Maybe one of those Saudi princes watched Wrestlemania 6 and then called Vince and demanded that Rhodes guy
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Exactly this.
I can’t believe some people buy him as a star. Midcard for life.
Spot on. He’s always overvalued himself.
Using the example above, he can’t work as good as Ziggler or talk as good as the Miz.
I don’t hate the guy, but he’s top star and never will be.
He's midcard with the talent WWE has always had, he's midcard in AEW with all the talent they've brought in within the last year. Now I can buy him as an occasional Dynamite or Rampage main eventer, that last match with Sammy G was outstanding, but, at minimum, Omega, Moxley, Punk, Danielson, Hangman, Cole, Lee, Black > Cody
I've always thought Miz was overrated on the mic. Cody's better.
I agree that Ziggler is a better worker, but let's not forget that Cody's last match in AEW was a 5-star banger with Sammy Guevara. (Side note: Ziggler would do so well in AEW, I'm surprised there hasn't been more speculation about him.)
Cody does overvalue himself, but he convinced Vince to overvalue him, too, so...winning?
I don't consider Lee, Cole, or Black to be better than Cody. He's better on the mic, has better psychology in the ring, and looks better than all of those guys.
He is a mid carder in AEW by design. If it weren't written into the story line, Cody would have already held the world title at this point.
Who are the main eventers in WWE? Lesnar, Reigns, Lashley, Orton, McIntyre, Owens, Rollins, Edge, and AJ Styles? I consider Cody better than 3 or 4 of those guys already.
We’ll see about Vince. I have a feeling he’ll be pushed heavily for about 60 days. He’ll get a couple title shots, lose, and will then be jobbing to Austin Theory or Damian Priest for the next 6 months. Vince is petty. He won’t forget 2017-2020 Cody.
The lisp ruins his promos for me. And don’t get me going on the neck tat.
Will Levis will be a special guest manager at some big OVW show on March 5th.
Sports Illustrated is reporting that Cody Rhodes is set to return to WWE & he could start recording vignettes for his return at the Performance Center as soon as this weekend.
He left AEW due to losing all responsibilities involving booking & is expected to have a different relationship with Vince McMahon this time, and unlike last time, creative differences will be a non-factor.
Meanwhile, Brandi Rhodes is not expected to sign with WWE.
He left AEW due to losing all responsibilities involving booking & is expected to have a different relationship with Vince McMahon this time, and unlike last time, creative differences will be a non-factor.
Meanwhile, Brandi Rhodes is not expected to sign with WWE.
It wasn't the greatest card from a hype and marketability standpoint, but it was a fairly entertaining couple hours. Just about any weekly show was going to be disappointing compared to last week.
"Creative differences will be a non-factor" lol. Vince does dumb shit time to time (or constantly) with basically every person on the roster. What makes Cody think he'll be the exception?? He get a clause in his contract that he can do whatever he wants with his character and his booking without needing Vince's approval?
AEW Revolution should be a loaded card. First three are already announced
All of the below should be in contention. Wonder which ones get pushed to Dynamite/Rampage since there's no way they can fit all on a PPV?
- Six-man ladder match - currently has Keith lee, Wardlow, Dante Martin/Powerhouse Hobbs winner, and three more to be determined
- Punk vs. MJF Dog Collar
- Three-way Tag Title Match - Jurassic Express vs. two TBD teams
All of the below should be in contention. Wonder which ones get pushed to Dynamite/Rampage since there's no way they can fit all on a PPV?
- Hangman vs. Cole for the AEW title - i'm going to say this is a lock
- Baker vs. Rosa for the women's title - and a lock too
- Moxley vs. Danielson - next closest to being a lock but I could see them having this as a PPV-tier main event on Dynamite
- Kingston vs. Jericho - probably going to be some kind of stipulation on this like an I Quit match or no DQ
- Cargill vs. ?? for the TBS title
- Sammy vs. Andrade vs. Darby for the TNT title
- Jay White vs. ?? - - huge addition to the roster that just debuted, have to figure he'll be involved in the PPV in some capacity
- House of Black vs. Death Triangle if Buddy debuts and Fenix is back in time
- Could we also perhaps see the Young Bucks vs. ReDragon, either in the tag title match or just on their own??
Cody: I'm mad that I lost booking duties, I'm leaving!
Also Cody: I'm going to WWE, hello scooter races and spelling bees!
Don't know if Cody was told he would get to do booking for as long as he was at AEW or not, but talent booking themselves is not a healthy policy to have long term. Look at all the dumb shit that happens in WWE because the McMahon's are always booking themselves into shit.
And let's just take a look at what happened with him individually. While he was partially responsible for booking, he theoretically had at least some input into the angle that resulted in him losing to Jericho and disqualifying himself from ever challenging for the AEW title. Who the hell in their right mind books themselves into that?? Not surprising, it turns out the EVPs largely had their booking duties taken away less than two months after that.
And he led what might have been the most lame and inconsequential stable in the company in the Nightmare Family. It only ever had one other premier talent in MJF, and he left the Nightmare Family while Cody was still partially responsible for booking.
And more recently, look at his refusal to become a heel because he wanted to stay babyface. In the process, he might have been the most hated babyface in the entire wrestling industry. He got heat no matter where he went, which is the exact opposite of what you need to be getting as a babyface.
Also Cody: I'm going to WWE, hello scooter races and spelling bees!
Don't know if Cody was told he would get to do booking for as long as he was at AEW or not, but talent booking themselves is not a healthy policy to have long term. Look at all the dumb shit that happens in WWE because the McMahon's are always booking themselves into shit.
And let's just take a look at what happened with him individually. While he was partially responsible for booking, he theoretically had at least some input into the angle that resulted in him losing to Jericho and disqualifying himself from ever challenging for the AEW title. Who the hell in their right mind books themselves into that?? Not surprising, it turns out the EVPs largely had their booking duties taken away less than two months after that.
And he led what might have been the most lame and inconsequential stable in the company in the Nightmare Family. It only ever had one other premier talent in MJF, and he left the Nightmare Family while Cody was still partially responsible for booking.
And more recently, look at his refusal to become a heel because he wanted to stay babyface. In the process, he might have been the most hated babyface in the entire wrestling industry. He got heat no matter where he went, which is the exact opposite of what you need to be getting as a babyface.
Here are some Observer Awards for ya! Voted on by the readers
LOU THESZ/RIC FLAIR AWARD (WRESTLER OF THE YEAR)
1. KENNY OMEGA (629) 3,755
2. Roman Reigns (90) 1,636
3. Shingo Takagi (46) 1,604
4. Bryan Danielson (127) 1,411
5. Utami Hayashishita (134) 1,310
MOST OUTSTANDING WRESTLER
1. SHINGO TAKAGI (366) 2,767
2. Bryan Danielson (319) 2,647
3. Kenny Omega (218) 2,108
4. Will Ospreay (54) 960
5. Syuri (66) 615
TAG TEAM OF THE YEAR
1. YOUNG BUCKS (740) 4,405
2. Penta & Rey Fenix (124) 2,485
3. FTR (111) 1,233
4. Zack Sabre Jr. & Taichi (23) 649
5. Syuri & Giulia (4) ` 283
BEST ON INTERVIEWS
1. MJF (329) 2,641
2. Eddie Kingston (266) 2,479
3. C.M. Punk (247) 2,384
4. Jon Moxley (12) 404
5. Dan Lambert (18) 308
1. ALL ELITE WRESTLING (817) 4,298
2. Stardom (158) 2,070
3. New Japan Pro Wrestling (17) 1,722
4. Game Changer Wrestling (7) 695
5. UFC (42) 645
BEST WEEKLY TV SHOW
1. AEW DYNAMITE (908) 4,716
2. AEW Rampage (35) 2,240
3. New Japan Strong (47) 1,230
4. WWE Smackdown (4) 704
5. Impact Wrestling (2) 305
PRO WRESTLING MATCH OF THE YEAR
1. YOUNG BUCKS VS. PENTA & FENIX 9/5 Chicago (288) 2,126
2. Will Ospreay vs. Shingo Takagi 5/4 Fukuoka (182) 1,539
3. Kenny Omega vs. Bryan Danielson 9/22 New York (103) 1,117
4. Bryan Danielson vs. Adam Page 12/15 Garland, TX (133) 1,093
5. Utami Hayashishita vs. Syuri 6/12 Tokyo (151) 1,088
FEUD OF THE YEAR
1. KENNY OMEGA VS. ADAM PAGE 503
2. Utami Hayashishita vs. Syuri 207
3. MJF vs. Chris Jericho 71
4. Conor McGregor vs. Dustin Poirier 70
5. C.M. Punk vs. Eddie Kingston 55
MOST IMPROVED
1. TAY CONTI 187
2. Dante Martin 150
3. Saya Kamitani 57
4. Jeff Cobb 54
5. Jungle Boy 48
BRYAN DANIELSON AWARD
(BEST TECHNICAL WRESTLER)
1. BRYAN DANIELSON 559
2. Zack Sabre Jr. 380
3. Jonathan Gresham 95
4. Syuri 48
5. Kenny Omega 18
BRUISER BRODY MEMORIAL AWARD (BEST BRAWLER)
1. JON MOXLEY 303
2. Eddie Kingston 284
3. Tomohiro Ishii 243
4. Shingo Takagi 111
5. Minoru Suzuki 76
BEST FLYING WRESTLER
1. REY FENIX 619
2. El Hijo del Vikingo 151
3. Dante Martin 98
4. Will Ospreay 78
5. Nick Jackson 25
MOST OVERRATED
1. EVIL 194
2. Roman Reigns 101
3. Omos 85
4. The Miz 65
5. Keiji Muto 42
MOST UNDERRATED
1. RICOCHET 222
2. Chad Gable 80
3. Mustafa Ali 74
4. Ricky Starks 33
5. Riddle 27
ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
1. JADE CARGILL 290
2. Jack Cartwheel 99
3. Lady C 71
4. Nick Wayne 49
5. Yuki Arai 33
BEST NON-WRESTLER
1. PAUL HEYMAN 369
2. Don Callis 364
3. Dan Lambert 158
4. Taz 140
5. Malcolm Bivens 17
BEST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER
1. EXCALIBUR 431
2. Kevin Kelly 311
3. Tony Schiavone 126
4. Pat McAfee 80
5. Stewart Fulton 73
WORST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER
1. COREY GRAVES 229
2. Michael Cole 193
3. Matt Striker 136
4. Adnan Virk 115
5. Chris Jericho 85
BEST MAJOR WRESTLING SHOW
1. AEW ALL OUT 9/5 CHICAGO 677
2. AEW Full Gear 11/13 Minneapolis 346
3. Stardom Queendom 12/29 Tokyo 49
4. AEW Double or Nothing 5/30 Jacksonville 18
5. CyberFight Festival 6/6 Saitama 17
WORST MAJOR WRESTLING SHOW
1. WWE SURVIVOR SERIES 11/21 BROOKLYN 218
2. WWE Extreme Rules 9/26 Columbus, OH 116
WWE WrestleMania Backlash 5/16 Tampa 116
4. WWE SummerSlam 8/21 Las Vegas 90
5. WWE Hell in a Cell 6/20 Tampa 70
BEST WRESTLING MANEUVER
1. ADAM PAGE BUCKSHOT LARIAT 233
2. Kenny Omega One Winged Angel 225
3. Shingo Takagi Last of the Dragon 64
4. Will Ospreay Stormbreaker 60
5. Will Ospreay Hidden Blade 55
MOST DISGUSTING PROMOTIONAL TACTIC
1. WWE FIRING WRESTLERS DURING A PANDEMIC WHILE SETTING PROFIT RECORDS 517
2. WWE continued relationship with Saudi Arabia 151
3. WWE using releases in storylines 25
WWE handling of COVID 25
5. Triller having Evander Holyfield box 19
WORST TELEVISION SHOW
1. WWE RAW 669
2. WWE NXT 2.0 170
3. Impact Wrestling 25
4. WWE 205 Live 18
5. WWE Smackdown 17
WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR
1. DAMIEN PRIEST VS. THE MIZ 5/16 TAMPA 270
2. Randy Orton vs. The Fiend Bray Wyatt 4/11 Tampa 186
3. Randy Orton vs. Alexa Bliss 5/21 St. Petersburg 87
4. Britt Baker & Rebel vs. Nyla Rose & Vickie Guerrero 6/30 Jacksonville 53
5. Alexa Bliss vs. Shayna Baszler 6/21 Tampa 50
WORST FEUD OF THE YEAR
1. RANDY ORTON VS. THE FIEND & ALEXA BLISS 356
2. Alexa Bliss vs. Shayna Baszler 50
3. Cody Rhodes vs. Anthony Ogogo 38
4. Shane McMahon vs. Braun Strowman 37
5. Becky Lynch vs. Bianca Belair 35
WORST PROMOTION OF THE YEAR
1. WWE 706
2. CMLL 83
3. Ring of Honor 64
4. Impact Wrestling 44
5. NWA 15
BEST BOOKER
1. TONY KHAN 722
2. Rossy Ogawa 232
3. Sean Shelby 37
4. Gedo 33
5. Brett Lauderdale 26
PROMOTER OF THE YEAR
1. TONY KHAN 748
2. Dana White 144
3. Ross Ogawa 76
4. Brett Lauderdale 56
5. Takaaki Kidani 17
BEST GIMMICK
1. ROMAN REIGNS 116
2. Orange Cassidy 106
3. Adam Page 86
4. Malakai Black 85
5. Danhausen 84
WORST GIMMICK
1. ALEXA BLISS 523
2. Nikki ASH 54
3. House of Torture 48
4. Happy Corbin 43
5. The Fiend Bray Wyatt 32
LOU THESZ/RIC FLAIR AWARD (WRESTLER OF THE YEAR)
1. KENNY OMEGA (629) 3,755
2. Roman Reigns (90) 1,636
3. Shingo Takagi (46) 1,604
4. Bryan Danielson (127) 1,411
5. Utami Hayashishita (134) 1,310
MOST OUTSTANDING WRESTLER
1. SHINGO TAKAGI (366) 2,767
2. Bryan Danielson (319) 2,647
3. Kenny Omega (218) 2,108
4. Will Ospreay (54) 960
5. Syuri (66) 615
TAG TEAM OF THE YEAR
1. YOUNG BUCKS (740) 4,405
2. Penta & Rey Fenix (124) 2,485
3. FTR (111) 1,233
4. Zack Sabre Jr. & Taichi (23) 649
5. Syuri & Giulia (4) ` 283
BEST ON INTERVIEWS
1. MJF (329) 2,641
2. Eddie Kingston (266) 2,479
3. C.M. Punk (247) 2,384
4. Jon Moxley (12) 404
5. Dan Lambert (18) 308
1. ALL ELITE WRESTLING (817) 4,298
2. Stardom (158) 2,070
3. New Japan Pro Wrestling (17) 1,722
4. Game Changer Wrestling (7) 695
5. UFC (42) 645
BEST WEEKLY TV SHOW
1. AEW DYNAMITE (908) 4,716
2. AEW Rampage (35) 2,240
3. New Japan Strong (47) 1,230
4. WWE Smackdown (4) 704
5. Impact Wrestling (2) 305
PRO WRESTLING MATCH OF THE YEAR
1. YOUNG BUCKS VS. PENTA & FENIX 9/5 Chicago (288) 2,126
2. Will Ospreay vs. Shingo Takagi 5/4 Fukuoka (182) 1,539
3. Kenny Omega vs. Bryan Danielson 9/22 New York (103) 1,117
4. Bryan Danielson vs. Adam Page 12/15 Garland, TX (133) 1,093
5. Utami Hayashishita vs. Syuri 6/12 Tokyo (151) 1,088
FEUD OF THE YEAR
1. KENNY OMEGA VS. ADAM PAGE 503
2. Utami Hayashishita vs. Syuri 207
3. MJF vs. Chris Jericho 71
4. Conor McGregor vs. Dustin Poirier 70
5. C.M. Punk vs. Eddie Kingston 55
MOST IMPROVED
1. TAY CONTI 187
2. Dante Martin 150
3. Saya Kamitani 57
4. Jeff Cobb 54
5. Jungle Boy 48
BRYAN DANIELSON AWARD
(BEST TECHNICAL WRESTLER)
1. BRYAN DANIELSON 559
2. Zack Sabre Jr. 380
3. Jonathan Gresham 95
4. Syuri 48
5. Kenny Omega 18
BRUISER BRODY MEMORIAL AWARD (BEST BRAWLER)
1. JON MOXLEY 303
2. Eddie Kingston 284
3. Tomohiro Ishii 243
4. Shingo Takagi 111
5. Minoru Suzuki 76
BEST FLYING WRESTLER
1. REY FENIX 619
2. El Hijo del Vikingo 151
3. Dante Martin 98
4. Will Ospreay 78
5. Nick Jackson 25
MOST OVERRATED
1. EVIL 194
2. Roman Reigns 101
3. Omos 85
4. The Miz 65
5. Keiji Muto 42
MOST UNDERRATED
1. RICOCHET 222
2. Chad Gable 80
3. Mustafa Ali 74
4. Ricky Starks 33
5. Riddle 27
ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
1. JADE CARGILL 290
2. Jack Cartwheel 99
3. Lady C 71
4. Nick Wayne 49
5. Yuki Arai 33
BEST NON-WRESTLER
1. PAUL HEYMAN 369
2. Don Callis 364
3. Dan Lambert 158
4. Taz 140
5. Malcolm Bivens 17
BEST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER
1. EXCALIBUR 431
2. Kevin Kelly 311
3. Tony Schiavone 126
4. Pat McAfee 80
5. Stewart Fulton 73
WORST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER
1. COREY GRAVES 229
2. Michael Cole 193
3. Matt Striker 136
4. Adnan Virk 115
5. Chris Jericho 85
BEST MAJOR WRESTLING SHOW
1. AEW ALL OUT 9/5 CHICAGO 677
2. AEW Full Gear 11/13 Minneapolis 346
3. Stardom Queendom 12/29 Tokyo 49
4. AEW Double or Nothing 5/30 Jacksonville 18
5. CyberFight Festival 6/6 Saitama 17
WORST MAJOR WRESTLING SHOW
1. WWE SURVIVOR SERIES 11/21 BROOKLYN 218
2. WWE Extreme Rules 9/26 Columbus, OH 116
WWE WrestleMania Backlash 5/16 Tampa 116
4. WWE SummerSlam 8/21 Las Vegas 90
5. WWE Hell in a Cell 6/20 Tampa 70
BEST WRESTLING MANEUVER
1. ADAM PAGE BUCKSHOT LARIAT 233
2. Kenny Omega One Winged Angel 225
3. Shingo Takagi Last of the Dragon 64
4. Will Ospreay Stormbreaker 60
5. Will Ospreay Hidden Blade 55
MOST DISGUSTING PROMOTIONAL TACTIC
1. WWE FIRING WRESTLERS DURING A PANDEMIC WHILE SETTING PROFIT RECORDS 517
2. WWE continued relationship with Saudi Arabia 151
3. WWE using releases in storylines 25
WWE handling of COVID 25
5. Triller having Evander Holyfield box 19
WORST TELEVISION SHOW
1. WWE RAW 669
2. WWE NXT 2.0 170
3. Impact Wrestling 25
4. WWE 205 Live 18
5. WWE Smackdown 17
WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR
1. DAMIEN PRIEST VS. THE MIZ 5/16 TAMPA 270
2. Randy Orton vs. The Fiend Bray Wyatt 4/11 Tampa 186
3. Randy Orton vs. Alexa Bliss 5/21 St. Petersburg 87
4. Britt Baker & Rebel vs. Nyla Rose & Vickie Guerrero 6/30 Jacksonville 53
5. Alexa Bliss vs. Shayna Baszler 6/21 Tampa 50
WORST FEUD OF THE YEAR
1. RANDY ORTON VS. THE FIEND & ALEXA BLISS 356
2. Alexa Bliss vs. Shayna Baszler 50
3. Cody Rhodes vs. Anthony Ogogo 38
4. Shane McMahon vs. Braun Strowman 37
5. Becky Lynch vs. Bianca Belair 35
WORST PROMOTION OF THE YEAR
1. WWE 706
2. CMLL 83
3. Ring of Honor 64
4. Impact Wrestling 44
5. NWA 15
BEST BOOKER
1. TONY KHAN 722
2. Rossy Ogawa 232
3. Sean Shelby 37
4. Gedo 33
5. Brett Lauderdale 26
PROMOTER OF THE YEAR
1. TONY KHAN 748
2. Dana White 144
3. Ross Ogawa 76
4. Brett Lauderdale 56
5. Takaaki Kidani 17
BEST GIMMICK
1. ROMAN REIGNS 116
2. Orange Cassidy 106
3. Adam Page 86
4. Malakai Black 85
5. Danhausen 84
WORST GIMMICK
1. ALEXA BLISS 523
2. Nikki ASH 54
3. House of Torture 48
4. Happy Corbin 43
5. The Fiend Bray Wyatt 32
It’s ironic. Evps had their power stripped because they wouldn’t put themselves over enough. All they wanted to do early on was lose and build others. That’s got to be a new way to lose booking power.
As one sided as it is toward AES TheExaultedOne must have contributed to the list. 🤣
