We have a guy that is in discussions for the #1 pick that our coach won’t start. Consider that for 1 second and just think how absolutely insane of a human Cal is.
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Dillingham?We have a guy that is in discussions for the #1 pick that our coach won’t start. Consider that for 1 second and just think how absolutely insane of a human Cal is.
What makes you think the staff doesn’t see it? Cal calls the shots.It’s was clear after watching high school highlights Rob was the best player in this recruiting class. I’m really not sure how Cal nor the staff seemed to see it.
You left off plenty of other coaches and recruiting services. He may have turned out to be the best player in the class today but that was far from a certainty based on his HS play. In fact, based on HS play I think it was fairly certain he was the 3rd or 4th best player in this class.It’s was clear after watching high school highlights Rob was the best player in this recruiting class. I’m really not sure how Cal nor the staff seemed to see it.
Marvin Williams played for UNC, was drafted 2nd, and never started a game. This isn't just a Cal thing. Roy Williams (who most on here consider to be one of the best ever) has done it too.
My point is it wasn't unheard of and if Williams went 2nd, he was "better" than the starters since none of them went first. Was Roy insane for not starting him?Would you like to compare those teams any further, or does context not matter?
Your assumption is the recruiting services actually know what they are doing when they have proven many times over they don’t. They never judge a kid by his current talent level rather what they feel their ceiling is which is an abomination of a way to evaluate. The whole damn system sucks.You left off plenty of other coaches and recruiting services. He may have turned out to be the best player in the class today but that was far from a certainty based on his HS play. In fact, based on HS play I think it was fairly certain he was the 3rd or 4th best player in this class.
My point is it wasn't unheard of and if Williams went 2nd, he was "better" than the starters since none of them went first. Was Roy insane for not starting him?
with this fanbase, it wouldn't shock me in the least.What were the results of that year for UNC? Do you feel this would be a topic if we were experiencing different results?
It's safe to say half these "experts" have no clue what they're talking about or looking at. It's about money and clicks. DJ seems like a great kid , but he's been labeled #1 since 7th grade. Dad and grandpa were stars a d one played for Cal so he's a can't miss kid. Trouble is his game has more "basketball" holes in it than a Callander does. One dimensional player player. If he had learned to shoot like Reed or Rob as a kid he'd be a superstar.You left off plenty of other coaches and recruiting services. He may have turned out to be the best player in the class today but that was far from a certainty based on his HS play. In fact, based on HS play I think it was fairly certain he was the 3rd or 4th best player in this class.
Agree. How a HOF coach can't seem to play his best players more mins is mind boggling to me. Even middle school coaches play the best players.Sahvir Wheeler got unlimited run here for a season and a half, then Cal gets gun shy with Rob Dillingham. It’s this shit that has put me over the edge with Cal. Appreciate the 15 years, it’s incredible the talent he’s brought through and the way they’ve been ambassadors for the program. Thanks Cal, you’ve done a great job here overall.
But c’mon, this started when you collared Shai in favor of Quade Green. Since you couldn’t be straightforward from the start and play a future NBA MVP candidate, you waited til it was obvious to everyone but Quade, then had Shai take over later. Ever since that team roles have been a struggle, and that was also where unexplained injuries with foggy timelines began too with Jarred Vanderbilt. Wish someone could find out what the hell happened after the Fox/Monk/Bam team. Cal was trying to win it all with that team, don’t think anyone doubts it. There were no injury games with that team that I can recall. The year before that Derek Willis blew up his ankle and posted the pics of it all black and blue on social media. Played the next game. Now you see a guy hobble off during the game and you think “well, probably won’t be seeing him for a couple weeks”. It’s easy to point at the 2015 loss as the collapse point for Cal. But that ‘17 team freakin had it. It was after that loss where things took a sharp turn.
It's never felt the same. Or had the magic. After 2017.Sahvir Wheeler got unlimited run here for a season and a half, then Cal gets gun shy with Rob Dillingham. It’s this shit that has put me over the edge with Cal. Appreciate the 15 years, it’s incredible the talent he’s brought through and the way they’ve been ambassadors for the program. Thanks Cal, you’ve done a great job here overall.
But c’mon, this started when you collared Shai in favor of Quade Green. Since you couldn’t be straightforward from the start and play a future NBA MVP candidate, you waited til it was obvious to everyone but Quade, then had Shai take over later. Ever since that team roles have been a struggle, and that was also where unexplained injuries with foggy timelines began too with Jarred Vanderbilt. Wish someone could find out what the hell happened after the Fox/Monk/Bam team. Cal was trying to win it all with that team, don’t think anyone doubts it. There were no injury games with that team that I can recall. The year before that Derek Willis blew up his ankle and posted the pics of it all black and blue on social media. Played the next game. Now you see a guy hobble off during the game and you think “well, probably won’t be seeing him for a couple weeks”. It’s easy to point at the 2015 loss as the collapse point for Cal. But that ‘17 team freakin had it. It was after that loss where things took a sharp turn.
It's not mind boggling if you understand Cal. He has promises to recruiting agencies and players families.Agree. How a HOF coach can't seem to play his best players more mins is mind boggling to me. Even middle school coaches play the best players.
Yup Sad really.We have a guy that is in discussions for the #1 pick that our coach won’t start. Consider that for 1 second and just think how absolutely insane of a human Cal is.
The guy starting infront of him was Jawad Williams who was a senior ALL-ACC player that had been one of their best players every year there. He was the better college basketball player that season. And Roy played him over his hot shot freshman to benefit the team.My point is it wasn't unheard of and if Williams went 2nd, he was "better" than the starters since none of them went first. Was Roy insane for not starting him?
Could be about the time Cal realize he’d made his bed with the officials and he would never win another title. After the shit show in 15 and even worse in 17? Maybe.Sahvir Wheeler got unlimited run here for a season and a half, then Cal gets gun shy with Rob Dillingham. It’s this shit that has put me over the edge with Cal. Appreciate the 15 years, it’s incredible the talent he’s brought through and the way they’ve been ambassadors for the program. Thanks Cal, you’ve done a great job here overall.
But c’mon, this started when you collared Shai in favor of Quade Green. Since you couldn’t be straightforward from the start and play a future NBA MVP candidate, you waited til it was obvious to everyone but Quade, then had Shai take over later. Ever since that team roles have been a struggle, and that was also where unexplained injuries with foggy timelines began too with Jarred Vanderbilt. Wish someone could find out what the hell happened after the Fox/Monk/Bam team. Cal was trying to win it all with that team, don’t think anyone doubts it. There were no injury games with that team that I can recall. The year before that Derek Willis blew up his ankle and posted the pics of it all black and blue on social media. Played the next game. Now you see a guy hobble off during the game and you think “well, probably won’t be seeing him for a couple weeks”. It’s easy to point at the 2015 loss as the collapse point for Cal. But that ‘17 team freakin had it. It was after that loss where things took a sharp turn.
I'm happy to see you moving away from the Calipari apologists, @JwUKFan11 .We have a guy that is in discussions for the #1 pick that our coach won’t start. Consider that for 1 second and just think how absolutely insane of a human Cal is.
Marvin Williams played for UNC, was drafted 2nd, and never started a game. This isn't just a Cal thing. Roy Williams (who most on here consider to be one of the best ever) has done it too.
True statement.I’m disgusted by the constant lineup changes and think it’s #1 issue holding this team back from developing any defensive continuity. However, it is fair to point out that Dillingham is the single worst defender at UK under Cal. It’s really really bad and I think the coaches struggle with balancing the offensive impact Vs the defensive shortcomings. (If you watch the replay against LSU it was Dilly’s man cutting from the perimeter to catch the winning lob and he didn’t move. He just ball watched the entire thing. Which is a theme….he plays abhorrent off ball defense)
Because he doesn’t start.What makes you think the staff doesn’t see it? Cal calls the shots.
Then go with what I say because I said it before he hit the campus. And Cal should know more than me.You left off plenty of other coaches and recruiting services. He may have turned out to be the best player in the class today but that was far from a certainty based on his HS play. In fact, based on HS play I think it was fairly certain he was the 3rd or 4th best player in this class.
Um no. This is false. In fact, he may have been 3rd or 4th.It’s was clear after watching high school highlights Rob was the best player in this recruiting class. I’m really not sure how Cal nor the staff seemed to see it.
I’m talking about our class. Not the National class.Um no. This is false. In fact, he may have been 3rd or 4th.
He plays 22 mpg, not 18-20. I agree that’s not enough. But Rob contributes to that with silly fouls, so in 36% (9) of his games he has been limited in minutes due to foul trouble (4-5 fouls). So in other games he plays 24-25 min. Still not enough, but much more than your exaggerated 18-20.This team will go as far as Dilly can take them. At 18 to 20 minutes a game,that isn't far
But c’mon, this started when you collared Shai in favor of Quade Green.
He can’t!He should be playing 35 along with Reed and Reeves. It's the dumbest thing ever.