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They miss but it’s rare. It’s not the scouts missing on the talent or lack there of as much as it is players not being willing to conform or put in the work necessary to take the game to the next level.
It comes out now, kool aid drinker hypnotized by Cal. Well you better care about the SEC tourney this year. It may the only way UK gets in is to win it.
So all you basically care about is the 3 weeks in March? Sounds just like Cal.
Who really cares if we have buzz if the result is the same?Need to see it on the court.
Who cares if we lose all time wins, don’t catch UCLA and tie up the UNC series. The draft is 6 months away. Lets go!
Cal has a lot of people believing your last sentence. I thought it was mostly the younger posters but theirs some older ones that will say the same thing. I don’t get it, but they really believe you can’t win recruiting traditionally, like pretty much everyone else does. Lol
Scouts rarely missing? That’s not true at all. It happens with high ranked kids and lower ranked ones all the time.
Tournament championships are great for schools that rarely get one or rarely get anywhere in the big boy tournament. They are small time for the top programs. It’s why we make fun of Kansas for winning the mighty Big 12 all the time and treating it like it matters.
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So you would prefer to not have any excitement and hope for the season.............
Like I said, it has more to do with the players not making it work than it does lack of talent and skill that a scout “missed.”
What do you even mean by buzz?preseason rankings don't mean anything.Honestly our last tourneys have been nothing to brag about.Losing to a weak K state team and Auburn without their best player.
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Did you realize Tubby lost 40 games his last 5 years and Cal has lost 39 games in his past 5 years? I suspect after this season when you compare last 5 years Cal’s will be significantly worse than Tubby’s.
Villanova won in 2016 & 18 and UNC won in 17. Duke won in 15 and KU was the best team by a mile last year.
The blue bloods are still winning titles. But not the way Cal is trying to do it.
The new NBA rules are going to make it even harder on Cal. Not only will he not h
be getting transcendent/generational kids, he won't even be getting the guys he's gotten the last 5 years. I mean, the guy has to stop this and change course, like now, or this program is going to crash hard.
We all make mistakes, even scouts sometimes. It happens. I see your point though just don’t fully agree with it.
Depends on the hire but unless it’s a BCG we will be just fine
Nonsense. Every game matters. Just because Cal doesn't care about them means nothing. I'm curious what he does care about outside of NBA draft talk and NBA contracts.
Sure seemed important when Pitino was here.
Surely you aren’t comparing Smith to Calipari.......Smith left Kentucky and struggled to stay above .500 at every new stop and lower at some including his latest stop, High Point. That’s were they send the great ones to finish their careers.....High Point.
Some fans want to slam Calipari and pretend Smith was better. It’s absurd. If they are honest, they would choose Calipari every single season as their coach if given the opportunity to choose between Smith and Calipari. No responses needed on this one....we all know the truth.
Uh? nobody is saying Tubby>Cal we are saying Cal is identical to Tubby in the last 5 seasons. Hint: that’s not good.
That's not what people are saying at all.People aren't wanting Tubby back but pointing out the fact that Cal's and Tubby's record the last seasons are disturbingly the same.
I will agree every game matters. The only reason we are having this side discussion is someone mentioned Joe B with 8 SEC championships as if it’s a huge accomplishment. We don’t need to hang tournament championship banners. That gives you bragging rights over 15 other schools. I’m looking for bragging rights over over all of college basketball. That’s what we strive for at Kentucky.
If we become IU for the next decade then it is due in large part to what Cal has done (or not done) in the past 5 years. We will be starting from scratch, much like a team just moving to Division 1
Yeah, but think of all the NBA pros UK will have! boy oh boy!
Coach Drew from Baylor would do mighty well on the UK bench.
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Hall had arguably the most difficult job in College Basketball at the time. Following Rupp was no easy task and every move he made was magnified to the utmost. He built a great program his own way. He made a Final Four the year before retirement and did an amazing job with his 1985 team, which was his last. Unless Cal makes some hard changes, which he won't, he'll never get close to another FF while he's here.
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Ever hear of a player we had called Skal? Biggest bust I've seen in a long time.
I was trying to be respectful but I haven’t heard anyone say that scouts don’t miss before. First time I had heard that.
Because cal tried to turn him into a back to the basket player.
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I've been watching UK Basketball for over 56 years and have seen players come and go. I've also seen a lot of so-called "Can't miss prospects" flame out. Every coach at UK has had their share that didn't pan out but the most overrated player, IMO, was Brett Bearup, with Dirk Minnifield a close second. However, Skal has to be right up there with them. I will say that both Bearup and Minnifield played hard but Skal was about as lazy as I've ever seen.
I wish a lot of the younger fans would talk to people that’s been a fan as long as you have. They don’t know or understand the history behind our program. Hell I don’t know as much about it as you lol
You’re a very interesting person on this board. I have a question I want you to answer for me as honestly as you can. If we went another 5 years under Calipari and happened to win 35 games per year and went to 5 final fours but no championships, what would your honest opinion be of Cal’s tenure as a whole? That would mean 9 final fours and one championship. I’m just curious how you would assess that kind of productivity.
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That's because I'm old, lol. Started watching when I was 8 years old. One of my best friends had an uncle that was a writer for the CJ at the time (mid-60's) and he had a lot of the scoop on what was going on behind the scenes with Kentucky Basketball which was really interesting.
To quote Herm Edwards...You play to win the game. Cal was a monster his first 6 years. No question. He was like a Mafia made man.
Now he's like Mr Rogers.
You sound like the husband that just allows his wife to blatantly cheat on him because he feels he could never get anyone any better. This is Kentucky basketball, and Cal has been pretty mediocre/bad for 5 years now by UK standards, including some of the most embarrassing losses in program history, unmatched roster turnover, and dudes quitting on the team left and right. At some point you have to rip the bandaid off. While It may not be time yet, Cal’s best days are looking like they are way behind him.
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Are scouts rating talent based on college potential or NBA potential?
What good is their rating?
I don't really consider Villanova to be a blue blood.
Duke winning in 15 would is pretty much equal to if we won in 15. I feel like this has changed post 15 tho.
And I'm not sure KU was the best team at all last year. I'm not entirely sure they were even the best team in the Big 12 last season. They were one of the best no doubt tho. 2020 you again had teams like Baylor and Gonzaga with projected 1 seeds.
I just think the direction of college basketball is heading for a massive change. If you don't get generational talent because they are all jumping right to the league, than the talent level gap between the bluebloods and the ones fighting for 3 and 4 star guys is closing.
I doubt we see many repeat champions anymore. I think the sport is about to get more competitive and more balanced IMO.
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