Long road trips are currently easier with gas powered vehicles. Towing isn't even practical at all with EV unless a short distance. They seem to work great in urban environments.
Anyone Here Have An Electric Car?
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For countless reasons we are headed down a very slippery slope that will destroy AMERICA instead of save it.
Load road trips are easier with gas, but not as fun. These EVs are fun on the hwy. their giddy up is jet-like and makes for fun and easy passing. I wouldn’t tow anything behind my model S, nor would I tow anything behind a corvette. That’s what my Tahoe is for
Don’t knock it until you drive it. EVs are faster than anything on the road. I’ve blown away Porsche, vets, hellcats and M3s
Bentley is coming out with the best looking EV I’ve seen and 0-60 in 1.5 seconds
So basically it’s cheaper to get a new car after the 8th year of ownership than repair it - dang
Nope. DIdn't say that at all. Don't even know how you could have come to that conclusion.
Welp they paid 11k for the car and 14k for the battery so ya I mean you can buy a new car for 14k or repair an 8 yr old car - what would you do
How is anyone "forcing 100% change now"? Nothing to do with EVs is stopping anyone from buying an ICE car. Some auto manufactures have said they are moving to EV only at some point in the future, but that is their choice. There isn't any federal or state requirement that all cars have to be EVs by any particular date. The only guidelines right now are for emissions to be reduced by 35% below the 2005 levels by 2030. If you want a gas/diesel vehicle in 2030 they will still be making them. If that is what you need then buy one. It's your money.
What you are saying makes absolutely no sense. They bought a lemon. It being an EV has nothing to do with the fact that they bought a bad car. Do you think this is the first and only time someone bought a used car and only to immediately find out it needed repairs that cost more than the car? If they would have just bought a regular Ford Focus they would be looking at a similar problem. The automatics have a transmission flaw that was built in from the factory. It can never be permanently repaired. You can put on as many brand-new transmissions as you want, and it will ultimately fail and have to be replaced. Cars have problems, but just because one is bad, it doesn't mean the entire industry is.
A used car is a roll of the dice. Sometimes you get a good one, and sometimes you don't. They may have bought an 8-year-old car and had no extra maintenance on it. You never know.
Yes! Tesla claims their cars will/can go 1,000,000 miles. I’ll never find that out personally, because I will trade it before my 8 year warranty runs out
Honda is planning to come out with an EV around 25,000. Please go test drive an EV. And then tell me how fun it was
Hydrogen for EV Charging Stations Will Get More EVs on the Road - Plug Power
Americans are reportedly more interested in buying a Tesla or other electric vehicle than ever before. But there is a problem.
Powering the EV charging stations with zero emission H2 seems like a solution
I'm 71...my days of cars being fast no longer impress me.
Only true if the power doesn’t come from renewable energy. If powered by H2, this video is rendered obsolete
If we use H2, is very possible. Its not a long shot in the same way as it would be for UK to get a commitment from a 5 star DT from Tuscaloosa high.
H2 is readily available, the govment isn’t behind it yet.
I'm hoping that in 2-3 years (or later if my dog Sam lives longer) when I'm ready to trade, there will be a pickup that has a 350-400 mile range. I really don't haul anything heavier than a couple of kayaks and fishing gear, so towing isn't an issue for me. It's 770 miles back to East TN, and without Sam, we'd be more inclined to make an overnight stop and recharge the truck and ourselves. If not, we could take my wife's car, or even fly if we're not visiting for more than a week or two.
If you want an EV, go for it. Just realize that you're harming the environment at a higher rate than if you're driving an IC car.
Well when you have a car that needs parts that aren't manufactured anymore and those parts were never widely manufactured (the specific year, make, and model in question sold less than 2K cars), it's going to cost a lot of money, especially when said part is the most expensive part of a car.
For a car that is only 8 years old, that had sales under 2K, and uses a battery that is no longer manufactured, there is probably a pretty limited used market for that battery.
Yes I could ahve easily sold my Mazda CX-7 for a few thousand and not told the buyer that it needed over $3K in repair work. There were no error lights on, so unless they had it inspected at a shop before buying it they would have never known. Still can't believe the car dealer gave me $3K for it when it was only valued at $5K and they knew they were going to have to put $3K into it to before they could ethically sell it.
From a couple people in the family that would know...when you trade in a car at a dealership . They are giving you 0 for your car.
It gets old. I drove around a Vette for about 6 months. It was sooo much fun......for about a wk. ( I even drove a Model 3) There's a reason why you see 99% of people driving around fast cars who aren't punching the gas every stop light. Shoot, there's a reason I've never seen an EV driving around launch it off the line.
For example, the Vette I drove around. It was so much fun accelerating fast and driving around twisting Tennessee roads. But after a while you start slowing down, you grunt every time you get in/out of the darn thing, you realize you've took a good amount of rubber off the tires, it's got poor visability, you feel every crack in the road, you're paranoid because people stare and walk around it in parking lots, etc.
The "fun" will only last so long........then you're faced with what's left.
The only negative to Tesla ownership is traveling over 300 miles. To me, everything else is a positive, from driving like a BMW, to having the acceleration of a jet, to beat navigation, to never visiting a gas station
I'm very happy that you are happy. I will never tell anyone what they should or should not buy. I just want people to be informed. There are always negatives to go along with the positives. It's up to the individual to decide what is worth the cost. For the vast majority of consumers in the US, the negatives are just too great right now.
I have a full sized truck. While it's the best truck I've ever owned, I'm not oblivious to the pros/cons of having such a vehicle.
That is simply untrue. As long as the EV is being charged by something that isn't being powered by coal it isn't even close. And yes, this also includes mining for minerals for creating batteries. As battery technology improves, and as we see energy production move towards more renewable options this gap will only keep growing.
I think his point is that the vast majority of energy in the US comes from fossil fuels.
Couple this with the mining of minerals and it doesn't present nearly as rosey of a picture as some claim.
Saw a license plate in Tennessee today on a Tesla that said Gas LOL.
Wife and I are looking at a new car within a couple of years and may wait to see this one. Been leaning towards a 3 since I figured our actual usage and it wouldn’t have any issues.
...Remember this guy is for EVS. He's just giving the facts you evidently don't know or want to hear.
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The article I posted already addressed all of this.
His argument is that if you are using coal to generate electricity to power an EV then that coal fired plant is creating so many emissions that it outpaces ICE vehicles. If you eliminate coal from the equation, then EVs produce significantly fewer emissions. The cleaner that energy source becomes, the fewer emissions are involved.
He also talked about the emissions/energy needed for creating batteries, but all of the examples he uses in this video are completely outdated. He states late into his talk that we are trillions of dollars and decades away from seeing improvements in how batteries are made, but he was wrong. The means of battery production are already creating significantly less emission and energy in their production, and that doesn't even take into account new technologies like solid-state batteries that companies like Toyota have announced coming in 2023-24.
His argument is also pretty silly because there simply aren't enough EVs in the world to replace all the ICE cars, and ICE cars are still going to be available for sell for a long time to come. He also never discusses economies of scale, efficiencies, new techniques/manufacturing processes, etc that would significantly lower the energy and emissions required to reduce emissions. He just takes where they were at and applies it forward with no changes or improvements. Meanwhile, he claims that there is lots of room for improvement with the internal combustion engine and with alternative fuels, but he never says how that is supposed to happen. There is no tech on the horizon that is going to solve the cost issues associated with Hydrogen fuel at a global scale. I have no idea what ICE improvements he is talking about, or who is even doing the research.
Flip phones were available a long time after the Smart Phone showed up. You can still buy them today. EV adoption will be very similar. One technology is going to continue to advance, improve and become more popular, while the other is going to be the same, solid piece of tech it always was. Get what works for you.
"As any economist will tell him, the most efficient way to reduce fossil fuel consumption is to raise its price relative to alternatives, encouraging people and businesses to switch to cleaner sources and use less energy altogether” - Bloomberg’s Eduardo Porter
Would such a policy hurt the wealthy or the poor the most?
Would such a policy hurt the wealthy or the poor the most?
Btw, just took the Model S 6 hours over to Waynesville, NC. We stop once for 35 minutes and ate sandwich and walked around mall area. Got back on the road and rocked it. Such a good car, if you don’t mind a 35-45 minute recharge on 400 Mile plus trips
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