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It occurred to me today that it is the 80th Anniversary of the German invasion of the Soviet Union - Operation Barbarossa. I know there are some other military history buffs on this board.
The scale of the Russo-German war has always fascinated me. The Germans attacked along a front stretching almost 2,000 miles - that's nearly as far as from Maine to the Southern Tip of Florida.
The German Army that launched the initial invasion, with assorted allies like the Romanians and Italians, was 3 million men -- that's more than six times today's active duty US Army. By 1945, the Germans would lose 5.5 million soldiers dead and another four million captured, which ended up being a death sentence for many. The Soviets would lose 10 million soldiers dead and another 25 million civilians.
Before the tide turned, the Germans controlled an area equal to the US from the Atlantic Coast to the Mississippi River. There will never be another conventional war on that scale. Even if two nations could muster armies of that size, before it played out as it did in 41-45, one side or the other would go to nukes, and it'd be a holocaust.
It occurred to me today that it is the 80th Anniversary of the German invasion of the Soviet Union - Operation Barbarossa. I know there are some other military history buffs on this board.
The scale of the Russo-German war has always fascinated me. The Germans attacked along a front stretching almost 2,000 miles - that's nearly as far as from Maine to the Southern Tip of Florida.
The German Army that launched the initial invasion, with assorted allies like the Romanians and Italians, was 3 million men -- that's more than six times today's active duty US Army. By 1945, the Germans would lose 5.5 million soldiers dead and another four million captured, which ended up being a death sentence for many. The Soviets would lose 10 million soldiers dead and another 25 million civilians.
Before the tide turned, the Germans controlled an area equal to the US from the Atlantic Coast to the Mississippi River. There will never be another conventional war on that scale. Even if two nations could muster armies of that size, before it played out as it did in 41-45, one side or the other would go to nukes, and it'd be a holocaust.
Saved. I am at the age where I can eat anything and everything. What have I got to lose
I knew a guy who was in a WW2 POW camp. He said the German guards HATED the Russians. Russians were treated MUCH MUCH worse than Americans.
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Watched Tommy Boy last night, my favorite line from it,
Tommy Boy, Is that for me?
Dad, no son that's for me!!!!!
Watched Tommy Boy last night, my favorite line from it,
Tommy Boy, Is that for me?
Dad, no son that's for me!!!!!
I thought JEEP was going to drop the most popular color of their classic SUV because too many people thought "White Cherokee" referred to Elizabeth Warren...
Oops, my bad...
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I love WWII history.
Germany was cruel. They were unrelentingly cruel!
They killed just for the pleasure of killing. How do you teach people to be that cruel? I don't know, but Hitler taught them to be that. German folks are good and nice, but the indoctrination was total.
I know many German extracted folks that are wonderful people (I am Austrian Jew in part), but how do you "teach" cruelty? The Germans did. It is called fascism. A social program that teaches the "state" is superior and knows all. If you question it we will kill you.
One point that I want to make: my father in law was in the U.S. Navy in WWII. He dropped out of high school after his 17th birthday to join the war. He is one of my heroes. He survived the war and came home scared, really scared, but not by the Germans but by the Japanese.
He did not hate the Germans. He hated the Japanese. The reason is the German U-boat Captains would put up floatation gear after sicking of a ship. The Japanese were far more cruel. They would do ever thing to kill you. In the Navy in WWII the biggest loss of life was to the Japanese Kamikazes. They were total bastards. The only goal that they had was to kill.
He ended up wanting to kill any Japanese that he could meet. It was total hate. He never got to kill a Jap after the war but he really wanted to.
Bert,
Thanks for sharing that background, especially about your father-in-law. You probably are way ahead of me on this, but if not, and you want to hear a fascinating podcast about Japan from the late 19th Century through the end of WW2, I recommend Dan Carlin's Hardcore History: Six part series called Super Nova in the East. The whole six-part series runs about 24 hours or so, but it's a fascinating look at how and why the Japanese people became as cruel and vicious as they were during the war. It's free on my iPhone podcast app that came with the phone...
Heh, our high may reach 82°F today. Very nice. Quite a departure from yesterday's 96°F with heat index reaching 105°F. Crazy heat returns tomorrow.
Re: Operation Barbarossa 80th anniversary: Back during the 80s and 90s, I drank beer with many ex- Wehrmacht troops (mainly soldiers, but also a few sailors and even a former Luftwaffe fighter pilot). My ex sister in-law's father in-law fought at Stalingrad and survived Soviet captivity. He told me he weighed roughly 90 pounds upon release from prison camp. Gent stood over 6-foot tall.
One night, a friend of my former brother in-law named "Bubi" and I discussed his experiences fighting Soviet troops. He grabbed my hand and placed my index finger up against a deep indentation behind his ear. He'd survived a gunshot to his head.
I now really regret not recording their oral histories back then, both those Germans I knew as well as my own family members.
Re: Operation Barbarossa 80th anniversary: Back during the 80s and 90s, I drank beer with many ex- Wehrmacht troops (mainly soldiers, but also a few sailors and even a former Luftwaffe fighter pilot). My ex sister in-law's father in-law fought at Stalingrad and survived Soviet captivity. He told me he weighed roughly 90 pounds upon release from prison camp. Gent stood over 6-foot tall.
One night, a friend of my former brother in-law named "Bubi" and I discussed his experiences fighting Soviet troops. He grabbed my hand and placed my index finger up against a deep indentation behind his ear. He'd survived a gunshot to his head.
I now really regret not recording their oral histories back then, both those Germans I knew as well as my own family members.
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I shouldn't be but people I hold dear are, 39 people. Had a Facebook account since 2004 or so. I know them all.
Oh, God's grace to all of you this day. I hope more blessings follow you tomorrow. God Bless you all...
My wife walked in this afternoon with a bag of fresh picked (this morning) Silver Queen corn. There are few things I like more than a roasting ear, fresh picked and smothered in butter.
Now she is calling me to supper. Y'all take care
Now she is calling me to supper. Y'all take care
It is sad that so many lives were wasted over stupid ideologies. Fascism, Shintoism, and communism came into conflict and neither knew when to quit. Even though the USSR was allied with the U.S. and Western European powers they were the same cut of cloth as the fascist and the Japanese.
Thank God the U.S. was strong enough to whip those three bastard ideologies. They all sucked. Harry Truman figured it all out. We MUST never forget the price paid. My family paid a remarkably high price for World War II.
I had a cousin who was in the 101st Airborne division and helped liberate Dachau. 25 years later (1970) he could not talk about what he saw. Shit like that should never happen. When an old D-Day veteran with 3 purple hearts can’t talk about something it must have been horrible.
How's everyone doing? Haven't posted for a few days....been busy with my oldest son here.
Never got around, although I wanted to, talking to her about the holocaust and other German atrocities during the war.
She was a great person. Always laughing and having a good time....and quite the baker of German pastry and so forth.
Now I'll go back to my company...but I'll lurk some and lay down some 'likes'.
An aunt of mine was German. My uncles met her and got married after the war. He was career Army and was in Germany a number of years (8, 10?) after the war. She used to talk some of the rise and fall of Hitler. Said that before the war the German people loved him. Things were so bad for so long after WWI that when he came around he not only turned around the economy but built up the German people's self esteem, etc.
Never got around, although I wanted to, talking to her about the holocaust and other German atrocities during the war.
She was a great person. Always laughing and having a good time....and quite the baker of German pastry and so forth.
Now I'll go back to my company...but I'll lurk some and lay down some 'likes'.
German folks are wonderful. How did Hitler corrupt a large country?
That is the question.
Korean people have a very high hatred toward the Japanese as well.
This country has decent good-meaning people as well Sir but where we are headed is in itself scary. It never had to be...
A Glen Campbell and Johnny Cash medley.... Oh where has the talent gone...
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I also love WWII history Bert. One of my favorite stories is about Operation Titanic. The Allies were dropping Oscars/Rupert dummies on the Germans, making them think the D-Day invasion was elsewhere. Imagine the shock on Germans faces when they realized the truth.
I thought I would share my favorite dessert recipe with everyone:
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| 2 (8 oz.) pkgs. Philadelphia cream cheese 2 c. graham cracker crumbs 1/3 c. confectioners sugar 1/2 stick butter 1 can Eagle Brand milk 1 lg. can crushed pineapple, drained 4 bananas 1 lg. container Cool Whip 1/2 c. cherries 1/2 c. chopped nuts Melt butter; add sugar, blend with graham cracker crumbs. Put in a 13x9 pan for crust. Blend cream cheese, and milk until thick. Pour over cracker crumbs. Slice bananas and spread over filling. Spread pineapple over bananas. Spread Cool Whip. Sprinkle nuts and cherries on top. Refrigerate before serving. NOTE: Strawberries can be added if desired; also filling can be alternated between fruit layers. |
That's a question many have asked for over 75 years. Simple answer is Hitler was a helluva con man who arrived at the right time and place in history. German people are industrious and disciplined. Hitler realized he could use his oratory skills for manipulative purposes.
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Good morning from ATX. Currently 78°F and mostly cloudy. Clearing later today bringing a 95°F high. Heat dome setting in, but moving out this weekend. Chance for more rain next week with cooler than average weather.
Happy Hump Day.
Wishing happiness and health for all our fellow D-League members.
Happy Hump Day.
Wishing happiness and health for all our fellow D-League members.
Good morning D-League. It's currently a cool 48° here in Eastern Kentucky. This afternoon will bring mostly sunny skies and a high of 77°.
Everyone stay safe on this hump day.
Everyone stay safe on this hump day.
Good morning D League
Strong cup of coffee and Jeremiah 19 and 20 to start the day.
Later this morning I am headed to Anna Maria Island for a few days and will meet up with family. I always enjoy Anna Maria, they have one of the nicer beaches on the Gulf Coast. The weather should be similar to ours with temperatures at 72° and a nice breeze. I expect the high in the mid 80's with some afternoon showers. They come and go real fast.
I trust all have a nice day and are doing well.
Strong cup of coffee and Jeremiah 19 and 20 to start the day.
Later this morning I am headed to Anna Maria Island for a few days and will meet up with family. I always enjoy Anna Maria, they have one of the nicer beaches on the Gulf Coast. The weather should be similar to ours with temperatures at 72° and a nice breeze. I expect the high in the mid 80's with some afternoon showers. They come and go real fast.
I trust all have a nice day and are doing well.
Morning D, I also read 19&20 with a good cup of coffee!!!
It is 51 here in the Berg this morning!!!! Could take a whole summer like this!!!
It is 51 here in the Berg this morning!!!! Could take a whole summer like this!!!
I was wrong BBUK, I can see it. I clicked on it and watched it. I just figured if I had to log in I couldn't.
I showed this to Mrs. M, she started reading it and said I like it already and we will be making it!!!!!!
Morning Legionnaires!
Had three games (softball) last night and did not get home until about 11:15. We won 2 and lost the last one by 2. Was down by 16 early and came back and had a chance to win it with 2 on 2 outs and a power hitter up at the plate. POP UP! Got down early with the other pitcher so, in the third we switched with me on the mound and even though it is slow pitch, a different delivery and style (I spin the ball a lot) can help keep batters from getting their normal hits. It worked but, that mountain was a little to high too climb in the end.
Was going to go fishing this morning but, too tired and too sore to move around that much. Only got up because wife is up preparing for work. Will take a nap after she leaves.
Pecan Sandies...Dang it Austin! I was just talking about eating better in another thread. 😣
When I was growing we studied World History and of course American history and I asked myself that question many times. How could he kill 6 million Jews without a total rebellion in his country. Why did the Jews get on railroad cars without a fight to the death? I would say it would never happen to me or my people.
Then as I grew older I see all of the changes in our society. If you point them out to people, most will laugh. If we learn one thing from COVID it should be the vast majority of the American people will obey their government. If the government says stay home from work or school. People will. There is a reason schools do not teach history anymore. There is a reason a simple cry of racism can change entire communities and states. It is a word that can manipulate most of our population. And it is used every day to manipulate.
The things happening in our country today are the same things that happened in other societies that have been moved to the ash heap and destroyed. Taking down statutes, banning flags, changing flags and using the educational system to promote "social justice". We now have people who are demanding the American flag be changed. We laugh but we also laughed when people talked about same sex marriage. The Founding Fathers are ridiculed as white men who also happen to be racist and of European descent. Evil.
The American culture continues to spiral out of control but we now have a generation who never heard of Hitler and the Holocaust or if they have heard of it, they deny it happened. These people will be the leaders in the future. Without a knowledge of history the mistakes of the past will be repeated. I am old enough to realize that in the future the current American flag will be taken to the county dump. Christians in America will be treated like Jews in Germany. It is coming. I may not live to see it but my grandchildren probably will because it is coming. History repeats and nations come and go. And it happens before you realize it.
Since we're talking WWII history, I can't forget that the USSR did by far the most to blunt the Nazis by absorbing their blows & overwhelmingly degrading their human & military resources. Yes, we kept them supplied but they suffered the huge majority of losses using those supplies.
CSX had its deep sea fishing facility at Boca Grande. It was always a pleasure to go there and kick up you heels why everyone else was trying to catch fish!Good morning D League
Strong cup of coffee and Jeremiah 19 and 20 to start the day.
Later this morning I am headed to Anna Maria Island for a few days and will meet up with family. I always enjoy Anna Maria, they have one of the nicer beaches on the Gulf Coast. The weather should be similar to ours with temperatures at 72° and a nice breeze. I expect the high in the mid 80's with some afternoon showers. They come and go real fast.
I trust all have a nice day and are doing well.
It is a crisp 62.4°F here at the moment with bright sunshine. It was 55° when I got up. That is nice for late June. It is supposed to get to 82° later for the high. It is just refreshing to walk around and enjoy a break in summer temps.
You D-League folks have a great time.
Not to disagree with you, but Stalin threw his men away. Penal troops to clear minefields by forcing them to walk through them. He caused millions of his countrymen to die needlessly and I think the son of a bitch liked it. The Soviet troops were incredibly cruel to the Germans also with total disregard for life.
It was a horrible thing what Hitler and Stalin did; two insane dictators.
General George Patton hated the Soviets and Communism and was totally against FDR getting in bed with them. He spoke out and the first thing you know he was dead. Funny how these things work out.
Both things can be true. Stalin was a psychopath as much as Hitler, and wasted the lives of millions of his troops and citizens.
And it is also true that between 80 and 90 percent of ALL German losses in the war were on the Eastern Front. One example: We think of D-Day as a massive operation, and so it was. But the same month, June 1944, the Soviet Army launched Operation Bagration on the Eastern Front with 2.5 million troops, that ultimately caused far more German dead than Normandy, and had more of an impact on ending the war.
Stalingrad, in late 1942, effectively ended the German chance to win the war and cost the Wehrmacht 600,000 killed and captured. America was barely beginning to fight a relatively small campaign in North Africa by that time (November, 1942.)
Exactly how Communism works...Kind of wondering when that started....(Been a long slow methodical process converting this once great country to Communistic principals.
Oh, God is still in control. God Bless you all and may your days be engulfed in God's love and kept from evil and their traps.
So you are aware, some ARE fighting back... Just need more people to do this same type of thing...
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