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CI Wrestling Thread #56

It's not as bad when employees get stock, but smaller companies are better.
I liked when I worked for a small company. Being small most times means your sacrificing quite a bit when it comes to benefits though. The benefits were so bad it was borderline insulting for them to even offer it.
 
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It's almost as if McMahon thinks the wrestlers owe him something for locking them all down and keeping them from going elsewhere to stifle all competition, and when the competition rose up, he "punished" the wrestlers by releasing them. 99.9% lock that Adam Cole would have NEVER been utilized well by WWE.

Taya Valkyrie has a beef. I'm sure she talked with AEW at the beginning of the year about joining before making the decision to go to the WWE. Do you think AEW is going to listen to her now, and even if they do, do you think AEW will offer anywhere near what they were prepared to offer in January? They really screwed her.

The sheer volume of wrestlers made available by WWE since the pandemic began means AEW really has the pick of the litter, which hurts wrestlers like Bray. A lot of these wrestlers, if they had become available in a more spread-out manner, and not after AEW brought in a mother lode of talent at the last PPV, would no doubt have been picked up by AEW.

Think about it: If you were looking to wrestle (or work in production, or writing, really any position) and had the opportunity to work for WWE or AEW today, who would you choose? Can anyone even make a cogent argument for choosing WWE right now?
The people who aren't talented but look the part (think a guy in the vein of Ryback) would never even be considered for ARW but Vince would sign them in a heartbeat
 
I liked when I worked for a small company. Being small most times means your sacrificing quite a bit when it comes to benefits though. The benefits were so bad it was borderline insulting for them to even offer it.

I feel more appreciated working for Humana than I did working for a small company. I spent 2 years working for a hotel management company that owns around 40 hotels. Our 'health insurance' was literally a book of procedures and how much they would pay. I was literally told that if I needed to go to a doctor that I should call and ask how much they charge to make sure I got my benefits.
 
Oh, no doubt Adam Cole wouldn't have been used well on the main roster as he's a shrimp. He's not tall nor is he strong.

I know people who have worked for both companies. It's not necessarily apples to apples considering the two companies are at different parts of their history. But WWE is ruthless. Bleed you dry and spit you out. My friend had been there for over 20 years but was one of the layoffs earlier this year. He could not have been happier as he was very unhappy and I don't blame him from what was told.

But the more and more AEW grows and if it's successful, it will have its own problems just as everything inevitably does.
As long as AEW is open to guys wrestling basically wherever they want, that's going to mitigate a lot of the issues. Not getting as much push as you want in AEW? Go to GCW, MLW, Impact, PWG, etc. and get it there
 
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I feel more appreciated working for Humana than I did working for a small company. I spent 2 years working for a hotel management company that owns around 40 hotels. Our 'health insurance' was literally a book of procedures and how much they would pay. I was literally told that if I needed to go to a doctor that I should call and ask how much they charge to make sure I got my benefits.
The last small business I worked at offered three days of PTO and telehealth. That was literally it.
 
The last small business I worked at offered three days of PTO and telehealth. That was literally it.
Oh wait forgot one, I could get three free counseling sessions at one local counselor. I knew that counselor so couldn't even see him, and the three free visits were not transferable to another counselor even at the same practice.
 
So I get WWE booking Omos to be a monster (I don’t think he’s been knocked off his feet yet), but it’s getting a bit ridiculous. On Monday he hit that two hand choke slam thing on Riddle (more of a drop, less of a slam.... it doesn’t look great to be honest) and Riddle was out for more than a minute while people argued over who got to pin him.

The move really doesn’t look that powerful and it made Riddle look pretty bad. WWE either needs to give him a better finisher and have the guy squash Big E or give him a legit feud and someone to take him down on coming months.
 
Who wouldn’t want to see the Main event of Wrestlemania involve a blimp?
Speaking of Mania, it's November and there's legitimately no one of value on the main roster for Roman Reigns to face at WrestleMania. Usually you have some idea by Survivor Series which direction you're headed and right now, there's no one on that level and certainly not enough to take the belt off of him.

Not going to do Brock again for the third time at Mania (and I've lost count how many times at PPVs). Rock is out. I've heard Drew McIntyre and I think that sounds awful as their match in 2019 wasn't anything special (I'm just not a McIntyre fan and don't really get it).
 
If the Undertaker had his way, his WrestleMania streak wouldn't have been broken by Brock Lesnar.

Speaking to Joey Hayden of the Dallas Morning News, the Phenom explained why he thinks Roman Reigns should have been the first superstar to defeat him at WWE's biggest show:

"I don’t know that Brock needed that win. Brock was a bona fide superstar at that point. So, I don’t know that he needed it. Roman [Reigns defeating Undertaker at WM33] definitely, that was the right call. I just wish he may have been first. I wish I could have reversed them, you know what I’m saying? If Roman would have been able to do it, I think it would have increased the value."
Lesnar's win over the Undertaker at WrestleMania 30 remains one of the most stunning results in WWE history. "The Streak" had gotten so big by that point that the Dead Man's matches would often be more anticipated than whatever the main event bout was.

Undertaker won each of his first 21 matches on the grandest stage of them all, but Lesnar's pinfall victory in 2014 was such a surprise that one fan's reaction was used for years on social media as shorthand for a stunning result.
 
If the Undertaker had his way, his WrestleMania streak wouldn't have been broken by Brock Lesnar.

Speaking to Joey Hayden of the Dallas Morning News, the Phenom explained why he thinks Roman Reigns should have been the first superstar to defeat him at WWE's biggest show:


Lesnar's win over the Undertaker at WrestleMania 30 remains one of the most stunning results in WWE history. "The Streak" had gotten so big by that point that the Dead Man's matches would often be more anticipated than whatever the main event bout was.

Undertaker won each of his first 21 matches on the grandest stage of them all, but Lesnar's pinfall victory in 2014 was such a surprise that one fan's reaction was used for years on social media as shorthand for a stunning result.
I agree but at that point, Taker was trash. He was so bad at WM33. There was nothing Reigns could do with that.

I was of the thought that Bray Wyatt should have done it in 2015. But given how he was used, would’ve been a waste.
 
Just finished up dynamite and I really enjoyed the Lio Rush + Daunte Martin match. The PAC vs Dax Harwood match was also great. The build up for every full gear match has been nearly perfect. Can’t wait for the cowboy to take the belt off Kenny.
 
Dynamite did 913,000 viewers on Wednesday night and was 3rd in the 18-49 behind the two NBA games.

Don't know if you all saw this but interesting comments from Becky Lynch on a Sports Illustrated podcast.

When asked about the confrontation and her relationship with Flair, Lynch said, "I don't know, man. We don't talk anymore. We don't talk. So, what I'll say is the locker room needs a hero sometimes and sometimes, somebody's got to be a hero. I'm alright being that hero. That's what I'll say on that matter."
When it was brought up that Lynch is slated to wrestle Charlotte Flair at Survivor Series, she was asked if an issue of trust between two performers makes the job more difficult.
Lynch responded:
"Oh, 100%. 100% more difficult. Yeah and that's the thing, when you've got two people that are wanting to work together to make magic, then you make magic. Sometimes when there's hostility, when you can't trust the person, then you never know what's going to happen. You always have to be on guard and we have to it's, it's like a game of chess. You have to be thinking two steps, three steps, four steps ahead. What are they gonna do? How am I gonna handle it if they do this, if they do that, if whatever. So this business is built on trust. It's built on working together and that's, that's, that's the art of it. That's the beauty of it. And if I make you look good, you make me look good. This is, this is what it is. It's an art. It is a beautiful art, an art that I love more than anything. If people don't know how to make that art, then it becomes, it becomes difficult. It becomes tricky and you never really get the full potential, but, but there's intrigue there too, you know, because we never know what was this meant to happen or was that not meant to happen? What's going to go down. So there's interests in both ways. One way. It's, it's the beautiful, pure art of pro-wrestling and the other way, it's a bit of a show. So we'll see what happens."
When asked if things are difficult right now with Flair, Lynch commented, "Yes" and pointed out that they used to be best friends before the conversation drifted elsewhere.
 
I'm pretty sure Hangman has never held an individual title. I think the only titles he has held was the six-man tag team championship and the AEW tag team titles.
 
Dynamite did 913,000 viewers on Wednesday night and was 3rd in the 18-49 behind the two NBA games.

Don't know if you all saw this but interesting comments from Becky Lynch on a Sports Illustrated podcast.

When asked about the confrontation and her relationship with Flair, Lynch said, "I don't know, man. We don't talk anymore. We don't talk. So, what I'll say is the locker room needs a hero sometimes and sometimes, somebody's got to be a hero. I'm alright being that hero. That's what I'll say on that matter."
When it was brought up that Lynch is slated to wrestle Charlotte Flair at Survivor Series, she was asked if an issue of trust between two performers makes the job more difficult.
Lynch responded:

When asked if things are difficult right now with Flair, Lynch commented, "Yes" and pointed out that they used to be best friends before the conversation drifted elsewhere.
Obviously we do not know the reasoning for this. I'm sure it's some type of jealousy. But the rumors of Charlotte being upset about switching the titles didn't make sense to me. I may be misremembering this so someone feel free to correct me but didn't Charlotte take offense to just swapping titles and then perceived that as making her look weak (which makes no sense to me)?
 
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In ROH he had the tv title
I don't think he did. I just looked that up. I know Marty had it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROH_World_Television_Championship

Yeah, just went to his wiki page too.

Championships and accomplishments[edit]​

 
I don't think he did. I just looked that up. I know Marty had it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROH_World_Television_Championship

Yeah, just went to his wiki page too.

Championships and accomplishments[edit]​

Your right - my memory is fuzzy but I think maybe he went against Jeff Cobb for the tv title and lost
 
I'm beginning to think Flair/Lynch is a worked shoot. I mean, that's a softball.

Meanwhile, WWE released a statement saying that Keith Lee's claims of having to pay his own medical bills was "erroneous." WWE very rarely issues a statement challenging things said by a released wrestler, obviously erroneous or not, so this is quite interesting.

Also, interesting observation: People have also noticed something conspicuously absent from Keith Lee's social media: well-wishers among his peers. Every other wrestler, even wrestlers who were reported to have backstage heat like Nia Jax and Karrion Kross, had fellow wrestlers wishing them well, but Keith Lee did not have a one. Even Mia Yim had had many wrestler well-wishers, but not a one directed their good wishes to the both of them.
 
I really don’t want AEW to take Keith Lee. I’m good with KOR for obvious reasons, but no one else. AEW has a shelf full of big guys they can push to be monsters.
 
I'm pretty sure Hangman has never held an individual title. I think the only titles he has held was the six-man tag team championship and the AEW tag team titles.
1-time Carolina Wrestling Federation Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Champion
 
I hate WWE steel cage matches. The idea that you can just open the cage door and walk out to win is so weak. Why not just powerbomb your opponent and walk out? Not only walk out, but the ref even opens the door for you! Just so pointless
 
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