LOL. So I guess all the guys at ESPN and DraftExpress that are paid to know this stuff are just lying when they have him slotted to be a first round pick? Get a clue and stop posting idiocy.
Zagoria: NBA Exec Says Skal's People Want Him to Jump to NBA
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It's either Skal or Bolden but not both.
Give me Bolden all day long.
We have Gabriel and Willis if we want to pick and pop.
Give me Bolden all day long.
We have Gabriel and Willis if we want to pick and pop.
I don't believe that I read anywhere that in this thread that stated that any/all cbb players could go through the NBA combine and work out for an NBA team before making a decision.....Surely Shal and handlers are that smart....no decision needs to be made until April
Almost heartbreaking to read something like this. I've read anything to make me think that Skal is anything but a fine young man. If it takes 4 years to make him the best basketball player he can be and get him ready for the NBA that's exactly what we should do. That said, if this stuff we're hearing about his guardian/handler is true, I have a huge concern. I hope Sandy Bell puts that individual under a microscope and watches them like a hawk! Someone like that could be a big mess compliance wise if Skal decides to do the best thing for himself, handler be damned.
And I hope that's exactly what Skal does. Look out for himself. In my opinion, his best option is work as hard for Calipari as long as he needs to do so.
And I hope that's exactly what Skal does. Look out for himself. In my opinion, his best option is work as hard for Calipari as long as he needs to do so.
Getting 2 million next year to practice in the D league..... Oh god what a hell.. NOT.
What some people refuse to see or understand is that Skal can improve just as much with private trainers and coaches by paying for them next year as he would here under Cal and staff. And if he goes to the D league, thats where coaches spend time teaching players the game which NBA coaches don't do .
What some people refuse to see or understand is that Skal can improve just as much with private trainers and coaches by paying for them next year as he would here under Cal and staff. And if he goes to the D league, thats where coaches spend time teaching players the game which NBA coaches don't do .
What his "handlers" fear is he'll never make it off the bench next year. For right now, for some reason, he still has NBA value.
Better strike when the iron is hot or it may become too cold for use.
Any nor all players can go through the combine. They will select 50 players. Not selected, you dont go.
I'm not sure Skal or the team would benefit from him coming back. If an NBA team wants to take a gamble on him, then he should go.
He won't be facing "guys like Boogie", at least not for the first year or two, instead he'll be facing D-League competiton (which is still pretty damn strong, btw). I'm sure that whoever drafts Skal will understand that he's a long term project who'll likely need to spend quite awhile developing in the D-League before he's ready to be moved up.
If you can do that while also getting paid the guaranteed first round money it's not at all a bad way to go. For a kid from Skal's background it makes more sense than doing while getting paid nothing here.
Shows you how silly NBA is....to even consider drafting Skal when he is outplayed by a bunch night in/night out and is buried behind non NBA bigs in Lee, Poy and Willis shows you what a farce NBA draft is.
Skal is a big kid with a solid but not elite jump shot...we act like we're seeing a young Dirk Nowitzki in Skal but he isn't even close to as good as Dirk at face up jump shooting. If anything, Skal is a slighly less athletic Jules Camara...who never did a thing in NBA. I still don't see what is the big deal about Skal.
Skal is a big kid with a solid but not elite jump shot...we act like we're seeing a young Dirk Nowitzki in Skal but he isn't even close to as good as Dirk at face up jump shooting. If anything, Skal is a slighly less athletic Jules Camara...who never did a thing in NBA. I still don't see what is the big deal about Skal.
I'd have to disagree. You and I must be watching two totally different games. To me, Skal's problems aren't effort or not playing hard.
Not to mention, I'm pretty sure if he was purposely dogging it in practice or in games, Cal would easily pick up on it, and that's just not something he would allow.
Marvelously gifted, but physically weak and immature. This is a disaster in the making for the young man. His people will destroy him if they don't understand that he needs another full year in a top college strength program and a strong hand from Calipari. If this kid is in the D-league a year for now, that's as good as it will ever get for him and he will be done with pro basketball a year later. Would be the mistake of his life.
I didn't know they kept that by invitation..........not invited...........not interested..........not wanted.....no brainer
If Skal can go 1st round then he should go, I am sure the money can change his family's life. He can spend more time practicing without the demands of school in the D league. If he is a second rounder he should stay, work on his game and a education. Whatever he does I wish him success he has had enough bad luck in his short life.
Not sure why people tend to think this was. The NBA just doesn't draft kids in the lottery, invest millions in them, and then bury them in the D-league and forget all about them.
They would offer him something that UK could never offer him. Skal would have unlimited resources, with unlimited time to get better. Whichever team drafted him would put a team of coaches, trainers etc... around him dedicated to doing nothing but developing his body and game.
not every freshman big guy kicks ass from the gate like KAT. if skal's trajectory more closely mirrors that of big guys who entered the college game back when almost everyone stayed 3+ years, it's not the end of the world. i don't think he played high school basketball the last two seasons
rather take a chance on skal than use a first round pick on a one-dimensional player who was nothing special his first three years in college, like buddy hield
if he plays more like he did against arkansas the rest of the year in 10-15 minutes per game, and shows even marginal improvement holding position and just looking like he has a clue, i'd probably take him over murray as well
rather take a chance on skal than use a first round pick on a one-dimensional player who was nothing special his first three years in college, like buddy hield
if he plays more like he did against arkansas the rest of the year in 10-15 minutes per game, and shows even marginal improvement holding position and just looking like he has a clue, i'd probably take him over murray as well
Some of the posts saying the young man needs to go only because he may not get better and draft status may drop is we're i have issues.
I understand getting the money while you can. But i have to be honest, i agree with our rival fans that we have become a stop over for nba players. After 7 years cant say its not starting to bother me.
If the young man is ready or even close, then go live your dream. But if a young man like skal bounces under his circumstances, then what type of program are we?
Player first program should work both ways. We will give you the exposure and best training facilities to prepare. If your ready go. But if your not as a player first program we should welcome you back with open arms and enthusiasm that you have 4 years to develop.
The twins should not have left, DJ and Lamb even Goodwin. But i feel like their was an underlining pressure from the program that has been developed if you do not get it with in 2 years its time to move on. Almost like we gotta make room for the next batch coming in.
In my opinion guys have left when they shouldn't have. And i believe Cal could of been more convincing. Now i was not in those meetings and Cal may of tried. But if Skal does go i will be disappointed if Cal does not give a truthful account of how it went down. With cal already saying he is not coaching him as a ond shows me cal thinks he should stay.
Hopefully Cal stands up to the money people and puts the player first and advices skal stays. Not only to get better but to mature and just enjoy coll life without the pressures of getting someone else paid.
I understand getting the money while you can. But i have to be honest, i agree with our rival fans that we have become a stop over for nba players. After 7 years cant say its not starting to bother me.
If the young man is ready or even close, then go live your dream. But if a young man like skal bounces under his circumstances, then what type of program are we?
Player first program should work both ways. We will give you the exposure and best training facilities to prepare. If your ready go. But if your not as a player first program we should welcome you back with open arms and enthusiasm that you have 4 years to develop.
The twins should not have left, DJ and Lamb even Goodwin. But i feel like their was an underlining pressure from the program that has been developed if you do not get it with in 2 years its time to move on. Almost like we gotta make room for the next batch coming in.
In my opinion guys have left when they shouldn't have. And i believe Cal could of been more convincing. Now i was not in those meetings and Cal may of tried. But if Skal does go i will be disappointed if Cal does not give a truthful account of how it went down. With cal already saying he is not coaching him as a ond shows me cal thinks he should stay.
Hopefully Cal stands up to the money people and puts the player first and advices skal stays. Not only to get better but to mature and just enjoy coll life without the pressures of getting someone else paid.
Unless the NBA is a lot dumber than I think.....Skal will not be drafted period. He has shown absolutely nothing at this point to say that he is ready to contribute on a D1 roster much less a professional one. He may need to transfer to another school that will play him more....like a mid major...but he is at best a 3 year project.
two corrupt NBA systems (the one year removed rule and the 3-year salary cap against players in their first 3 seasons) have turned the college game, for select players, into a half-way house, a "way" station (pun intended), a care center to pass the time. If that's all UK is to Skal then . . . bye.
He will be able to improve his body and skill more in the D League as a first round pick than playing another year at Kentucky
if he announced he was leaving the team today and worked out with one of his handlers between now and june, there's about a 1% chance he would go undrafted
he's 6'11 with decent athleticism and a good-looking stroke. young players who sit behind veterans in european pro leagues get drafted in the first round every year. there aren't that many available players with nba talent, no matter how raw
I don't give a rats behind what people who are paid think just so you know.
Not much of a stretch to assume that not only his people but everyone figured him for a one and done for a long time now. Of course they want him to jump, that's been the plan for probably years.
It is pretty simple to me. If he feels secure that he is going in the first round, then he should go. If not, he better stay. Waiting another year with this group we have coming in would be a dangerous risk I think. If he drops to the second round, then he better stay and try again next year. But right now, I think his best shot is to go this year if he is still projected first round, no matter where it is.
As long as he's draft in the first round like many think he will be. He will still be getting paid nba money. Which is a lot more than 20,000-30,000.
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Don't follow NBA at all. I keep reading on here how players develop more even in the d-league. Not gonna say they don't but are there any significant examples? How about nerlens? Has he gotten any better offensively? I would expect Skal to go if he's in the lottery. Don't think he would ever go any higher even if he would stay 4 years.
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If anyone says Skal shouldn't go because he is not NBA ready, just shut up because you clearly are in way over your head when talking about the NBA. There's very, very few players that are ever actually NBA ready the second they are drafted.
You've lost it if you think his time to get better doesn't have a very rigid time limit. 2 years. If he isn't ready then, he's gone. I hope I'm wrong but I don't believe he'll be ready then. I'm not sure he'll be ready for SEC competition by then. Regardless of my beliefs though, I think he will go into the draft.
The only people making money off his exposure while he's in college are people other than Skal. When he leaves he immediately begins making REAL MONEY for HIMSELF...as he is being invested in by an NBA franchise, as if he is an investment. (I say investment twice for emphasis) while remaining in the cesspool, that is the NCAA, he is very limited comparatively.
Improve only as much as NCAA rules allows < <<<<< < Become the investment of a multi-billion dollar business, while simultaneously working toward your second (jackpot) contract. Hope Skal's people are as smart as they sound, imo.
A lot of people on this board obviously don't watch the NBA or pay attention to the draft.
If Skal can go 1st round, then make the leap. Get paid for your time and you can improve over the next 3 yr in the D League or on a big boy squad.
People didn't think Myles Turner was ready. Bad freshman year. Our own Trey wasn't ready either.
That's not the point. Just get there and do the work.
If Skal can go 1st round, then make the leap. Get paid for your time and you can improve over the next 3 yr in the D League or on a big boy squad.
People didn't think Myles Turner was ready. Bad freshman year. Our own Trey wasn't ready either.
That's not the point. Just get there and do the work.
Good Lord, no one is talking absolutes. You make that statement like you're talking to Alabama fans. Nearly all of us are keenly aware of what is required in the NBA. Even AD wasn't "ready" his rookie year, but we all knew he belonged there. Skal s quite different. It may be you who doesn't understand.
3 years is really a misnomer. There is a 2 year guarantee with a team option on the third.
Dakari Johnson is currently being groomed in exactly the same way that Skal will be. The NBDL has changed the college game as much or more than any of the draft rules.
I wish Dakari was still around too but it would be selfish of me because he is better off where he is.
I wish Dakari was still around too but it would be selfish of me because he is better off where he is.
nerlens has never played in the d league, but he has gotten better offensively. incrementally
That is a good point on the team option on the third...yet another thing for the players to take into consideration. I believe the possibility of injury outweighs any negatives that NBA contract negotiations would produce.
almost every nba rookie is a net negative as a player
nba execs are comfortable looking at what a prospect is now and attempting to project what he can and likely will be in 3-5 years: that's their job
