I don’t know any college team with 4 good cover guys. Miami 2001 probably is the last. Possibly one of those LSU teams. I think that’s the dilemma it forces. Makes you play man or a simple zone. With the splits, I don’t see how teams can really disguise a zone. There is a lot of ground to make up to get to your spot before the wr does.
Any thoughts on slowing down Vol offense
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Whatever. They barely beat UF in TN.
We are much better than UF on both sides of the football.
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Unfortunately you can't really do much disguise at all. Their spacing is one thing but the pace is the real issue. That part of their game is total gimmick bs. Other coaches use it too because it's allowed, but it's ridiculous.
What’s the gimmick part? Tempo or spacing? Neither is a novel concept. The spacing is the real issue.
Never understood the criticism of using tempo as part of the game somehow being a "gimmick." The playclock is part of the game. You can either go slow and milk it, or go fast to catch a defense off balance. Why is the latter a "gimmick" but not the former? Adapt or die.
I respect your optimism. I wish I could be like that. Guess I’ve been beaten down to a pessimist over the years, yet you’re a fan longer than myself. I hope and pray you’re right but I’ll cover my eyes and probably not watch half the game. Expect the worst, hope for the best and not be disappointed has been my philosophy forever as a UK fan.
Will need to run the ball all we can and score several TD's instead of FG's. Keeping their offense off the field as much as possible to me is the only way. Don't let them beat us over the top for quick scores. Hope they fumble or get intercepted a couple of times while we don't. Make the QB pay when he runs. Have yet to see him get hit very hard when I have watched. Have to rip his legs out, not go high. If we aren't the toughest team on the field, we will not win. That would be the starting point.
Tempo
So is running halfback pass or tons of other trick plays on every down. It's all allowed and part of the game, but still gimmick
The whole world knows that UT fans are the worst of the worst. I see you just joined this board two hours ago and you start by making curt smart ass comments. I assume you’re the same blob that joined and got banned a little earlier in about an hour. Why don’t you sign off, go buy (or better yet steal) some mustard bottles and golf balls and go back to the basement to start putting on your makeup for the game Saturday.
The best way to help Kentucky win this game is just to place million bets over and over on Kentucky to cover the spread. I figured it only take about 40 million to get it down to a three-point game. 🙃
The more you bet ky the lower the spread will go.
Eventually causing the referees to call the game for Kentucky 😂
Ain't nothing old Tennessee and their fast-paste! offense can do about that 🙃🙃🙃
We might still lose but it'll be a close one atleast. somebody finance us a close game dammit!!
The more you bet ky the lower the spread will go.
Eventually causing the referees to call the game for Kentucky 😂
Ain't nothing old Tennessee and their fast-paste! offense can do about that 🙃🙃🙃
We might still lose but it'll be a close one atleast. somebody finance us a close game dammit!!
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We play them on defense much like we did Florida, put a spy on Hooker so hecant kill you on run and yes play a deep zone, most of thier scores against Bama AND LSU were deep balls. Force TN to score from inside the 30 instead of 50 yards away. We have to bog em down near red zone and force enm to kick field goals. It isn't esthetically pleasing but that's the way pro teams play against explosive offenses all the time.
Are you still angry about the forward pass too? 😋
Will UT fans be upset if a foe has a cramp and game play is stopped? It is part of the game and legal to go down when injured, right.
I remember in Richt early years he tried a little pace, guess who whined about it, complained to SEC office and official stood over ball until both teams were ready? If you guessed Fulmer and the vols, you would be correct.
Keep their O on the sidelines and make them
Turn the ball over. ST can not be the drizzling shits again. No mistakes. This is a game that Levis has to stick his chest out. He’s a top 5 pick and he’s taking the back seat to hooker. Dude show up. But also mostly hand it to Crod.
Turn the ball over. ST can not be the drizzling shits again. No mistakes. This is a game that Levis has to stick his chest out. He’s a top 5 pick and he’s taking the back seat to hooker. Dude show up. But also mostly hand it to Crod.
Static alignment calls will doom any defense and blitzing often an accurate QB with a plus Oline/WRs is more likely to cause a route than rushing three. White knows this, which is why he'll try to disguise what's happening. He has alignments that he knows his film shows as three rushing, so he'll send 4 this game from those alignments. Conversely, he has alignments were his film indicates 4-5 are coming and he'll rush three and drop eight. He does that because he hopes Hooker checks into a hot route, thinking and edge is coming and that's when he throws a short slant or out and that's when our OLB jumps the route for an interception. To counter, UT runs tempo, which makes it difficult for the defense to get their play calls in quickly enough and eliminates our ability to substitute and since they practice it daily, they feel the chaos is a net positive for them. They will go balls out in Q1 and White will play a lot of shell zone in order to take away the big play, in the hopes that they make some mistakes or, if they don't make mistakes, then we will force them to eat yardage 4-5 yds at a time. If the latter happens, then that is a win for us because they cannot play uptempo all game or they will be gassed by halftime and we'll roll them in the second half. If you bet, bet UT to cover the Q1 and maybe even the H1 spreads, then flip it to UK for H2 and final score. Regarding special teams, we don't suck. We are plus on the return game, but our long snapper sucks, so it the FG unit that is the problem. As an analytics guy, this bothers me less than most because I believe Stoops, in the past, has been overly conservative on going for 4th downs and our kicking woes has caused him to go on 4th more, which is a net positive given our ability to pick up short yds.
Because the former isnt tryiing to gain an edge simply by trying to go before anybody else is ready which is legal but for a mans game, kind of grade schooly. Gimmicks and deception are alwas part of the game but when it becomes too much of it you take away from the real competivie nature of the game itself which is based on physical competition.
Its kind of like in baseball when the piture quick pitches you before you get settled in the batters box. Sure you can say, well then step in with your bat ready but when you do that all the time it becomes silly and gimmcky and takes away from th game itself. You want to see the pitcher battle the batter. Same in football.
At some point too much gimmickry takes away from the nature of the game and becomes just another summer camp game.
I’m gonna take the other side of your argument. Obviously they are just opinions, so nothing personal. … I respect your way of looking at it, but here is another way.…. And we would not be talking about gimmicks.
if Josh Heupel, were coaching the Cats, we would all be looking at this issue in a different way.
think of how expensive it is to go to college football games now. It is an entertainment product unlike when I was growing up.
Coach Heupels Offense is ridiculous in it’s efficiency… and is beyond entertaining. Mummes Offense was also...
Saban was whining last year about how players are going to get injured more because there are more plays in the game due to this offense …
You and I both know that that is not a FACT… he said that because he does not know how to defend it.
I do not know if there is a defense …
Here is food for thought: if I were a defensive stand out, I would not want to play for the University of Tennessee. Since they generally score in less than two minutes, that defensive player is out on the field so much longer
look at the time of possession when we played Tennessee last year…it’s such a bogus statistic in terms of success.
Don’t get mad, but our offense is boring….. so I know I am going to get burned at the stake, but please try to keep it factual not emotional .
if Josh Heupel, were coaching the Cats, we would all be looking at this issue in a different way.
think of how expensive it is to go to college football games now. It is an entertainment product unlike when I was growing up.
Coach Heupels Offense is ridiculous in it’s efficiency… and is beyond entertaining. Mummes Offense was also...
Saban was whining last year about how players are going to get injured more because there are more plays in the game due to this offense …
You and I both know that that is not a FACT… he said that because he does not know how to defend it.
I do not know if there is a defense …
Here is food for thought: if I were a defensive stand out, I would not want to play for the University of Tennessee. Since they generally score in less than two minutes, that defensive player is out on the field so much longer
look at the time of possession when we played Tennessee last year…it’s such a bogus statistic in terms of success.
Don’t get mad, but our offense is boring….. so I know I am going to get burned at the stake, but please try to keep it factual not emotional .
Seems to me it's just another aspect of the competition and no different from any other part of the "competitive nature of the game itself." The game is not solely physical competition, it's both physical and mental, and the latter part involves both players and coaches being prepared for tempo.
People complained about the Air Raid being gimmicky, but then defenses adapted to it. Adapt and innovate, or be at risk of losing. Also, there's a downside to running a tempo offense all the time; usually teams that do also have poorer defensive stats.
With all due respect, mental is play design, play calling, formations etc. Hurry up is just, "HURRY UP LETS GO BEFORE THEY"RE READY!!!" There's a huge difference between those two thing as far as essence of real competition and the game itself is concerned to me. Play calling, scheming etc are completely within the essence of the game that makes it what it is, hurry up lets go is the opposite and takes away from that. Dont know how else to explain that, its apparent to me.
I think you're right and you could see Stoops and White learned something from last years UT game in how they approached the Ole Miss game. Less substitutions and got guys to see the urgency to line up. Ole Miss likes to use the hurry up like UT does catch you off balance and confused to strike vertical but we covererd that well. Hope we can do something similar Saturday.
With all due respect, the mental aspect also entails being accustomed and prepared to quickly recognize and adjust formations and coverages, etc. in response to the tempo. Tempo is an inextricable element of an overall offensive scheme.
Anyway, I think we just have different ways of looking at things, so cheers and GBB!
The hurry up offense shouldn't be allowed at all times.
There should be a few seconds between each play for the defense to get set.
If not you just trying to cheat. It looks like cheating to me when I see it. Tennessee and Ole Miss man they use this and I can't stand it.
There should be a few seconds between each play for the defense to get set.
If not you just trying to cheat. It looks like cheating to me when I see it. Tennessee and Ole Miss man they use this and I can't stand it.
70 year old Kentucky grad… a lot of UT ties.
I don’t hate them
I used to…. Daughter went to Georgia, two boys went to LSU…. Sister married a UT grad from Knoxville…. aunt from Pineville married a Knoxville guy/ UT grad. But I’m not a UT fan.
It’s ridiculous only because it beats people and works. Teams who run that offense have fans that love it. Teams that don’t.…. Alabama and Kentucky hate it.…. Learn to defend it.
“ Looks like cheating” … Good Lord… please inform us how ? Just because you don’t like it does not mean it is cheating
“The hurry up offense shouldn’t be allowed at all times.” Really? So when should it be allowed ?
Could it be because you are worried that this offense is exciting ? Easy to sell to recruits ? Might kick our ass ?
If what you say is true, then why did you just now join a UK message board.
I am 70+ and a UK grad . You are absolutely the first 70 year old UK grad that doesn't "hate" the Vols since when we were in school the Vols were our all time #1 rival in every sport.
Not buying your smoke screen, but carry on. Enjoy your time on our board. Just stop pretending.
I don't like it because it's trying to catch you off balance. I think every defense should be allowed to set and be ready. Not this rushing to the ball bull crap over and over and over.
Literally running to the damn ball to try to hike it as fast as they can.
Trying to get a cheap play like Aaron Rodgers does when they blow the whistle and he still throws the damn touchdown...
Tell me your thoughts on the Single Wing. You must really hate it. Lol
Yup. Also completely allowed in the rules, just like hurry up no huddle
Moo State ain't Tennessee..... we won't stop them, nobody has. Bottom line, they are the better team, only way we win is if they forfeit......and that ain't happening. They will by far be the best team we've played this season, they might even be better than UGA, I don’t think they are but I don’t know either way. UT looks awfully good.Do what we have been doing all season.
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UK #14 in total defense.
UT loves to throw the football; UK limits passing yds. Just ask Will “Buck” Rogers of Miss. St.
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It's unbelievable the job Heupel has done with that team in a mere two years, he has them firmly in play for a chance at playing for a Natty. Dirty Vawls or not, that is darn impressive, I wish we had their offense
We spied Richardson quite a bit. Stopping his runs was a big part of the defensive strategy, but Florida didn't have the passing game that UT does so I'm not sure they can risk having a player spying on Hooker.
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