Yeah. Name calling is against the rules here. You're acting like a child. Who elected you the board monitor?
Big Z will be at UK.
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Occam's razor principle, aka, the law of economy: The simplest of competing theories is generally the right one. This isn't a case of admitting a graduating high school senior from New Jersey. This is a Croatian FIBA player. Right? It could hardly be more obvious that Cal did not coordinate this unusual admission with the Admissions Office. If he had worked with the Admissions Office, this would not be playing out like it is. Like many other people who post here, you seem to want the blame to fall on the shoulders of the Admissions Office. What is that about? The Admissions Office simply administers standard criteria for enrollment set by the University Senate Committee on Admissions and Academic Standards to comply with state and federal law. If you don't believe me, you can contact Leslie Vincent, the committee chair, directly.
admission.uky.edu/freshman/admission-checklist
universitysenate.uky.edu/committee/admissions-and-academic-standards-committee-saasc
Admissions are not something that gets "fixed". You should know that before you offer this kind of comment on Ivisic's situation, but you don't. There are criteria for admission. The criteria apply to each and every application. Do some schools cheat? Sure, some do. Is that what you want for Kentucky? When schools violate their own criteria to admit athletes, people get in trouble, people get fired, and people even get investigated and prosecuted. That may not matter to you or to those who just want their 7 footer all else be damned. But it matters a lot to the school and to the people who are directly affected.
Ok so as it turns out…….I didn’t even call anyone a name afterall. You said I did, so I just assumed maybe I did because I wanted fo give you the benefit of the doubt. But I did not. I said “don’t be a dick” to someone who was pretty much being a turd and a bully. You sided with the bully. Shocker.
You need to shed that paper thin skin you got if what I said offended you.
I’ll expect my apology now sir.
KENTUCKY WOULD NOT BE "CHEATING" BY ANY STANDARD. It is the university's decision ONLY. The NCAA doesn't care about an English equivalency test. Not one bit. They'd care if he started failing classes and continued to play. That's all.
People are ticked because there's quite a few stories here that have provided anecdotal students they knew who had less qualifications the Z appears to have. I personally know of one that could NEVER have gotten in academically to UK without a wink and a nudge. And yes, they were an athlete. And never would have had a chance to get a college education if it wasn't for their athletic ability. How did they do at UK? Well, not amazing. But they passed and were given a quality education because they were offered resources once they got there to succeed both in the classroom and on the field. THAT'S what colleges are freaking supposed to do. And really what the American education system is supposed to be about.
The other part people are ticked about is do you really think Z, having fluency in 4 languages, falls into the 5-6% of students that aren't UK material?
If he does end up going else where, you don't think that's going to reflect badly on UK? Please.
The pushback has come because several know of people who have gotten in UK with less. His grades are apparently fine. He's not some international criminal mastermind that we know of. What's the major issue?
Because he failed a reading portion of an exam where he wasn't given the accommodations needed?
Ah, the old straw man. You're assuming that issuing a waiver here is immediate cheating and that I WANT UK to be in trouble. Lunacy. I want a kid who's learned to speak English better than some of our denizens, wants to come to UK, and do it the right way to have a chance at success both in school and on the court. UK is acting like it's MIT. And we know that's not the case.
Also, from your other posts, you seem to have info (or insinuate you do), so if that's the case, why not say it?
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LOL you call people names all the time in here. And now you just called him a turd. It's like you're compulsive and can't help it. Want me to do a search on your comments? I don't owe you jack. Grow up and climb down off your high horse.
It’s not a Calipari UK season without at least one “when will Key Contributor X play again” incident:
2010 - Wall/Bledsoe eligibility
2011 - Enes
2012 - Nothing, and look what happened
2013 - Harrow (Nerlens injury too)
2014 - WCS
2015 - Poythress
2016 - Nothing, miraculously
2017 - Diallo
2018 - Vanderbilt
2019 - PJ/NCAA Tournament
2020 - Hagans
2021 - Clarke
2022 - Sharpe
2023- Wheeler/CJ
2024 - Z/Bradshaw/Ugonna
I’m willing to give Cal another chance this year. But it’s truly remarkable how much uncertainty surrounds the team each year. Not always related to injury either.
2010 - Wall/Bledsoe eligibility
2011 - Enes
2012 - Nothing, and look what happened
2013 - Harrow (Nerlens injury too)
2014 - WCS
2015 - Poythress
2016 - Nothing, miraculously
2017 - Diallo
2018 - Vanderbilt
2019 - PJ/NCAA Tournament
2020 - Hagans
2021 - Clarke
2022 - Sharpe
2023- Wheeler/CJ
2024 - Z/Bradshaw/Ugonna
I’m willing to give Cal another chance this year. But it’s truly remarkable how much uncertainty surrounds the team each year. Not always related to injury either.
Crystal's Balls. Hey, in today's world, she can have them.
I think we all need patience and let this play out. There are a lot of things going on that we as fans don't know. I think he will be here at UK. JMO
I never said I have never called anyone a name. I just said I didn't call anyone a name in my initial post, and I didn't. Would you feel more vindicated if I called you a name now?
In the meantime, toughen up and stop crying
I think that as well.
I hope you guys are right, He is probably not the second coming of Lew Alcindor but he would be a nice addition to this team
You would be an 110% correct but most people on here NO WAY believe that. They have an agenda. They invent things in their head. Cal has been putting a mind job on the media all summer long. They know nothing.
Go Cats
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Typical internet warrior, trying to twist laughter into tears. Nice try. Moving on...I never said I have never called anyone a name. I just said I didn't call anyone a name in my initial post, and I didn't. Would you feel more vindicated if I called you a name now?
In the meantime, toughen up and stop crying
Our secondary can be nasty. Wait til some of these Qb's try and test them. Whooo doggie. Good luck with that.
Go do the same for Duke, KU, UNC, etc...it happens everywhere. You only know about it/blame Cal because you follow UK and not the other schools.
SMH ... didn't see Rockfly's post here b/c I blocked the guy over a year ago. Judging by your response, he hasn't changed.
Lol, I was never even talking to you to begin with. But if you're gonna continue to get your feelings hurt then maybe I should just go ahead and let you leave.Typical internet warrior, trying to twist laughter into tears. Nice try. Moving on...
You may go now. Take your L with you.
You seem to be one of those needy types who needs to have the last word.
So go ahead. You need it more than I do.
While we are on the subject of needs, Z needs to be at UK(all other needs listed here are secondary)
Went back and read an article from August 15th and the headline was something like 'Big Z is now officially a Wildcat.' Did him committing make it official or did they do some other things to make that 'official' announcement?
I remember receiving an email from UK announcing his commitment. His locker is also up in JCC. Pilgrim sent a picture out showing locker.
He signed a LOI with UK. The university wouldn't be able to announce it or the coaches couldn't talk about him specifically until he did so.
So after Tuesdays update we are still at he could play at Kentucky but nobody has a clue what is going on
I don't know anything and neither does anyone else here on this board. But if I had to guess, I'd say there's no way that UK fails to get him through the admissions process. Because that is batshit crazy to thing about.
"Yeah we got this kid here who is prolly gonna be a first round pick. He's like 9 feet tall and speaks like 4 languages and whatnot. But he's just gonna have to go somewhere else because the admissions department don't want to grant a waiver because it's not fair to the regular sized non athletic kids who also want a waiver"
Yeah that's crazy to say out loud. My gut tells me they will figure out a way and that if he was gonna look elsewhere then he would have split already. But if I'm wrong, the good news is I've been conditioned to deal with unicorn basketball players. So party on.
"Yeah we got this kid here who is prolly gonna be a first round pick. He's like 9 feet tall and speaks like 4 languages and whatnot. But he's just gonna have to go somewhere else because the admissions department don't want to grant a waiver because it's not fair to the regular sized non athletic kids who also want a waiver"
Yeah that's crazy to say out loud. My gut tells me they will figure out a way and that if he was gonna look elsewhere then he would have split already. But if I'm wrong, the good news is I've been conditioned to deal with unicorn basketball players. So party on.
You're 100% right!
The nonsense at Arkansas last year with Nick Smith would have created an absolute meltdown in our fanbase.
Chris Ledlum up and leaving Tennessee this summer for St. Johns.
Alabama with a scandal every other week this season including a murder.
Kansas players being accused of rape/sexual assault/domestic violence every offseason like clockwork, constant eligibility questions, Adidas/NCAA/FBI trouble, sanctions, etc..
Apparently Caleb Love and RJ Davis hating each other all season last year because someone stole someone else's GF which helped tank their season.
Caleb love then not getting into school at Michigan because their admissions department is as bad as ours.
Flowers leaving Louisville for the NBL at a moment's notice last month.
We could go onnnnn and onnnnn about issues and drama in pretty much every single program across college basketball, including most of the coaches that this board would clamor for if we moved on from Cal.
People on this board are clueless sometimes as to what goes on outside of Lexington.
I think it's more specific to that "One Guy" we always seem to be short of and need that this always happens to.
I do agree that for the most part we've been drama free except for the last couple of years.
Very true, we all do it sometimes, we are so focused on our(Kentuckys) own problems we don’t realize how much other silly stuff schools are dealing with. Now I will freely admit I know nothing and have never claimed to, but this situation just seems like one Kentucky could have easily resolved by now if everybody would communicate and get on the same page
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Based on what Pilgrim said, and a couple other insiders, UK admissions has been asked to get him eligible by mid-October, and the basketball coaches, are tasked with keeping him in the fold, and assuring him, he will be eligible. and play this year.
Not saying it means anything but if you go to UK athletics website, Z is listed on the basketball roster.
That's positive news, but it's still insane it's taken this long.
