then, on into Kentucky in the very early days of settling the Bluegrass.

Ironically, I ended up back within 50 miles of where my family owned property more than three hundred years ago.

 

[warrior-cat]

1st) I've found limited explanation. None for the Friday outages. Saturday a damaged line was grounding. No outages since.

2nd) I have had a blackout. Don't remember. Maybe a couple. according to the stories & scars. Only one I can remember. Some 30 or so years ago, I was sitting on a stool of a favorite watering hole and I informed the bartender I couldn't see, that I was blind drunk. He knew me and that I knew the band before they knew each other so he flagged one over. They determined that I was harmless but unable to drive. That I'd be fine until closing time. When closing time rolled around, Ronnie locked up my truck then hauled me home following verbal instructions by someone who was literally blind drunk. I'm no Saint.

You mention being a Maryland history buff so here's some links of interest. Nicholas Causine. Born about 1608, his father and GF were both named Ignatius Causine from France. Once in Maryland, the Causines & descendants consistently married into families of the SJ. These families were advisors to George Washington his entire life.

1st) I think of you mentioning not familiar with your ancestry as I explore mine. When I think about my mother being rescue from an orphanage by a soldier from Sunfish,KY after WWII, My father an agnostic not knowing about our his ancestry either. My paternal GF taught me about a military saint "Ignatius of Loyola". At 71, after 40 years research I still finde out about men like this being in the family. Not as ancestors per se. Men like George Washington, Merriweather Lewis. Saint Robert Middleton and now apparently Saint Ignatius of Loyola. Now I'm not a Catholic (at least not yet). I'm still learning a lot just reading about Ignatius and the constitutions he meditated over.

2nd) I've also a maternal 2nd cousin " Sweet Baby Dumplin" (the one I shot.) who has claimed he's a cheating lesbian tramp since 1967. Tongue firmly planted firmly. Most everybody (fuddy duddies & goody goodies) hate him but not me. He's a riot. I think like him but learned early on to build a wall between my brain and my mouth around mixed company.​

Never knew my GM from my mother's side who died before I turned 1 nor my GM or GF from my biological father's side because he left when I was about 6 or 7 and we had not met them before then. Never met anyone from his family so I have no idea of our real lineage or heritage other than what my brother found out from one of those family name sites who I think are just throwing ish out there for money. Gave us no names other than the derivatives of our last name and where they originated from in Scotland/Ireland. Only one I knew was my GF from my mother's side who died in 1978 when I was in Germany. Not sure if anyone kept records so it is just a blank for me.

 

[_Rooster]

Never knew my GM from my mother's side who died before I turned 1 nor my GM or GF from my biological father's sided because he left when I was about 6 or 7 and we had not met them before then. Never met anyone from his family so I have no idea of our real lineage or heritage other than what my brother found out from one of those family name sites who I think are just throwing ish out there for money. Gave us no names other than the derivatives of our last name and where they originated from in Scotland/Ireland. Only one I knew was my GF from my mother's side who died in 1978 when I was in Germany. Not sure if anyone kept records so it is just a blank for me.​

"Sweet Baby Dumplin" (2nd from left) was rescued by his mother just as his older brother (on far right) had tied him up and about to be burn him at the stake when his Mom hollered out "Don't you hurt my sweet baby dumplin." He recently informed me he was a Catholic. When I asked him how did that happen. He informed me he was baptized in the hospital when he was 2 weeks old and everyone thought he was dying, blaming Uncle (for me cousin) Chubb for saving him. Nobody knew for over 50 years and it shows up folded in Uncle Chubb's Bible.​

 

[UK_fan_41102]

 

[_Rooster]

@AustinTXCat

I don't know if you can still send private messages, looked to see if I could send you one...anyway, just so you know that UKWoodford in the political board is Baller Cat and then he was Caller Bal and he has had 40 screen names. Anyway, he is trying to play nice now but he use to constantly b-tch about me, you, and Knowls. I'm sure you remember, he often tried to sh-t on the city of Austin and say no conservative would live there. You many not care, but it is cracking me up he is now trying to buddy up to you. This isn't a guess, I know it's him. Just thought I would let you know, my favorite is when he said you and me were desperate for 'likes' haha

 

[_Rooster]

Thanks for that information on the Causine family of Maryland, Rooster.

My family came to Delaware, then rapidly into Maryland a few years after that, around the 1630s. They moved on up to the Frederick, Maryland area before settling a little town that still bears the family name of Hedgesville, Virginia - later WVA. Then, on into Kentucky in the very early days of settling the Bluegrass.

Ironically, I ended up back within 50 miles of where my family owned property more than three hundred years ago.

This site is awesome and updated regularly. Hedges

 

[MdWIldcat55]

This site is awesome and updated regularly. Hedges

Thanks Rooster. Yes, that’s my folks. If you follow this line long enough you get to my grandfather, Joseph Roy Hedges, and my grandmother, Maude McKibben, in Bracken County, married after his service in WW1. Googling their names produces a very similar genealogy put together by someone who must be a cousin of mine (common great grandfather) but who I never knew.

 

[BBUK]

Hello all,
I do hope all are well. My Darling and I have taken some much needed time away and have had a chance to go crabbing a few times. I took off work today to go crabbing with My Darling....

We were in Maryland today and had the pier all to ourselves...

Caught only 16. I missed 7 or 8 big ones. (Weren't prepared to cast-line'em but we did.) We ended up going to the cast line and net trick but it worked. They weren't touching the collapsible traps today for some reason. My Darling is happy and that is good enough. She is cleaning the crabs now.

Have a great rest of your evening. Back at it tomorrow but I have Friday off as well as it is my RDO. (I need it and am thankful.)

 

[UK_fan_41102]

Hello all,
I do hope all are well. My Darling and I have taken some much needed time away and have had a chance to go crabbing a few times. I took off work today to go crabbing with My Darling....

We were in Maryland today and had the pier all to ourselves...

Caught only 16. I missed 7 or 8 big ones. (Weren't prepared to cast-line'em but we did.) We ended up going to the cast line and net trick but it worked. They weren't touching the collapsible traps today for some reason. My Darling is happy and that is good enough. She is cleaning the crabs now.

Have a great rest of your evening. Back at it tomorrow but I have Friday off as well as it is my RDO. (I need it and am thankful.)

Looks like someone is going to have a good supper tonight.

 

[_Rooster]

Thanks Rooster. Yes, that’s my folks. If you follow this line long enough you get to my grandfather, Joseph Roy Hedges, and my grandmother, Maude McKibben, in Bracken County, married after his service in WW1. Googling their names produces a very similar genealogy put together by someone who must be a cousin of mine (common great grandfather) but who I never knew.

I found the Causines (Cousins) swimming upstream from my GF using a philosophy attributed to Yogi.

 

[BBUK]

Looks like someone is going to have a good supper tonight.

Ha, we stopped off at Burger King before we got home. My darling will prepare those another day. I will snap some pics. (They were starting to snap at me again as I sit them in the kitchen sink. My Darling fixed that snap.)

My Darling just cut my hair, I showered and am nursing a Yuengling Black and Tan. My Darling is finally...able to care for herself. She is a good one, way better than I deserve. I always tell her I AM the blessed one...cause.... I AM!!!

 

[berniecarbo]

I found the Causines (Cousins) swimming upstream from my GF using a philosophy attributed to Yogi.

Yogi was of course a hall of fame catcher for the yankees he and Joe Garagioli grew up on the same block in St Louis and were good friends. Both were catchers. The cardinals signed Joe to a five hundred dollar bonus. Yogi wanted to sign with the Cards, but insisted on the same bonus as Joe. The Cards refused, so Yogi signed with the Yankees. Joe was more famous for working on the Today show than baseball.imagine adding Yogi to the Card powerhouse Musial led teams of the early and mid forties.

 

[_Rooster]

Yogi was of course a hall of fame catcher for the yankees he and Joe Garagioli grew up on the same block in St Louis and were good friends. Both were catchers. The cardinals signed Joe to a five hundred dollar bonus. Yogi wanted to sign with the Cards, but insisted on the same bonus as Joe. The Cards refused, so Yogi signed with the Yankees. Joe was more famous for working on the Today show than baseball.imagine adding Yogi to the Card powerhouse Musial led teams of the early and mid forties.

Joe Sr & Jr probably still grinning after building the Diamondbacks, dominating baseball and winning the World Series in 2001.