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CI Wrestling Thread #56

That's going to always be my biggest problem with AEW. I don't want to devote multiples hours a week on Youtube to keep up with PPV storylines.
Yeah I am hoping that Rampage will eliminate the YouTube stuff because I have never watched any of it and sometimes I am lost at some of the story lines and references made on Dynamite.
 
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I haven’t watched either Dark show in a very long time and it’s made no difference in my ability to keep up. 90% of those matches are just stat padding or breaking in new talent.

BTE was too good not to share this week. The opening is great and Karl Anderson’s sour boy bit is one of the best bits in wrestling imo. Also got a laugh imagining one of the TNT mics picking up Karl on their entrance when he’s talking about having just blown a load right before walking out there. 😂

Forgot to add, Dante Martins stuff looks even more insane from the camera angles here. That spot where he jumps from the floor backwards up in the ring blows my mind. There maybe 5 guys in all of wrestling that can do that. His vertical is nuts.
 
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I don't watch Dark, or Dark Elevation, or BTE, or any blogs, vlogs or podcasts about AEW. I just watch Dynamite, and will likely add Rampage to my viewing schedule. You don't have to watch any of that stuff to follow what's going on.
 
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Breakdown from Friday's Rampage show. I still think it's interesting you never see these for any of the WWE shows, only AEW.

 
I don't watch Dark, or Dark Elevation, or BTE, or any blogs, vlogs or podcasts about AEW. I just watch Dynamite, and will likely add Rampage to my viewing schedule. You don't have to watch any of that stuff to follow what's going on.
Yeah, I don’t watch anything of their Internet stuff and have never felt lost on their stories.

Like Zay said, they do use it to pad people’s win/loss records. Which can be annoying when someone who hasn’t been on tv in forever pops up with a 24-3 record or something.
 
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It's funny to see an unknown wrestler come out on Dynamite with a win-loss record of 12-1 but I have never seen the guy wrestle or even win a match on television.

Also, if any wrestler won on Dark and is scheduled to wrestle the next night on Dynamite, you can almost guarantee they are going to lose.
 
Breakdown from Friday's Rampage show. I still think it's interesting you never see these for any of the WWE shows, only AEW.

I think it’s a case of people just not caring enough to look for the more in depth wwe ratings. It’s been going for decades but AEW is still new and the ratings are interesting.
I would rather go through another heart surgery than watch the Young Bucks on BTE every week.
Your loss. They’re one of the most entertaining things in wrestling every week. BTE is better than dynamite, SD, raw or any wrestling show imo.
 
It's funny to see an unknown wrestler come out on Dynamite with a win-loss record of 12-1 but I have never seen the guy wrestle or even win a match on television.

Also, if any wrestler won on Dark and is scheduled to wrestle the next night on Dynamite, you can almost guarantee they are going to lose.
Yup. Basically give them the win on YT so when they lose on National TV, it’s a padded win. Silly. The Varsity Blondes are the 2nd ranked team… why? Because they get all their wins on dark. I don’t like that at all.
 
Didn't the entirety of the Fuego Del Sol storyline take place on the internet?
Storyline? Fuego del Sol has a record of 1-41 in AEW, mostly in matches on Dark. They brought him in to Rampage and fed him to Miro. You didn't have to know who Fuego del Sol was to know he was "talent enhancement" and was going to get squashed. It may have helped to know who he was and have watched him wrestle before in order to feel good about the contract he was given after the match, but his surprise offense during the match kinda took care of that.
 
Yup. Basically give them the win on YT so when they lose on National TV, it’s a padded win. Silly. The Varsity Blondes are the 2nd ranked team… why? Because they get all their wins on dark. I don’t like that at all.
Agreed, the "we base title opportunities on who has the best record" = padding the record of the guys they want to "elevate" (hence the name of the show?) in squash matches on Dark and Dark Elevation.

Although, I don't recall any wrestlers getting pushed on Dark/Elevation that weren't being pushed on Dynamite, so I don't know any wrestlers unknown to the main roster that would have suddenly shown up with a 12-1 record.
 
Didn't the entirety of the Fuego Del Sol storyline take place on the internet?

Yes. I was totally lost during Rampage as to who that person was and why I should care about him. I have a buddy who’s an AEW super fan, so I asked him. He explained the angle, but said if I didn’t watch the YouTube content I wouldn’t know who it was.
 
I prefer mine. Lol

Big Show and QT

it was dumb like Cornette said. They used to do that angle a lot in the South, but the kid would be young and vulnerable
It has to be much harder to write a storyline for wrestling these days. Just a few short years ago there were lots of things you could do that will now trigger someone. My guess is they don't want people coming down on them over child abuse by using a small child. I mean there are folks losing their minds over Baron Corbin saying he is making fun of homeless and others who are down on their luck.
 
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It has to be much harder to write a storyline for wrestling these days. Just a few short years ago there were lots of things you could do that will now trigger someone. My guess is they don't want people coming down on them over child abuse by using a small child. I mean there are folks losing their minds over Baron Corbin saying he is making fun of homeless and others who are down on their luck.

McMahon hasn’t even done one of his favorites in years - a nationalism angle where a white meat American babyface fueds with a dastardly foreign-born heel.

That was always easy, cheap heat.
 
I want them to succeed. I’ve said that since the conception. They will never take over wwe. Those are facts but as an fan of the business, there is too much talent for one company to have the monopoly on everyone. Competition is good for business. I just don’t agree with the AEW model. Those four i mentioned have talent but I don’t think they have what it takes to transform the industry. It’s too hokey with those guys. What AEW does has no rhyme or reason. Things seem forced, and they bounce around from program to program. Cody can work but he is not as good as he thinks. He got bigger than the business. You’d think with his pedigree and past time in the big leagues he would learn some things. His stuff is too forced. Kenny and the Bucks had a few good things in Japan but that stuff doesn’t translate that well in America. It’s great for their current fans but as you see in the ratings, they don’t necessarily grow the product. Sure some shows have bumps in ratings but for the most part no new eyes are on the product. Eventually, that schtick will get watered down over here.

The nWo was possibly the coolest thing in wrestling. It even drew new eyeballs but even then, the proper know how wasn’t backing it and it even petered out. It still gets over for nostalgia but in its day, it got old. WCW got old, and the cream again rose to the top. That’s the trajectory I see for AEW. You can only spend so much on unused talent before you end up in a WCW situation.
The same NWO was also the downfall of an entire company.
 
Speaking of being too sensitive, it appears that Max Caster may have been kicked from AEW for his rap. He’s the one who rapped about the Duke lacrosse scandal and the Olympian with mental issues. People got easily triggered by it, cried a river, and now it seems he’s gone. How stupid.
 
Speaking of being too sensitive, it appears that Max Caster may have been kicked from AEW for his rap. He’s the one who rapped about the Duke lacrosse scandal and the Olympian with mental issues. People got easily triggered by it, cried a river, and now it seems he’s gone. How stupid.
TK was apparently upset with the rap, I assume because he received a lot of blowback about it, which I can understand, hold him off TV a couple of weeks, then go on. However, I heard Max Caster was selling his wrestling gear on ebay, saying he didn't have any use for it any more, so if AEW really cut ties with him, I think that is a gross overreaction.
 
If you let a guy freestyle, you’re going get something that offends someone eventually. It’s more ridiculous that it was taped, reviewed/edited, and still aired with no one questioning it until Twitter blowback.
 
Speaking of being too sensitive, it appears that Max Caster may have been kicked from AEW for his rap. He’s the one who rapped about the Duke lacrosse scandal and the Olympian with mental issues. People got easily triggered by it, cried a river, and now it seems he’s gone. How stupid.
Oh good lord. A bunch of cowards in AEW. If it was so offensive, they could’ve cut it in post, it didn’t

Dixie Gulas already gave a lame statement and that should’ve been fine.
 
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Mark henry and Paul Wight are working more as behind the scenes guys. Mark is recruiting talent. Paul is doing his community work, voice acting, and commentary. Though we’ll probably see Paul wrestle at All out against QT Marshall
Thanks. I haven’t watched in probably a month or so.
I just don’t enjoy it like I used too. Maybe it’s because I’m getting old.
 
Max Caster was great. I really liked him and Bowen together. I thought his raps were basically saying what we all are thinking everyday with all the bullshit going on in the world right now.
 
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Get rid of Max Caster for his rap, but keep Nyla Rose and Sonny Kiss on TV. Ok…. I guess my being offended by that monstrosity doesn’t matter. Having a man wrestle in the women’s division is acceptable, but rapping about a smelly hoochie is too much.
 
I think it’s a case of people just not caring enough to look for the more in depth wwe ratings. It’s been going for decades but AEW is still new and the ratings are interesting.

Your loss. They’re one of the most entertaining things in wrestling every week. BTE is better than dynamite, SD, raw or any wrestling show imo.
Sorry, but I find badly acted comedy skits in wrestling to be stupid. It's not entertaining and I can't understand anyone who says they enjoys this garage.

I can say when I talk to other wrestling fans this is one thing that turns them off from wrestling and from watching AEW. The Bucks are the worst offenders because they take nothing serious, so why should we? I want them off my television.

The WWE is also guilty. Vince wants to release talented wrestlers but still employees these 24/7 title jackoffs and puts them on TV. I guess at least AEW hasn't featured a winking doll yet so they have that going for them.
 
Caster is working everyone. He put his gear on eBay saying he needed the money and probably won’t need this stuff anyone. The gear went unsold. I assume he stopped it early before anyone could buy it. He also unfollowed all AEW personnel and started following and liking wwe and nxt tweets lol. He’s 32 so he’s too old for wwe to sign.
 
Agreed, the "we base title opportunities on who has the best record" = padding the record of the guys they want to "elevate" (hence the name of the show?) in squash matches on Dark and Dark Elevation.

Although, I don't recall any wrestlers getting pushed on Dark/Elevation that weren't being pushed on Dynamite, so I don't know any wrestlers unknown to the main roster that would have suddenly shown up with a 12-1 record.
Can't remember the exact record but I believe it was Leyla Hirsch, who up into recently never won a match on Dynamite.
 
Sorry, but I find badly acted comedy skits in wrestling to be stupid. It's not entertaining and I can't understand anyone who says they enjoys this garage.

I can say when I talk to other wrestling fans this is one thing that turns them off from wrestling and from watching AEW. The Bucks are the worst offenders because they take nothing serious, so why should we? I want them off my television.

The WWE is also guilty. Vince wants to release talented wrestlers but still employees these 24/7 title jackoffs and puts them on TV. I guess at least AEW hasn't featured a winking doll yet so they have that going for them.

I’m in this camp.

I like a lot of stuff AEW does. The Bucks have Xpac heat with me as heels or faces. Just go away. BTE seems like something that’s funny to high school kids who still laugh about jerking off. It’s just not for me and definitely not something I’d seek out on my own.

This does not mean the WWE is without fault. Their product in general is a lame comedy skit and they have a bad habit of booking the same match 4 weeks in row. Raw is still a chore to watch every week. If it wasn’t for DVR I wouldn’t even try.
 
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Get rid of Max Caster for his rap, but keep Nyla Rose and Sonny Kiss on TV. Ok…. I guess my being offended by that monstrosity doesn’t matter. Having a man wrestle in the women’s division is acceptable, but rapping about a smelly hoochie is too much.
Wrestling is changing like the rest of the country. Maybe one day we can look forward to a feud over someone refusing to call his opponent by their preferred pronoun :rolleyes:
 
Get rid of Max Caster for his rap, but keep Nyla Rose and Sonny Kiss on TV. Ok…. I guess my being offended by that monstrosity doesn’t matter. Having a man wrestle in the women’s division is acceptable, but rapping about a smelly hoochie is too much.
Exactly. The gay stuff doesn’t usually bother me. Like with Anthony Bowens, dude is great and I enjoy watching him wrestle. But watching Sonny makes me kinda uncomfortable. It’s just too much. Not to mention he’s awful in the ring.

Nyla hadn’t bothered me until the other day when she made comments on Twitter. And they just prove that white/southern/redneck people are the only ones who seem to be fair game when it comes to trashing them. But anyway, she said Pittsburgh was just West Virginia that wishes it was New York. Then a lot of WV people responded and she said something like ‘I would respond to all of y’all but you hillbillies wouldn’t be able to read it anyway.’ Blew my mind that someone like “her” would say something like that. This was just a week after her girlfriend or whatever went on a rant about how people are awful and she was sick of the shit people say to Nyla.

But none of that blew up though. The sjw Twitter mob was fine with that I guess. But they made sure to screw over poor Max Caster. It’s funny nobody in the arena that night (fans/wrestlers/management/editors) were offended by what Caster said but a couple thousand butthurt sjw’s on Twitter fill their diapers and all of a sudden it’s a huge deal and Caster gets railroaded.
 
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