Saw somewhere that he's visiting UNCheat and is likely to end up there, even if he has to sit out. Whatever.
Wonder where cam will land at now?
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. Yes lets take the 1 tool player who can't defend, handle a ball or drive over the guy who can do it all and is a once in a lifetime athlete just because said 1 tool player's 1 tool is shooting . Yep no sour grapes there .And to answer the question it won't be Zona and UK since they both got back their players. So who knows?? UNC ? I mean they are devoid of talent really beyond the guard spots and Johnson would start at sf there ( which is he not a sg) . I could see a starting line up of Berry/Pinson/Johnson/Maye and whatever shlub they roll out at C as they have no top 75 bigs .
I'm not surprised.
I'll take the guy who DeAaron Fox called the best defender he played against last year, who Matt Norlander (CBS-basketball analyst) said instantly elevated Kentucky to Final Four contender status and who Norlander says should average 15-ppg, and who top NBA scouts called one of the most freakish athletes in the history of the NBA combine over a combo wing (not a true 2g) who was rated as a below average defender, mediocre athlete and who averaged 11.9 ppg on a team that went 4-14 in conference.
It's amazing how many people on this board are know it all, smart asses. Geez, am I glad we got Diallo back? Absolutely. Would I have been just as happy to have gotten Cam Johnson? Absolutely. Just because one person prefers player A over player B doesn't make him wrong or right. That's why they're called preferences and opinions.
I love how some of our fans have created this narrative that Diallo is all that's wrong with the world and Cam Johnson is the beacon for hope. They're trying to decide where to play basketball next season and somehow Diallo has gotten turned into a selfish kid who owes the university and a bunch of fans 40 games next season. Meanwhile Cam Johnson only cares about a title and would come here and be a BBN first kind of guy. Oh but how they forget Cam just left a university, to better his chances to play in the NBA, and one that obviously doesn't care about him the way they've handled this. Nothing against Cam but I just don't understand some on this board.
I will gladly take a Archie Goodwin type freshman season from Diallo. Goodwin was a very good player for us that had to force alot more than normal because he had very little help.
Why not come here and do what he can on this years team? The following year he could possibly be the man while having the experience that we always need to make our young roster better. Seems like a win win to me. With that said I think Arizona or ucla are his likely destination.
Also I'll miss the potential jokes that willy4uk was ready to make had he actually came here
Also I'll miss the potential jokes that willy4uk was ready to make had he actually came here
I just don't see him at UNC because Cam has to be wondering what if anything the NCAA will do to UNC***cheaters. I wish he would pick UK because of his shooting & experience. We will just have to wait and see.
Who is to say that Johnson won't decide "might as well go to UK and win a national championship or maybe two since I'm in college anyway."
SKJ got Humphries-type minutes last year, except for the end of the season. I expect him to get a lot more minutes this year.
I agree, but you'll get killed here. People like draft stock = college success level. When Cal's teams struggle it is more often than not due to outside shooting. I'd have loved to get Johnson back and have him for two years.
But I'll gladly take a Hami in hand over a Johnson in the bush.
If he wants to play and win a title this season, then his best choices are Zona or UK.
He won't start for either team, but they are the only true contenders on his list, IMHO.
If he goes to UNC, he has to sit, and even if he gets around that somehow, they have big questions along their frontline. Some feel like they might be NIT bound this year.
Oregon lost a lot of talent off their team. I don't see them making a return trip to the Final Four without those key guys.
UK and Zona are both in pretty good shape. If he really wants a title, he should go to one of those schools and be a role player this season.
If he doesn't mind going out West, then Zona is a great situation. Back up for Trier and Alkins. Lots of open looks with Ayton inside. He is even big enough to play a stretch 4 at times when Zona wants to go small with Parker-Cartwright, Trier, Alkins, and Johnson around Ayton inside.
UK would also be a great spot, but it would be harder to get minutes with all the wings we have. Cal as a coach gives you a better shot at a title than Miller. Cal gives you a better shot at getting drafted.
UK is a lot closer to his hometown. UK is on television more.
He won't start for either team, but they are the only true contenders on his list, IMHO.
If he goes to UNC, he has to sit, and even if he gets around that somehow, they have big questions along their frontline. Some feel like they might be NIT bound this year.
Oregon lost a lot of talent off their team. I don't see them making a return trip to the Final Four without those key guys.
UK and Zona are both in pretty good shape. If he really wants a title, he should go to one of those schools and be a role player this season.
If he doesn't mind going out West, then Zona is a great situation. Back up for Trier and Alkins. Lots of open looks with Ayton inside. He is even big enough to play a stretch 4 at times when Zona wants to go small with Parker-Cartwright, Trier, Alkins, and Johnson around Ayton inside.
UK would also be a great spot, but it would be harder to get minutes with all the wings we have. Cal as a coach gives you a better shot at a title than Miller. Cal gives you a better shot at getting drafted.
UK is a lot closer to his hometown. UK is on television more.
I think it really depends on what his priorities are. Looking at video footage of him, he's not very athletic and quick. He's a great 3 point shooter with range, but does not create his own shot. He was only a 3 star out of high school and the reality is the NBA is probably not in his future. If he realizes this and wants to play for a contending team then Kentucky and Arizona are his best options.
Ok so its possible that your preference would be Brad Calipari over Malik Monk?? Uh no, Diallo and Johnson are NOT on equal levels. Diallo is a future lottery pick that can do it all, Johnson is an older guy who can only shoot, therefore this is not a preference or opinion. If you're just as happy with Johnson as Diallo, that makes you an idiot.
You're correct, if you're building an all-star team, but if you're building a basketball team then its not that simple. But this future lottery pick stuff simply isn't relevant to what is best for UK next year.
Hami is probably a great player, but stop acting like he is a transcendent talent. If he was as good as some of you are acting like he is then at least one team would have taken a chance on him. He is an incredible athlete, with great measurables who has the POTENTIAL to become a great player down the road.
If the goal is to have the most UK alums at the NBA all-star game then Hami is the pick hands down. If the goal is to win the most games next year then there is room for discussion.
Oregon was my first thought. Lots of playing time available and they'll let him shoot all he wants. Good coach and decent crowd support so I think it would be a good fit for him
Easy decision, Miami.
In what world do you see Diallo and Archie being the same player?
Probably because he has NBA aspirations and those 2 teams never produce NBA talent.
Actually, that's exactly what it is, an opinion. Name calling is petty, so please stop. It makes us all look bad. Also, I never said it was MY opinion. Although I would be happy to have had either player.
How about Cam Johnson going to UNC, and then they take a major probation hit? Still possible, so seems crazy just because Roy says so doesn't make it the truth.
UNC can still be hammered and like Syracuse and have their tourney taken away along with many wins by players that didn't have to stay eligible.
Johnson should want better for himself than to roll the dice on Roy's words.
UNC can still be hammered and like Syracuse and have their tourney taken away along with many wins by players that didn't have to stay eligible.
Johnson should want better for himself than to roll the dice on Roy's words.
We'll disagree then, if you're having to discuss in any way or form how Johnson would be better for this team than Hami when Hami will impact the team in basically every statistical category then you're in the wrong discussion.
Anyone can have an opinion but when that opinion isn't based on any factual information whatsoever and is actually contrary to facts then that opinion transforms to idiocy. I'm not calling you names, just I feel your "opinion" is idiotic, I'm sure you're a fine feller.
As wide as HD's swathe...he may be able to guard two spots...
I'm the finest little feller you'll ever meet. Gotta love good basketball discussion in May!
Wow! I thought I made it clear that I was just stating my opinions.
Diallo will never be the shooter Cam is and will have 2 years less experience in college than Cam. He will be a OAD and be drafted high, though. His measurements are off the charts.
Cam will never be the NBA prospect Diallo is. He would have had more experience than anyone else on our roster by far had he came and has seen what it is like to play at places like Duke and UNC (Where he scored over 20). He went from a very low rated player to a great college player by busting his ads all while graduating in 3 years with a 3.8 GPA.
It all comes down to who you think gives us the best chance at winning the championship. Another future NBA star or a great college player that would be the best shooter UK has had since Lamb. Yeah, better than Monk if I were forced to choose.
Most equate draft status with desirability, apparently. I guess that's why I'm getting so hated on in this thread for having an opinion and sticking with it even after the announcement was made.
Have you ever heard the phrase "Too many chiefs, not enough Indians"? That's my fear for our incoming team. Hopefully I'm 100% wrong!
All in my completely worthless opinion as always.
Diallo will never be the shooter Cam is and will have 2 years less experience in college than Cam. He will be a OAD and be drafted high, though. His measurements are off the charts.
Cam will never be the NBA prospect Diallo is. He would have had more experience than anyone else on our roster by far had he came and has seen what it is like to play at places like Duke and UNC (Where he scored over 20). He went from a very low rated player to a great college player by busting his ads all while graduating in 3 years with a 3.8 GPA.
It all comes down to who you think gives us the best chance at winning the championship. Another future NBA star or a great college player that would be the best shooter UK has had since Lamb. Yeah, better than Monk if I were forced to choose.
Most equate draft status with desirability, apparently. I guess that's why I'm getting so hated on in this thread for having an opinion and sticking with it even after the announcement was made.
Have you ever heard the phrase "Too many chiefs, not enough Indians"? That's my fear for our incoming team. Hopefully I'm 100% wrong!
All in my completely worthless opinion as always.
I'm not overly concerned with getting killed here. Most of the people would be bashing Diallo and praising Johnson had it played out differently. I can just state an opinion and commit to it.
I'm fine with either player and they each would have strengths and weaknesses. I'm pleased either way.
Damn, a guy gives his opinion and gets attacked by 3 of you guys.
Jeez, all he said was HE wanted CJ more than he wanted HD.
Actually, right now, Johnson might be the better player, he has size, length, can shoot it well and he has played and excelled in the ACC, so when someone's opinion is that they like Cam more than HD for one season, it's really not that far fetched.
Sure, HD has much more upside, but CJ and his experience will win us a couple of games early that we would lose without him.
I don't understand the reason y'all are piling on the guy with smart ass remarks.
I think it is kind of silly that we already have a few fans saying they want Cam over Diallo cause of the fact Cam wants to win and would anything to win and Diallo doesn't and wont. That is insane. If you like the kid for the reason of shooting, that's cool. I can at least understand that reasoning. The will to win is something none of us know about either kid. I don't even think Cam's team won many games last season, so how do we know he would do everything to win? Diallo will be no different than all the other elite talent that would rather be in the NBA making millions instead of playing college basketball and that is to produce on the court and help Kentucky win a lot of basketball games. No reason to think this kid would be any different than the rest of the elite guys Cal coached while at Kentucky. If you give any freshman player in the country a shot at the NBA and the money that means, they would do their best to take it. It doesn't mean they don't love their school or the game of college basketball, it means they are thinking about their family and future and bringing in as much income as possible. Diallo will be a special talent for Kentucky next season and will do everything on the court to help Kentucky win games.If you don't believe that to be true, you have not been paying attention to all the elite guys Cal has coached while at Kentucky.
ChattanoogaWildcat,
I apologize. I was under the impression that a forum was the exact place for speculation and to discuss different posters opinions.
The point about Cam wanting a championship more probably had to deal with knowing that Diallo is only here because after trying right up until the last minutes, he had to resign to attending UK instead and has one foot out the door instead of a player like Cam Johnson that REALLY wanted to be here a while back it seemed, have Cal teach him the lateral quickness needed for the NBA and win a title or two. Is that really such an outlandish remark?
Thanks to all of the posters that have had my back on me simply stating my own opinion, whether you agree or not. I have never been attacked with such vitriol for saying something as sane as "I'd rather have Cam than HD". Again, my reasoning is that Cam brings shooting and experience to the team, which we are desperately lacking. On the other hand, Diallo brings us another wing type player that is an average shooter at best to join Knox, Vanderbilt, and Gabriel who we already have on our roster and are pretty similar to Diallo in that respect.
I'm not saying Cam is better than Diallo. Diallo will certainly be the better NBA player, but for next year's college team, I still think that Cam fills more holes on our roster than Diallo does, despite how high he can jump. Cam is also a 2 yr player while Diallo barely even withdrew for this season.
These are just my opinions meant to help bring conversation. Not my attempt at starting some kind of hate war. I'm sorry if my own personal opinion offended anyone, but I also thought that is why these forums existed to begin with.
And, how I end EVERY post to try and prevent this back and forth hate filled madness... Pay attention...
All in my completely worthless opinion as always.
I apologize. I was under the impression that a forum was the exact place for speculation and to discuss different posters opinions.
The point about Cam wanting a championship more probably had to deal with knowing that Diallo is only here because after trying right up until the last minutes, he had to resign to attending UK instead and has one foot out the door instead of a player like Cam Johnson that REALLY wanted to be here a while back it seemed, have Cal teach him the lateral quickness needed for the NBA and win a title or two. Is that really such an outlandish remark?
Thanks to all of the posters that have had my back on me simply stating my own opinion, whether you agree or not. I have never been attacked with such vitriol for saying something as sane as "I'd rather have Cam than HD". Again, my reasoning is that Cam brings shooting and experience to the team, which we are desperately lacking. On the other hand, Diallo brings us another wing type player that is an average shooter at best to join Knox, Vanderbilt, and Gabriel who we already have on our roster and are pretty similar to Diallo in that respect.
I'm not saying Cam is better than Diallo. Diallo will certainly be the better NBA player, but for next year's college team, I still think that Cam fills more holes on our roster than Diallo does, despite how high he can jump. Cam is also a 2 yr player while Diallo barely even withdrew for this season.
These are just my opinions meant to help bring conversation. Not my attempt at starting some kind of hate war. I'm sorry if my own personal opinion offended anyone, but I also thought that is why these forums existed to begin with.
And, how I end EVERY post to try and prevent this back and forth hate filled madness... Pay attention...
All in my completely worthless opinion as always.
