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CBS: UK winning despite Cal holding back Shep and Dilly

No, it was just a few games ago actually...remember Gonzaga?
We remember...we all remember...that's the game when defending a simple
pick and roll looked like this:

Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, etc, etc, etc, etc.

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The stats don't show that when Sheppard has started, we have lost a majority of those games. They also don't show that Dillingham gets a little loose with the ball and gets sloppy on defense which negates his playing time...
Cal slappies (much like Cal) can’t admit anything.

They will not admit that Wagner doesn’t need to start. When 99% of the world knows it, they still can’t admit it.

It’s lunacy 🤣🤣🤣
 
No, but the writer failed to mention that we still started out slow when Sheppard started or Dilly has to sit a lot because he fouls. Dilly would be on the bench at the 13 minute mark if he started due to fouls...
Ok Rex, omitting facts is not on the up and up, I’ll give it to you. But making up facts is just as bad. You can’t prove your assumption. Maybe, but it’s just conjecture as it is.
 
Anyone who has been around basketball knows it’s a game of runs and momentum. We start games at a disadvantage. The amount of minutes is fine and Cal isn’t holding them back there, but when the minutes come is holding the TEAM back! It’s easy to see if you have eyes.
 
If you are 24-4 or 25-3 this conversation is silly , when you are underperforming as badly as Cal is its a legit topic . Duh' its where we are in America , common sense is dead , its so very tribal even the ones defending Cal are hard core lefties . There I went alllllllll political , suck it .
 
Anyone who has been around basketball knows it’s a game of runs and momentum. We start games at a disadvantage. The amount of minutes is fine and Cal isn’t holding them back there, but when the minutes come is holding the TEAM back! It’s easy to see if you have eyes.
Yes! And playing the right players together makes all the difference in the world versus bad combinations 10 mins a game.
 
Interesting that the writer points out how UK was trailing 7-3 when Reed and Rob subbed in...but then doesn't point out how Miss St immediately went on a 7-0 run to extend their lead to 14-3.
Yeah, that's true, and it is very important to the point he's making.

The best argument against Sheppard starting is found in games he started still being slow starts.

The best argument against Dillingham starting is his foul trouble he's often in and also his turnovers.
 
I get wanting to help get D.J. out of his so-so play. Wouldn't it take pressure off of him to not start? I have to think the starting role was promised and this isn't the first time or season we have seen this type of situation.
I think Wagner is getting back. The halftime 3 he hit was huge and he made the perfect decision on getting Shep the game winner.
 
Great article. The only thing he kind of got wrong is in thinking our two best NBA draft
prospects are our two best players. Reed might be our best but Antonio Reeves might be my
pick with Dilly a clear 3rd best with a significant margin on 4th best. The best lineup includes
all three.
 
They do.

That's why I keep pointing out:

When Reed started vs UNC-Wilmington--we got off to a slow start and lost.
When Reed started vs UT--we got off to a slow start and lost.
When Reed started vs Gonzaga--slow start and lost.

The "If we'd just change the starters" argument hasn't proved true on multiple occasions. You guys keep talking hypotheticals. We have real world proof of what happens.
Since it's such a small sample I'd just like to ask you what were the starting frontcourts in those games
and which players played poorly and which ones played well?

The article pointed out that neither came into the game versus LSU until almost 7 minutes had been played and we were down 10 at the half and lost the game.

But the biggest point the article makes is this : the stats show that the starting lineup that Cal has been using is one of our very worst lineups. So why do it? It's just not smart.
 
Sheppard is 2nd on the team in minutes and Dillingham would be playing more if he didn't foul so much...

Geez...you and some of your agendas that scream that you want to be validated...
dude this will be a never ending thing as long as he is here no matter what happens.
 
Rob made some silly fouls early. Rob made some bad/difficult passes and got pulled. Cal put him in when the game mattered.
Like the Gonzaga game he put them in when it mattered ? Oh wait Dilly sat the pine the final 8 minutes and almost entire 2nd half. Oh wait we lost by 2 ? Oh wait how many out there complain about Reed and Dilly's defense saying that is why we lose. Yep.
 
Like the Gonzaga game he put them in when it mattered ? Oh wait Dilly sat the pine the final 8 minutes and almost entire 2nd half. Oh wait we lost by 2 ? Oh wait how many out there complain about Reed and Dilly's defense saying that is why we lose. Yep.
I think I might agree with you this time but I'm not completely sure because I'm not completely sure what you are saying.
 
Why do people even attempt to justify starting DJ? Every metric indicates this is a poor coaching decision.
Cal is NOT acting in the best interest of UK, fans, or this team. Clearly, these people support Cal over the university and the team. They need to go with Cal when we get rid of his sorry @$$.
You should be more blunt; stop holding back.
 
Strange to read through all the comments and see so many people in support of bringing Reed and Dilly off the bench some so much that they point to a couple games we lost with Reed starting.

We have some strange Kentucky fans who don't want the best players starting.

Not sure what else Reed and Dilly have to show you guys.
 
Just read this. The national media is catching on finally.
"Not starting his two best players and playing them for as many minutes as their young legs can hold for every meaningful game moving forward is just an unnecessary obstacle that might be what stands between a good Kentucky team and a great one."
Reed is 3rd on the team in minutes
 
Hunter Dickinson and K McCullar have started every game Kansas has lost. Does that mean they shouldn’t start? You start your best players, your best lineup and try to get a lead. Then you sub to get other players mins and give your starters a blow. And that is usually when the opponents go to their bench and bring in players who aren’t as good as their starters.
For some reason Cal wants to start a lineup with one guy who is a threat to score (Reeves) and four guys who struggle to make a shot. Must be real hard for opponents to game plan how to defend KY at the start of the games.
You're switching the argument. I'm not claiming we lost because Reed started.

The claim on this board is that: If Cal would just start the right guys, we wouldn't start slow and lose. But, Cal has started Reed multiple times. We've started slow in most of them. We've lost multiple games Reed started in.

I'm NOT claiming Reed starting is the reason we lost. I AM telling you we start slow even with Reed as a starter.
 
Nope. You're just being too Reed-centric in your analysis to put it together. I'll give you a hint, the problem is, in fact, who starts . . .
It's not.

I know you think that because ThunderCat98 thinks it, it's true. But when your preferred starter gets the start...we still start slow. Why?

Because the first 5 minutes don't decide the game.

It sounds like you believe DJ playing the 1st 4 or 5 minutes puts us behind. Imagine we start Reed and start off well (even though we haven't when Reed starts). Imagine we bring in DJ at the 4 or 5 minute mark. Now, when DJ comes off the bench, are we going to grow a lead in those minutes or lose it?

Some of you seem to think that DJ playing the 1st 5 minutes is a negative. But DJ playing the next 5 minutes isn't the same negative. That's ridiculous.
 
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