Allen for Duke trips another player...no foul called
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What the hell did I just lay my eyes on?Well sure, someone could get hurt, but I don't think it is as wildly dangerous as some are making it out to be. I mean, sticking your foot out is something little kids do. Given the insane physicality of basketball, the boxing out and the jumping and the charging and the blocking... I think people are overblowing the actual danger of it. Totally a cheap shot and deserved at least a foul, but I don't think it deserves some of the anger over the potential for getting hurt that it has generated. I mean... You watch an MMA fight, and nobody gets knocked out by a somewhat wimpy trip... They get teeth knocked out with elbows and the like
To be clear, not excusing it at all; cheap and stupid. Just saying it was not some truly dangerous, dangerous play.
You are defending Grayson? Next time you play pick up I want you to trip the defender and say "hey its part of the game buddy" and see what kind of elbow to the face you take the next time down the court.
Its dirty. Call a spade a spade. I swear you would defend Ron Artest if he played for duke
It happens too often with Dukies. K is behind it.
Yeah, deliberately tripping someone is as pure as the driven snow. That kid is a full blown dirty playing douche and you are effectively the same for defending a player with a pattern of cheap shotting.Stupid thing to do. It was retaliation for the elbow to the ribs from a few seconds before, and the "getting way too close"/bump/step on the foot immediately preceding it (which was retaliation for a steal....) but dumb to do. You've got to keep your cool and be mature.
Don't think it deserves a suspension; an admittedly-deliberate elbow to the face/refs pull a player off didn't get one, so I don't think a little thing like this should. It might be a bit dirty and jerky, but nobody is really going to get hurt from this. That's a bit overblown.
Anyway... Trash away
Makes me appreciate the absolute curb stomping that UK laid on him back in the beginning of this season.
Uhhh... what? I'm a bad ambassador? I should say it was dirty? I literally typed...
"Stupid thing to do"
"dumb to do. You've got to keep your cool and be mature."
"dirty and jerky"
"A sneaky little thing to do"
"it should have been a foul."
What, exactly, did I do wrong? Not call for his beheading?
I know this is a doomed conversation... of all the fan bases in the world who are going to be sensitive to a dirty play from a Duke guy, it will be the fan base who suffered the worst one of all time, at the hands of a guy who hit the biggest shot of all time. So this is might be a somewhat pointless conversation
"Stupid thing to do"
"dumb to do. You've got to keep your cool and be mature."
"dirty and jerky"
"A sneaky little thing to do"
"it should have been a foul."
What, exactly, did I do wrong? Not call for his beheading?
I know this is a doomed conversation... of all the fan bases in the world who are going to be sensitive to a dirty play from a Duke guy, it will be the fan base who suffered the worst one of all time, at the hands of a guy who hit the biggest shot of all time. So this is might be a somewhat pointless conversation
A little tidbit for you, the rest of the college basketball world feels the same way about the bitches who represent your program.Uhhh... what? I'm a bad ambassador? I should say it was dirty? I literally typed...
"Stupid thing to do"
"dumb to do. You've got to keep your cool and be mature."
"dirty and jerky"
"A sneaky little thing to do"
"it should have been a foul."
What, exactly, did I do wrong? Not call for his beheading?
I know this is a doomed conversation... of all the fan bases in the world who are going to be sensitive to a dirty play from a Duke guy, it will be the fan base who suffered the worst one of all time, at the hands of a guy who hit the biggest shot of all time. So this is might be a somewhat pointless conversation
One T Allen received was for cussing out a ref and was not related to his dirty play.
The other had to be reviewed, even though it happened right in front of the ref with an initial no call.
The other had to be reviewed, even though it happened right in front of the ref with an initial no call.
Uhhh... what? I'm a bad ambassador? I should say it was dirty? I literally typed...
"Stupid thing to do"
"dumb to do. You've got to keep your cool and be mature."
"dirty and jerky"
"A sneaky little thing to do"
"it should have been a foul."
What, exactly, did I do wrong? Not call for his beheading?
I know this is a doomed conversation... of all the fan bases in the world who are going to be sensitive to a dirty play from a Duke guy, it will be the fan base who suffered the worst one of all time, at the hands of a guy who hit the biggest shot of all time. So this is might be a somewhat pointless conversation
Trying to diminish it by acting like it's not dangerous.
Would love to see him try to pull that on one of our guards. They are so fiery. Briscoe and Ulis and Murray do not back down.
(Disclaimer: I would not advocate one of them punching him.)
Well no, I don't think it is anyway near as dangerous as, say, a violent elbow to the mouth, and that didn't get a suspension.
It was a kid sticking his foot out. It was stupid and dirty and a cheap shot that should have been called a foul. I do not think that is very dangerous. On a scale of 1-10, I would say it is around a 2, if that. There are a million more dangerous things that happen, even *within* the rules of basketball. Guys get inadvertently elbowed, guys get poked in the eye, guys get tripped up when diving for a ball... hell, a hard legal screen can end a guy's career. I won't even get into my own sport (hockey) in which a trip like that would be laughed at.
It was stupid and dirty and a cheap shot that should have been called a foul. But no, I am not going to say that it was some terribly dangerous thing to do. It wasn't. If you feel that makes me some horrible ambassador and horrible person, okay. I think that is patently ridiculous.
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Watch him play. Watch all of their games. He should be getting 2 techs a game. 2 total? 1 off of physicality?
Laughable.
Go back to the Duke board. It's there for everyone to see. I guess sportcenter is part of the conspiracy now. Lol.
Typical, blame the other guy when your player, again, acts like a total assclown. PLENTY to see here but your coach will refuse to see past his rat whiskers to address it. What's laughable is him throwing his hands up like he didn't do anything. The kids a $&%#*<?!
He is a clone of coach K on the floor, I have always said that a lot of their players were spoiled rotten kids that have never been told no or lost at anything. They have had some good kids too but people are starting to see there are a few like him and Laetner among others who are dirty and just like always they are getting away with it. He will do that to the wrong person and if the refs won't do anything about it, I'm sure they will. Coach K is a good coach, but him and some of his players are Krybabies.
Something is ridiculous here. Considering he's done it at least twice this year, he should be suspended.
Arguing that other things are dangerous does not make intentionally tripping someone less dangerous.
Hockey, played on ice in heavy equipment, is not the same as basketball.
Any dirty, non-basketball play that could hurt another player should be cause for ejection. Multiple occurrences of the same offense? Suspension.
You always know someone is wrong when they use bad behavior to justify bad behavior.
Look over there!!
He's been involved in undercutting players, one instance has already been brought up in the wake game. Go back and watch it.
He should have had multiple technicals during the Lousiville game and only recieved one. Just go back and watch. It's all the proof you need.
This is his second trip in one month.
He's a dirty player. If you can't handle that, then don't. But I'm done explaining it. Go back and watch.
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No respect for a player that resorts to dirty plays like that. No respect for a coach that does nothing about it. If something like this happened at UK I would expect Calipari to suspend the player for at least a game to send a clear message that dirty plays like that are not acceptable at UK.
I'm ok having this discussion about him, I really am. If he continues the crap from the end of the game last night I'm not ok with it and something should be done. But you said he wasn't receiving technicals, which is false. Then you said you knew of five instances where he should have been ejected. It's not ok what Allen did, but I also don't think it's ok to use non-factual hyperbole against him.
Cal wouldn't do anything If this was a UK player because it would be national news and the conference would suspend him. Not to mention, he would be T'd and possibly ejected in the game. Duke fans don't get it because they get spefial treatment most of the time and can't fathom this being anything remolty negative. They've seen much worse and nothing really happened. They're conditioned for this, just look at them in this thread.
Shaquille Goodwin was suspended for a trip agaisnt South Carolina by the AAC. let's see what the ACC does, my guess? Nothing.
Wrong. Suspension, ejection, hell, just call the technical for cryin out loud
He's dirty. I don't need to use hyperbole. .
Back to the Duke board. I'm done talking to you.
No, a UK player would not be ejected for a trip away from the play where nobody was hurt and that no official saw in the last three seconds of a 15 point game. The ref did not see the play and say "Oh, I am not going to call that because this is Duke." There is no pro-Duke/anti-UK conspiracy among refs. Now you are just getting silly.
You are conditioned for this, like I said. Duke gets easy paths In tournaments and special treatment from officials. Duke fans love it, they certainly aren't going to admit it. He should have been ejected. It's his second trip in one month. If not ejected, he should be suspended for at least 2 games. Someone is going to knock his ass out if he keeps this up. He's a dirty POS.
My position is your coach teaches dirty, tripping, undercutting, flopping baskrtball, your players get away with things other teams don't, and somewhere deep down, you know it.
UK is the daddy. We earn every piece we get. You're conditioned.
We've seen it a million times. Had this been UK, they would have gone straight to the monitor. The player was even telling him he was tripped.
Tony Greene also gave Duke that horrendous charge call costing Syracuse the game that year iirc.
They absolutely get special treatment. Especially at home. It's sick.
Douche University strikes NCAA basketball yet again. The hypocrisy of the Douche U/ESPN double standard is something even Hillary Clinton and the mainstream media envy. Allen is going to hurt someone, and ruin their chance at a career. What a selfish dirty punk. The day WILL come (NCAA or NBA?) when someone much bigger and stronger will pay him back for his dirty play. Many will laugh and cheer.
Until then we have to endure Vitale comparing him to a real Hall of Fame NBA player - John Havlicek. Completely nauseating. I remember watching Hondo play - he was clutch, competitive and relentless, but I don't recall him being a dirty player. Allen is certainly no John Havlicek... please stop the dumb talk Dickie V.
Grayson Allen = the bastard child of Coack K and a hammerhead shark.
Until then we have to endure Vitale comparing him to a real Hall of Fame NBA player - John Havlicek. Completely nauseating. I remember watching Hondo play - he was clutch, competitive and relentless, but I don't recall him being a dirty player. Allen is certainly no John Havlicek... please stop the dumb talk Dickie V.
Grayson Allen = the bastard child of Coack K and a hammerhead shark.
.... congrats on taking a position i guess?
I was literally only asking for factual information. That's it.
