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CI Wrestling Thread #56

I’ve long thought Owens would jump to AEW as soon as he could due to him being close friends with the Bucks. And you know it has to pain Styles seeing all his buddies in AEW having a blast and he’s stuck in wwe.

AEW fans don’t where a talent has been as long as they fit in. 2 years ago when people said that stuff they were talking about people like Heath Slater. People that were never really anything in wwe. Nobody ever thought wwe would be dumb enough to release the people they have. AEW woulda been stupid not to get some of these guys. They’ve only signed a handful of the 100+ wrestlers let go or leaving on their own from wwe. And they are all big name guys or have ties to people in AEW.
I mean sure but AJ prob isn’t as upset b/c he put omega over when he left for wwe and was with young bucks in bullet club - plus AJ admitted he’s at a point in his career where he is putting people over and making them look good - would he want a match with omega in a couple years - sure and will probably happen before AJ fully retires but AJ doesn’t have anything to prove he has pretty much done it all everywhere
 
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Because TK said he was going to build around young talent and not sign a bunch of ex-wwe guys yet outside of omega/bucks/Cody your top tier guys are essentially all ex-wwe guys so another way of saying it where would aew be if wwe didn’t release any of this talent
MJF. Jungle Boy, Darby Allin. Sammy Guevara.

Suck it, WWE fanboi.
 
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I was a big wcw guy, i thought they had a better weekly show during the late 90s... obviously turned over to wwe once the rock and Austin got white hot. I think I remember falling out of favour with wcw when they changed the logo and the set of nitro.I bought vhs tapes of ECW ppvs and enjoyed them but never could find or watch their weekly show. I don't remember seeing batista, cena, or orton on the card in wwe so I was out on wwe before they came.

I tuned in last year when aew debuted on TNT but their talent just wasn't that interesting. now that they've signed punk, BD, and cole i am really interested. these guys legitimize aew a little bit and make for a better show. aew's matches are entertaining, a bit goofy, but entertaining. they are actually giving an effort in their weekly shows unlike a match you would see on raw or smackdown.

What I enjoy the most about aew and what will keep me tuning in are the fans. The crowd involvement in aew is really awesome and they need that to continue. they should consider paying people to sit throughout the stadium to keep that going.

punk may have wanted to wrestle darby allin first but I think that was a mistake. i don't think that really helped darby at all, but I don't care about allin to begin with. aew hasn't done a good job building their own guys, save for hangman, so I am not sure who they could have paired punk up with. they don't really have any heels.

aew is a work in progress, I'm interested, but they have to keep fine tuning. I heard on konan and discos show a week or so ago that aew had a job posting that sound like was fit for bruce Prichard? I wonder what happened to that? they talked about only a few guys who have the experience that could fill that role. Paul heyman, Prichard or jeff jarrett. with conrad thompson having a podcast with double j now, I imagine he's the one that fills the role. seems like conrad and aew have some sort of connection.
 
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Paul wight getting the spot before the main event
Sean spears
Jake hager
Mark henry

Have any of those 4 won a major feud?
lol come on. It was even reported that the Wight match went where it did because they could add time or cut it as short as possible as needed. It was strictly a breather between Punk and Omega matches.
 
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I was a big wcw guy, i thought they had a better weekly show during the late 90s... obviously turned over to wwe once the rock and Austin got white hot. I think I remember falling out of favour with wcw when they changed the logo and the set of nitro.I bought vhs tapes of ECW ppvs and enjoyed them but never could find or watch their weekly show. I don't remember seeing batista, cena, or orton on the card in wwe so I was out on wwe before they came.

I tuned in last year when aew debuted on TNT but their talent just wasn't that interesting. now that they've signed punk, BD, and cole i am really interested. these guys legitimize aew a little bit and make for a better show. aew's matches are entertaining, a bit goofy, but entertaining. they are actually giving an effort in their weekly shows unlike a match you would see on raw or smackdown.

What I enjoy the most about aew and what will keep me tuning in are the fans. The crowd involvement in aew is really awesome and they need that to continue. they should consider paying people to sit throughout the stadium to keep that going.

punk may have wanted to wrestle darby allin first but I think that was a mistake. i don't think that really helped darby at all, but I don't care about allin to begin with. aew hasn't done a good job building their own guys, save for hangman, so I am not sure who they could have paired punk up with. they don't really have any heels.

aew is a work in progress, I'm interested, but they have to keep fine tuning. I heard on konan and discos show a week or so ago that aew had a job posting that sound like was fit for bruce Prichard? I wonder what happened to that? they talked about only a few guys who have the experience that could fill that role. Paul heyman, Prichard or jeff jarrett. with conrad thompson having a podcast with double j now, I imagine he's the one that fills the role. seems like conrad and aew have some sort of connection.
I agree with most of that except for they haven’t done good building their own guys.

Hangman got very little crowd reaction when AEW started. He was the bottom guy in The Elite.

Darby was pretty unknown and is now one of the biggest stars/babyfaces and draws in AEW. Ratings have proven it. His matches always have a ratings spike.

MJF is universally booed and has become one of the top 2-3 heels in all of wrestling and will be AEW champion next year imo. Probably taking the title from Hangman.

Orange Cassidy/Sammy/Jungle Boy are all people who were basically unknowns outside indie fans who have become fan favorites and get the biggest pops each time they appear.

Britt Baker went from ice cold at the beginning of AEW to red hot now.

And just now at All Out, the pop the Lucha Bros got when they won the belts may have been the loudest the crowd got all night. Some that were there say it was the Lucha Bros, others say it was Cole/Danielson.

Those are just the ones off the top of my head. I’m sure I’m missing a couple.
 
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I thought about posting BTE because of these clips. But I think it just shows Cole was always going to AEW as soon as his deal expired. Wwe would have had to offer him something completely insane to keep him.
Like allowing him to keep his social media accounts which seems to have been the deal breaker.
 
Ya I’m not gonna go dig that quote up - not worth the effort but aew today is essentially wcw right before the wcw/nwo so hopefully they don’t screw it up like wcw did - talk about a logjam if they sign Owens that’s taking another spot from someone
Honestly, Punk, Danielson, Cole are worth bringing in. I wouldn’t waste my time with Steen. His best days are behind him
 
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Dynamite Preview for tonight and jealous for anyone going. Sounds like they do stuff for Dark and Elevation before Dynamite and will tape Rampage after.

The Fallout of AEW All Out 2021.
Jon Moxley's Cincy homecoming, facing New Japan's Minoru Suzuki.
Malakai Black vs. Dustin Rhodes.
Ruby Soho's AEW Dynamite debut vs. Jamie Hayter.
Adam Cole, Bryan Danielson and CM Punk scheduled to appear
 
That's a pretty hot take. I don't watch WWE, but I thought New Day were pretty universally well-liked, and were able to take a crappy gimmick and get it over?

I wouldn’t say I hate them, but the gimmick has run its course. The whole act is stale, which will remain that way for the foreseeable future because they still sell merch to children.

I’m glad Big E got to break away.
 
That's a pretty hot take. I don't watch WWE, but I thought New Day were pretty universally well-liked, and were able to take a crappy gimmick and get it over?
I just hate it. The power of positivity… that gives me nothing. Disney tells better stories about positivity. I’m the guy who enjoys the Jericho vs Gage shit. I like good wrestling and blood. Not grown men wearing unicorn horns and throwing pancakes.
 
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PWI Top 10 for 2021:

1) Kenny Omega
2) Roman Reigns
3) Bobby Lashley
4) Drew McIntyre
5) Kota Ibushi
6) Jon Moxley
7) Will Ospreay
8) Finn Balor
9) Shingo Takagi
10) Rich Swann
 
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Formerly lapsed wrestling fan and extremely formerly lapsed visitor of message boards here. Regardless of the channel you watch it's fun times to be a wrestling fan again. We really do have that "Monday Night Wars" kind of vibe in the air.

Hope y'all don't mind me jumping into the conversation.
Welcome - any conversation is welcome here - there’s a vast array of opinions
 
This is definitely a put up or shut up time for AEW

Dixie touts Punk shirt sales, but we know in private, they are probably shocked Punk didn’t bring in booming ratings (I don’t even like AEW, but I thought they’d gotten over 1.5 with Punk. And for those that downplay any ratings, Meltzer and his ilk make sure to upplay any ratings).

if Danielson any company don’t bump it anymore…causal and lapsed fans just don’t care
 
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