You Might Want to Sit Down For This One

[uk8x]

I disagree. Championships = Happiness. If we had won it all this year then our fans would be extremely happy. Cal could say anything and fans would have defended it as genius. Fans are upset because we were so close and came up short then Cal says it wasn't his goal to win a championship. It was for sure his goal, we just came up a little short. Fans are taking the message the wrong way. It's just Cal's way of brushing off not winning the title.

 

[EvilMD]

I think there's a lot of truth to that. I see memorabilia all over the place (t-shirts and commemorative magazines) and I can't bring myself to buy anything. This was the best season we've ever had.....except for the last game. And that's what people remember. If I wore that "38-0" t-shirt U of L fans would come out of the woodwork to say "38 and ONE, dude, ha ha ha ha." Just like people did to the Patriots that one year.

 

[MegaBlue05]

It's just the squeaky wheels who make it sound like there are a bunch of unhappy fans.

The "traditionalists" will be horrible no matter what. They still want every player to stay four years and would prefer all of them to be white and from Kentucky. I remember when Cal came here we had a bunch of idiots up in arms over tattoos, headbands and arm sleeves.

The other camp, just bitches to hear their heads rattle.

I was disappointed we lost to Wisconsin and some of the recruiting misses baffled me, but I'm not going to turn on the coach for trying to sell his program the best way he sees fit.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

I do not know one UK fan that wants Cal gone. Not one. Wanting him to stop stalling late and trying to score more does not equal firing him. We lost to Wisconsin due to poor coaching. Cal is not above being criticized. I wanted Cal in 07 and was trashed so hold your fire.

 

[Jkwo]

I do not know one UK fan that wants Cal gone. Not one. Wanting him to stop stalling late and trying to score more does not equal firing him. We lost to Wisconsin due to poor coaching. Cal is not above being criticized. I wanted Cal in 07 and was trashed so hold your fire.

There are a small number on here who would take somewhat less success in exchange for a more "traditional coach". And then they have the gall to make it sound like the Cal supporters are the ones taking sides against the program.

 

[3rex]

The "traditionalists" will be horrible no matter what. They still want every player to stay four years and would prefer all of them to be white and from Kentucky.

Well, your 1st point is idiotic and you're 2nd is completely fabricated out of thin air as I have never met one single fan who "want every player to stay four years and would prefer all of them to be white and from Kentucky."

Other than that, great post...

 

[uk8x]

UK fans enjoy having Cal. We want him to retire here. Opponents and the media do not want Cal here. They are trying to stir the pot so they can say we run him off. If he ever decides to leave it will be because it was his decision not the fans. They want to paint our fan base in nothing but a negative light. They know we will be contenders for a title year in and year out and will do anything to make that cease to happen.I agree lets get excited for next year.

 

[Federal Cat]

Like other posters have said it's very hard to win a title but we have been in contention every year for one except the nit year, he brought us out of the abyss we fell to in one recruiting season, he's a family man with values, always does some kind of charity that raises a lot of money for the needy, cares about our players, if he achieves this level of success every year and falls short I'm not gonna bitch too much considering where we came from

 

[BostonCat2001]

It's just the squeaky wheels who make it sound like there are a bunch of unhappy fans.

The "traditionalists" will be horrible no matter what. They still want every player to stay four years and would prefer all of them to be white and from Kentucky. I remember when Cal came here we had a bunch of idiots up in arms over tattoos, headbands and arm sleeves.

The other camp, just bitches to hear their heads rattle.

I was disappointed we lost to Wisconsin and some of the recruiting misses baffled me, but I'm not going to turn on the coach for trying to sell his program the best way he sees fit.

^^^ THIS

 

[kybassfan]

I finally got this figured out. Took awhile.

This is a result of a vast conspiracy by the CIA and University of Kentucky to bring disruption to the fan base so that season tickets would not be renewed and thus could be sold via a clandestine bid process to North Koreans. Literally millions of dollars and world peace stood in the balance. Phase one was to have a tremendously successful season only to have it fall a few points short of perfection through use of bad karma generators installed at the final four venue. Phase two was to induce high ranking recruits to go places other than the University of Kentucky. Phase three was to brain wash the coach, one John Calipari, to utter a simple and meaningless phrase in the special language of "coach speak" that only he has mastered. It was expected that a very small percentage of the fan base would lack the mental acuity to recognize this statement for what it was, thus motivating them to release their season tickets. Phase Four was to trade the season tickets for yellow cake (white frosting but red velvet with same frosting would also work) to be weaponized and deployed at various state dinners. Mass chaos was anticipated on the world political stage.

Phase 1 is complete and successful. Phase 2 was a very limited success, with the Cats again having one of highest ranked recruiting classes in the country. Phase 3 continues but proceeds out of control. Due to the number of meaningless threads created on various web sites for purposes of demonizing the highly successful Kentucky coach, the internet may lack the bandwidth to conduct the transaction with the North Koreans. This failure is due to the underestimation of the size of the target population of Kentucky fans that could type. Phase 3 is considered to be "at risk".

Phase 4, while not yet begun, also faces a sinister threat. A coach, who job is at risk for unrelated circumstances, is exploring a new career as a ticket scalper. He is offering an RC coler and moon pie for every KY season ticket found in the trash of the small but hysterical group of Kentucky fans. Mysteriously, all their trash cans have disappeared. Current intelligence suggests he plans to use the tickets to fund a start up company which plans to print UNC sheep skins for sale off the back of milk trucks.

So there you have it. The conspiracy is outted. The plot foiled all due to a bunch of stupid threads over a meaningless comment made by Calipari.

The whiners have saved the world!!

Yeah, its a stupid story but it makes more sense than another stupid thread on this stupid topic.

 

[GOING FOR #9]

I do not know one UK fan that wants Cal gone. Not one. Wanting him to stop stalling late and trying to score more does not equal firing him. We lost to Wisconsin due to poor coaching. Cal is not above being criticized. I wanted Cal in 07 and was trashed so hold your fire.

I agree with you...90% do not want cal to leave. My concern is unintended consequences that come with all the uproar over his philosophy when dealing with student athletes. My philosophy is that every person who works for the university of Kentucky should be student centric first so I agree with cal in much of what he says. As a fan though no doubt our tradition is what matters. the question is do you want to build tradition with a coach who is a players coach, or do we want some one out there basking in the glory of tradition while showing nominal growth in our accomplishments? matt jones, message forums, other media outlets could potentially run cal out with too much of this stuff

 

[WhiteCityCat1]

I love having Coach Cal leading our program , but he seems to be the king of coach speak . I don't for a second believe that he doesn't want to win the championship every year. He has succeeded in bringing in the best talent , and numerous wins and final fours ,and putting some good young men into the league . But he is a competitor and I have to believe that not hanging the banner this year was a punch to his gut .

 

[Park75]

I see it as a win either way. If you have seven guys going to the draft your gonna win alot of games too.
We had an historical season and we also won the SEC Tournament which we hadn't done since 2011.

 

[irishcat1965]

Reading these threads is like watching the movie Groundhog Day.

 

[JohnnyinShelbyville]

^ more like living it...

 

[the nail at the foul line]

No place exist where a coach does not get criticized. Cal can take it.

 

[3rex]

Yes

I like them both. Very much.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Does this thread count? I know I am excited about draft day 2016. Nothing else matters.

 

[UKhoopCat]

If not continue to rip cal for his comments. I'm sure that will help keep him in lex. If you are satisfied with occasionally being relevant then keep working to run cal off. Cal is a players coach and this is a players game. We could not have a better coach than a guy who cares first for kids. I don't like the one and done...I want to get to know the players but newsflash cal doesn't like the oad either. I know people are frustrated we lost the undefeated year...I know they are frustrated bc of recruiting misses but it's time to regroup and cheer like hell for the final four caliber team we have for next year and quit hanging on to a few words cal has said. I'm sure he is disappointed by our ultimate result and this rhetoric is not going to help him or our team bring the A game next year.

Well said. I don't have a problem at all with what Cal said...if we're having eight players chosen in the NBA Draft, we should be pretty darn good and the rest will take care of itself.

You continue to get to Final Fours...championships will come along with it.

 

[Federal Cat]

He said he posts on RuppRafters as maverick1.

Funny man

 

[Federal Cat]

Shhhhhhh

Too late your secrets out coach

 

[Cawood86]

Honestly don't know what some fans want or expect. Truthfully, if you are not happy with Cal or his results then I don't know what you are looking for.

Cal has made UK the "IT" school. Recruits are listing UK who don't even have offers from UK because of that. Look at UK's OOC this coming year, everybody wants to play UK because of who they are. Goodness sake, their Bahamas trip was televised. Games that didn't even count.

Cal has a record of 190-38 in 6 years, 4 FF's and a NC. Yet there are some knuckleheads who are not happy with him. It's no wonder that this place is overwhelming. I'd rather these folks just find another team to pull for personally. Just ridiculous.

 

[3rex]

new thread discussing coach Cal's comments...

well, not any more.

good job!

 

[Delk#00]

Yawn... Another thread of this?

 

[chevyman 50]

I thank most of these people are ville fans that are always giving coach Cal a hard time, true UK fans love coach Cal. 38 and 1 and he is not in to winning.. come on..

 

[kybigblue]

I only have one question I would like those who believe this to answer.

Why as the year went on you seen more play at the most important position on the court from a young man that had a 0% chance of leaving for the draft this year?

Besides Ulis playing more, this time on the court was at the expense of a young man who needed more time on the court to better his dropping draft status.

Just my opinion. But I think Cal went with Ulis because it gave us the best chance to WIN. And had nothing to do with getting anyone drafted.

Maybe if Ulis had been at pt we wouldn't have had those shot clock violations late against Wisconsin.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Not wanting to win title makes the last 5 minutes versus Wisconsin clear now. He is paid to win. He failed when he had superior talent. Hate to say it but the 38 were not the goal.

 

[kybassfan]

Not wanting to win title makes the last 5 minutes versus Wisconsin clear now. He is paid to win. He failed when he had superior talent. Hate to say it but the 38 were not the goal.

Dead on the money. No coach in history ever went with bigger stronger and more experienced guards when the game is on the line. Well, that would be just stupid. Must have been an clandestine motive to get kids drafted. Every other coach in history would have gone with their least experience point guard.

Another thing, the Harrisons had their turn the year before right? Let poor Ulis have a shot, right? Every other coach would'a been fair and give him a shot.

Idiots everywhere we look. You a drunk card, stoned hoosier or puke boy?

 

[CAWOOD FAN]

I just want to win---- championships, don't care a flip about players getting drafted or watching them in the pros.

Amen.

 

[kybassfan]

I've said this many times before, but with a single elimination tournament, there is only one team that matters in the end. That is the team that wins it all. Where the NCAA tournament is concerned this is especially true as the seeding is suspect. The brackets are design to pick a single best team over the duration of the tournament. Its fun to go deeper, surely. However, when its all said and one, there is the champion and there is everyone else. That's the math of it. You can argue differently but you will be wrong.

Double elimination tournaments and other formats are designed to provide a semblance of a ranking of the top tournament participants. This takes several more games and even those formats are fallible.

The final four, elite eight, etc are merely advertising vehicles promoted by the media, particularly ESPN. As I stated, its fun to go deeper, but the final four is not necessarily the top four. The final two are not necessarily the top two, etc.

Note that all this has no bearing on comments by Calipari that were taken out of context. That is simply a few fans with coping issues egged on by rival fans. Its pretty sad they let themselves be played in that fashion.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Idiots everywhere we look. You a drunk card, stoned hoosier or puke boy?

UK fan since 1971. I was 6. Not an idiot. I can recognize stubborn. Cal needs to not slow down game against tired teams.

Btw., I used to be called an idiot for begging for Cal.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Why is ESPN advertising a CBS product?

 

[kybassfan]

UK fan since 1971. I was 6. Not an idiot. I can recognize stubborn. Cal needs to not slow down game against tired teams.

Btw., I used to be called an idiot for begging for Cal.

So you say. How much did you earn as a D1 coach last year? I didn't earn a nickel but I know what 38 - 1 means.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

So only Bo Ryan and Coach K can comment on Cal?

Why is there doubt about my fandom? I am upset UK lost while you are as happy as a clam! I have my doubts about you.

 

[irishcat1965]

So only Bo Ryan and Coach K can comment on Cal?

Why is there doubt about my fandom? I am upset UK lost while you are as happy as a clam! I have my doubts about you.

Wrong. Most fans are upset about the loss but take a rational approach to the loss. You do not.

 

[kybassfan]

So only Bo Ryan and Coach K can comment on Cal?

Why is there doubt about my fandom? I am upset UK lost while you are as happy as a clam! I have my doubts about you.

Naw, just never foolish enough to trash my coach in public after a 38 - 1 season. Really makes one look very foolish and invites trash talk from other schools. Case in point.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Show me where I trashed Cal.

 

[dave5164]

What I can't believe is the Fans don't understand why Coach Cal said this when he did and that was for the 2016 & 2017 recruiting classes that he has being going strong since the season ended after the Final Four. If you don't believe that Coach Cal wanted to be Wisconsin to be able to play Duke for a National Championship for #1 and for #2 an undefeated season 40-0! Coach Cal has said a couple of times over last couple of years that one goal that would be hard to get but he would like to have is going undefeated and here were sitting in the Final Four at 38-0 and had only 2 wins to go 40-0 and Undefeated and then on top of that beating Duke for the National Championship. He wanted that more than of us fans and if you didn't see it after the defeat vs. Wisconsin then you must be blind. For this team to play the Platoon and want to play as much Team ball between the 10 players and most were 5-star players they all wanted the 40-0 undefeated and the National Championship vs. Duke. Coach Cal likes to talk about the amount of his players to NBA because this is great Recruiting tool especially being at this time of the year where you can see that Coach Cal is recruiting hard for 2016 & 2017 Recruiting classes. There is NO Head Coach that I have seen that would not want to win games and to win a National Championship!

 

[KyFaninNC]

Well I don't think he's getting eight players drafted.

NOPE and did NOT win the title= double fail. But, I think Cal learned a lot of what not to do in the Wisky loss, so I think he will be a better coach because of it.

 

[kybassfan]

Show me where I trashed Cal.

"Not wanting to win title makes the last 5 minutes versus Wisconsin clear now. He is paid to win. He failed when he had superior talent. Hate to say it but the 38 were not the goal."

There you go.