You can get shit at GNC that the NCAA considers PED. Case in point - Jeremy Jarmon. But there's no reason to think that's what happened here.
Bad C-rod news ...potentially
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Bowers is a pretty good tight end? LOL
The rumors will continue until morale improves
Probably at the end of the season.
One of the highest character guys to ever play here. and what happened to him again, self reported by UK at that.
If media members are so sure of the outcome to be telling their audiences that CRod won't play at UK again, then whatever investigation must be almost concluded. and the outcome is certain so should be announced very soon.
Or maybe there will be no announcement whatsoever. Other than Chris Rodriguez leaving UK and entering name in NFL supplemental draft in a few weeks. Whatever "it" is won't be revealed to try and protect him.
Or maybe there will be no announcement whatsoever. Other than Chris Rodriguez leaving UK and entering name in NFL supplemental draft in a few weeks. Whatever "it" is won't be revealed to try and protect him.
What it looks like at the moment.
However, if it’s something serious enough to warrant a season long suspension/kicked off the team, it would have to be some criminal conviction that puts CRod face all over the news.
Anything else would be some trivial UK nonsense. PEDs and Money are legal. This is the SEC. We are a legit SEC program with real aspirations.
Heck, I’m still salty over the Vito crap from last year. At least that involved serious criminal accusations…backed up by no evidence. Still, UK should’ve played those guys.
*Ultimately, I trust and agree with WHATEVER Stoops decides. I just think some of this stuff is not up to him.
Announcement will go down like this:
“Chris Rodriguez has the nerve to have a realistic shot at becoming UK’s All Time leading rusher this season while helping Mark Stoops become the Winningest Coach in Kentucky football history and giving UK a reasonable shot at the SEC title; well folks we cant be having that at a basketball school. Thus, C-Rod is out at UK. Sorry, no questions.”
SEC Commissioner
“Chris Rodriguez has the nerve to have a realistic shot at becoming UK’s All Time leading rusher this season while helping Mark Stoops become the Winningest Coach in Kentucky football history and giving UK a reasonable shot at the SEC title; well folks we cant be having that at a basketball school. Thus, C-Rod is out at UK. Sorry, no questions.”
SEC Commissioner
If obtained illegally through mail. Oh hell yes they are
it’s worth noting that the nfl has not held a supplemental draft the last two years. I can’t find any info about this year
MJ insinuated: 1. that it's not as bad as most were speculating, 2. that it was not legal and 3. that it appears to be moral in significance.
To point 2 here, someone else said he insinuated it was not illegal. Is this a typo in your post or was other person wrong? I don’t listen to the show.
You think this is something Stoops has a real say so in? LOL Stoops has a great situation here but if I were him I would leave while the going is good. He could get a job where they support football.
What I read from someone else was that MJ said it wasn't a legal or moral issue. I thought MJ insinuated he wouldn't play this year??
But buying an over the counter diet pill isn't------unless you play football for UK. Ask Jarmon.
Jarmon didn't buy a PED. He bought an over the counter diet pill to lose weight, which MIGHT be used to cover up using PEDs, which was self reported by UK, so one of our players most involved in community projects, etc was labeled as a criminal and kicked off the team. It didn't hurt him that much, he was a very high pick in the supplemental draft. But it certainly hurt UK and it might have hurt his pro career.
Same AD, you expect something different here? Nothing illegal, immoral, or fattening about a diet pill, but remember the old saying, guilty until proven innocent. As it concerns UK football.
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Was this a UK thing or ncaa thing? If ncaa then is there an example of a player elsewhere who was guilty of the same but allowed to continue playing?
It was self reported by UK when most SEC football programs would have tried their hardest to cover it up. Successfully I assume.
GNC and others sale supplements that will cause you to fail tests for PEDs. Maybe Jarmon's was something that was seen as a possible cover up, but some supplements have substances in them that can cause you to fail a test. That's why major sports organizations have lists of what they can't take
No, I said a lot of things aren’t up to him.
But I think they should be. What he’s done here is almost impossible. I think he should be our Nick Saban and get to do whatever he wants. He’s earned that trust, and he would do the right thing for his players and his program.
The notion that we don’t support football is delusional.
I took it as it either illegal (MJ said it was not), then it must be a moral issue, as it was not against the law. I can't quote him, but it was basically, he didn't break the law again, but if you hear what he did you will understand you'll know why he needs to be suspended. If one does something wrong enough to be kicked off the team, but is not against the law, that would, by definition be a moral failing.
You may be right but that isn’t how I remember it. I thought be bought an over the counter supplement of some kind and the supplement had a banned ingredient in it. I remember someone at the press conference saying we tell players not to take any over the counter supplement until we can determine if it contains any banned substance that will cause a failed test. JJ did not take the supplement to UK before taking it and he failed a test. That is my recollection of the events, but it could certainly be flawed. It’s been a while.
Where have you been?
Not any first hand knowledge but from what I read at the time yes it is flawed. And I did follow it very closely at the time. He definitely was one of the highest character players on the team. what he bought was an over the counter diet pill to lose weight, but they decided that it MIGHT be used to cover up PEDs, And UK turned him in, let me know when that happens at Thug U.
Guilty until proven innocent. Already graduated but finished, banned for the whole year.
That’s what I thought too. But it also doesn’t make sense to me. If he didn’t do anything illegal or immoral why is he being suspended. What doesn’t fit either of those categories but would also get you suspended for a year?
I just went back and read a few old articles about the situation. He took a dietary supplement without running it by UK and it had a banned substance in it. He failed a drug test something like 4 days after UK found out he was taking the supplement and was told by UK to stop taking the supplement. The NCAA penalty was a 1 year suspension for the banned substance and the failed test. UK appealed the suspension and the NCAA denied the appeal. That's pretty much how I remembered it.
I think I'm starting to understand the secrecy and CRods dads tweet saying "be careful, be very careful".
NIL has ushered in something I hadn't even thought about. Lawsuits for breach of contract/lost income by players against schools.
What happens when a high profile D1 player like CRod does something so bad the school wants him suspended but the infraction is subjective in nature, not illegal and not specifically addressed by student code of conduct.
Hmm
NIL has ushered in something I hadn't even thought about. Lawsuits for breach of contract/lost income by players against schools.
What happens when a high profile D1 player like CRod does something so bad the school wants him suspended but the infraction is subjective in nature, not illegal and not specifically addressed by student code of conduct.
Hmm
What happens is, the school should look the other way, pursue an SEC East title and then plead ignorance later, while continuing to delay everything in hopes that the NCAA is completely dust by time there are any consequences.
This is the strategy of many other schools in football and basketball, many of who are still getting recruits and winning.
If something like that ends up happening, BBN should March peacefully up to Mitch’s office. We stand by our players. Stoops stands by his players. If they try to suspend him for making money….the notion just makes me angry. And I won’t believe it till I see it.
I'm not sure this is about money either. This situation is just odd.
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