Yeah put me in the I don't care group. One is scripted and one isn't. It's like saying you like football but not lingerie football. Enjoy both but don't compare them.
CI Wrestling Thread #56
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I know the fanbases can overlap, but a majority of MMA fans I know don’t like wrestling at all.
I’ve never been that big on MMA, so a pro wrestler’s MMA record is irrelevant to me in the world of pro wrestling.
Morning, few random thoughts
IMO All Out was the best US Show since Wrestlemania 30. A couple of the Wrestle Kingdom shows may have been better, but not by much.
Everything I've seen or heard was that Danielson was supposed to debut at the Grand Slam show in New York. However AEW is worried the plug could get pulled on the NYC shows again even this close to them happening so they went on and did it. They didn't want him debuting in front of 500 people at Daily's Place.
My only criticism is to me it took away from the Cole debut, they should have done that on Dynamite this week maybe.
When it's done right someone gets elevated in a loss and that's what happened with Darby. I could be wrong but I thought Punk asked Tony Khan for Darby to be his first match.
Punk also said he wants to do him and Danielson versus the Bucks, that would work for me.
Thanks I'll hang up and listen.
IMO All Out was the best US Show since Wrestlemania 30. A couple of the Wrestle Kingdom shows may have been better, but not by much.
Everything I've seen or heard was that Danielson was supposed to debut at the Grand Slam show in New York. However AEW is worried the plug could get pulled on the NYC shows again even this close to them happening so they went on and did it. They didn't want him debuting in front of 500 people at Daily's Place.
My only criticism is to me it took away from the Cole debut, they should have done that on Dynamite this week maybe.
When it's done right someone gets elevated in a loss and that's what happened with Darby. I could be wrong but I thought Punk asked Tony Khan for Darby to be his first match.
Punk also said he wants to do him and Danielson versus the Bucks, that would work for me.
Thanks I'll hang up and listen.
Punk requested Darby. He wanted Darby as his first match because he really believes in Darby.
As far as the debuts, I think that was the best way to do it. It builds a story, a story I think that will change AEW forever. This is gonna be some NWO vs WCW level shit I think. I’m good with it. I think the internet is buzzing for all of it
As far as the debuts, I think that was the best way to do it. It builds a story, a story I think that will change AEW forever. This is gonna be some NWO vs WCW level shit I think. I’m good with it. I think the internet is buzzing for all of it
No, Orange Cassidy with Where is my Mind is far and away the best.
I feel the exact opposite of Danielson and Coles themes. Bryan’s is maybe the best but i don’t care for Coles. I don’t think the version of Danielson’s at All Out had any singing. If they take the singing out it’s much better but that beat is awesome. Not to mention in the background you have chants of “you’re gonna get you fuc*ing head kicked in” like they used to do for him pre wwe.
Word is that TK did attempt to get the rights to "The Final Countdown," but they want like $50K per performance, and it just isn't worth that much. Rumored that Europe doesn't like their own song (or more precisely, they hate that that is the only song of theirs that anyone wants to hear), so they price it out of the market.
I went to see Def Leppard in 1988 at Riverbend, and Europe opened for them. After Europe left the stage, their lead singer had to walk back on stage and ask if we wanted to hear more so they could play their "encore," because no one gave a sh!t and were ready to see Def Leppard.
I went to see Def Leppard in 1988 at Riverbend, and Europe opened for them. After Europe left the stage, their lead singer had to walk back on stage and ask if we wanted to hear more so they could play their "encore," because no one gave a sh!t and were ready to see Def Leppard.
I heard something similar about Randy Savage. A guy on the Observer message board runs indy shows in Washington. They tried to book savage soon after WCW went under. He wanted something like $50,000 to do the show. The guy that runs the show went "are you kidding me?" and his manager just said "he really doesn't want to do it, but he will for $50,000"
Which is where I think Braun Strowman was coming from when he was rumored to be asking 6 figures for appearances.
Speaking of music I like Moxley's old theme better than Wild Thing. I know wanted it as a nod to Onita but it just doesn't do it for me.
So what is Strowman and Bray Wyatt going to do? I haven't saw anyone say anything on here for a few days about them.
sucks for him but Bray Wyatt is going to have to change his look completely to get over anywhere else. I really think if she shows up actually looking like Bray Wyatt people are just going to expect voodoo and crap.
Godfather wouldnt' have gotten over if he came out dressed like Papa Shango.
Godfather wouldnt' have gotten over if he came out dressed like Papa Shango.
Strowman's 90-day non-compete has expired, so he is currently free to wrestle wherever he wants. He announced in the last day or so that he will be participating in the Free the Narrative 2 PPV with EC3 on October 1st. However, Strowman is a thoroughly WWE-made wrestler, he didn't start in the Indies, so I don't know how well he would fit in in AEW.
Wyatt is considered to be a creative mind, and was recently seen in the crowd at an AEW event. However, he still has another ~2 months before his non-compete expires.
Rumor currently is that neither is on AEW's radar, and Impact will most likely be where both of them land (assuming Strowman doesn't just re-sign with WWE).
Ya that’s i don’t care either and apparently neither do the supermarks- for real I’m a little Leary of db saying Vince was holding him back being protective- really hope he doesn’t get hurt - but aew gave big show the second to last match so I guess tk isn’t worried
I’d actually heard the number for Final Countdown was in the six figures PER use. But even if it’s $50k that’s still ridiculous. But yeah I listened to a clip of Meltzer saying they tried to get the song but it was too cost prohibitive for even TK.
I think what he ended up with is great though. Yeah final countdown woulda been cool but Bryan is gonna be over as hell no matter what his theme is.
Strowman and Scott D’amore have both said things that make it sound like he’s a lock for Impact. Also it appears Strowman’s new name will be “Titan”.
No idea on Bray, I’d probably say impact also. The only thing that makes me pause a tad is TK said the other day that he plans on bringing in 4-6 new wrestlers in the coming months. This was before Ruby/Cole/Danielson. So there’s 1-3 potential people left on his radar. That plus the current Dark Order storyline of the faction infighting and being split makes me think they possibly bring him in as a new leader.
Talking above about Bray needing to change his look, if this picture is real and not photoshopped then he DEFINITELY needs to keep his beard.
No idea on Bray, I’d probably say impact also. The only thing that makes me pause a tad is TK said the other day that he plans on bringing in 4-6 new wrestlers in the coming months. This was before Ruby/Cole/Danielson. So there’s 1-3 potential people left on his radar. That plus the current Dark Order storyline of the faction infighting and being split makes me think they possibly bring him in as a new leader.
Talking above about Bray needing to change his look, if this picture is real and not photoshopped then he DEFINITELY needs to keep his beard.
Nah...Who do you think they modeled the new NXT logo after?
One of the men who ruined wrestling…yeah, enough to keep me from (still) not watching wrestling. Lol
Hangman Page and Kenny Omega have been in a storyline for 2 years lol…..some people really just say anything.
Longtime WWE Star Has Brutally Honest Admission
WWE legend Mick Foley is not happy with the World Wrestling Entertainment Inc. and its failure to attract top talent.
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For real if you told the aew marks 2 years into it they’d sign 20 ex-wwe guys they’d be mad but somehow they justify every signing
Oh geez
WWE Superstar Kevin Owens' contract reportedly expires in January 2022, per Sean Ross Sapp on Fightful Select (h/t Aaron Rift of NoDQ.com).
“We’ve learned from a WWE official that WWE restructured several contracts ahead of the pandemic, and for whatever reason, Kevin Owens’ deal was changed to expire in January 2022," the report stated.
"We were not told of any additional terms of the deal or specifically why it was shortened. We’ll work to find out if any other deals were adjusted.”
As Rift noted, Owens told TVA Sports in May 2018 that he had recently signed a five-year deal with WWE, so the latest report represents a significant change his contract structure.
The latest Owens report drops on the same day that he deleted a tweet that may have alluded to a reunion some of his former stable members who are now in AEW. Marc Middleton of Wrestling Inc. explained.
WWE Superstar Kevin Owens' contract reportedly expires in January 2022, per Sean Ross Sapp on Fightful Select (h/t Aaron Rift of NoDQ.com).
“We’ve learned from a WWE official that WWE restructured several contracts ahead of the pandemic, and for whatever reason, Kevin Owens’ deal was changed to expire in January 2022," the report stated.
"We were not told of any additional terms of the deal or specifically why it was shortened. We’ll work to find out if any other deals were adjusted.”
As Rift noted, Owens told TVA Sports in May 2018 that he had recently signed a five-year deal with WWE, so the latest report represents a significant change his contract structure.
The latest Owens report drops on the same day that he deleted a tweet that may have alluded to a reunion some of his former stable members who are now in AEW. Marc Middleton of Wrestling Inc. explained.
Owens has been with WWE since 2014.
Why are justifications necessary? WWE is the BMOC. Did you think AEW would just develop indy talent and bring no one in? They have developed their own talent, and they have been successful, but they can bring in extremely recognizable and talented wrestlers who are and advance their federation.
Because TK said he was going to build around young talent and not sign a bunch of ex-wwe guys yet outside of omega/bucks/Cody your top tier guys are essentially all ex-wwe guys so another way of saying it where would aew be if wwe didn’t release any of this talent
You must have some notification when I post b/c within an hour you always reply -like clockwork - all good tho
Ya I’m not gonna go dig that quote up - not worth the effort but aew today is essentially wcw right before the wcw/nwo so hopefully they don’t screw it up like wcw did - talk about a logjam if they sign Owens that’s taking another spot from someone
I’ve long thought Owens would jump to AEW as soon as he could due to him being close friends with the Bucks. And you know it has to pain Styles seeing all his buddies in AEW having a blast and he’s stuck in wwe.
AEW fans don’t where a talent has been as long as they fit in. 2 years ago when people said that stuff they were talking about people like Heath Slater. People that were never really anything in wwe. Nobody ever thought wwe would be dumb enough to release the people they have. AEW woulda been stupid not to get some of these guys. They’ve only signed a handful of the 100+ wrestlers let go or leaving on their own from wwe. And they are all big name guys or have ties to people in AEW.
AEW fans don’t where a talent has been as long as they fit in. 2 years ago when people said that stuff they were talking about people like Heath Slater. People that were never really anything in wwe. Nobody ever thought wwe would be dumb enough to release the people they have. AEW woulda been stupid not to get some of these guys. They’ve only signed a handful of the 100+ wrestlers let go or leaving on their own from wwe. And they are all big name guys or have ties to people in AEW.
Here is the TK from 2 years ago - is he going back on what he said?
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AEW President Tony Khan - "We’re Not Gonna Sign Every Talented Person Out There" - WrestleTalk
AEW CEO and President Tony Khan was a guest on Chris Jericho’s podcast Talk Is Jericho recently, where he shared several interesting comments and opinions on the formation of AEW, […]
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You’re smarter than this. To act like they haven’t built numerous people, several to main event level, is disingenuous.
