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Wonder where cam will land at now?

I just wonder why some think Cam has wanted UK so badly.He has had his offer for quite some time and could have commited but has really seemed to want UNC so badly that he is trying to get the one year rule changed.People act like it was either Diallo or Johnson but I have serious doubts that cam would be at UK even if Diallo had left.
 
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On April 24th, the Herald Leader named UK as his leaders.via http://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article146532634.html

On April 16th, both UK recruiting analysts Jerry Meyer (247sports) and Evan Daniels (Scout) declared him UK bound via http://www.aseaofblue.com/2017/4/26...cruiting-experts-picks-pitt-graduate-transfer

From SEC country on April 7th via https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.se...ucky-recruiting-calipari-pitt-cam-johnson/amp all the way up to April 29th according to Evan Daniels (Scout) via http://www.aseaofblue.com/2017/4/29...van-daniels-decision-between-kentucky-arizona

I don't see how ANYBODY could have perceived any school other than Kentucky as his leader. All it takes is a quick Google search, for a 3 week plus time period, Cam was all but a done deal.

This all changed when he visited without committing. I guess I'm not sure why you are so shocked that nearly everyone in college basketball considered Kentucky his leader and probable destination up to a month ago.
 
If he wants to come to UK, it makes no sense to be so set on getting cleared for UNC.

I agree he may have always gone to UNC.

According to a lot of the hit pieces out there on the matter, he really likes UNC and UNC is making a big push late. They're saying he may go there even if he has to sit out a year. Which makes me think he's for sure UNC bound.
 
Cats192,

I'd agree with that statement. My point for posting all those links was for the guy asking why we thought we ever had a chance with Cam.

We did. Obviously. Just Google it. From 4-7ish up to 4-30.any so called expert would have made UK HUGE favorites and that stopped when he visited and left without committing.

99%.of the UK recruiting "analysts" following the situation expected Cam to commit during his visit. He decided to keep looking, but didn't say no.

If he is really considering going to UNC, sitting a year, and only having one year of eligibility left, Calipari needs to go at him hard, ASAP.

He brings shooting and experience to the roster at a much higher level than anyone else. Graduated in 3 years with a 3.8 GPA. If he like Calipari so much due to him having the best chance to get him in the NBA, why sit out at UNC?

Sure, you probably won't average more than 20 mpg or score over 10 ppg this season, but your season after that? 30 mpg at the 2-3, score a crap load of points, get more exposure than ever thought possible, spend every day in practice guarding guys like Diallo, Knox, and JV to improve your lateral quickness this season while still pitching in 20 mpg and 8 ppg as our one real outside threat.

How is sitting out for a year of eligibility that you'll never get back to play for a team that is due to be punished sometime soon (You'd think) better than what UK has to offer?

Cam, you're being sold snake oil by ole Roy Williams. Go ask Patrick Patterson or WCS what Calipari can do to your game to help maximize your draft stock?

Do you really think sitting out a year at UNC is the better option even if UK can only give up 20 mpg, 8 ppg, and give you 3 NBA quality wings to practice against every day, which is what you need to work on to increase your draft stock? Especially considering the fact that next year when Knox, Diallo, and JV are gone, you are going to inherent one of those starting spots and have a chance to be Kentucky's highest scorer as a SR. Any player that has led UK in scoring under Cal is currently in the NBA...
 
Cats192,

I'd agree with that statement. My point for posting all those links was for the guy asking why we thought we ever had a chance with Cam.

We did. Obviously. Just Google it. From 4-7ish up to 4-30.any so called expert would have made UK HUGE favorites and that stopped when he visited and left without committing.

99%.of the UK recruiting "analysts" following the situation expected Cam to commit during his visit. He decided to keep looking, but didn't say no.

If he is really considering going to UNC, sitting a year, and only having one year of eligibility left, Calipari needs to go at him hard, ASAP.

He brings shooting and experience to the roster at a much higher level than anyone else. Graduated in 3 years with a 3.8 GPA. If he like Calipari so much due to him having the best chance to get him in the NBA, why sit out at UNC?

Sure, you probably won't average more than 20 mpg or score over 10 ppg this season, but your season after that? 30 mpg at the 2-3, score a crap load of points, get more exposure than ever thought possible, spend every day in practice guarding guys like Diallo, Knox, and JV to improve your lateral quickness this season while still pitching in 20 mpg and 8 ppg as our one real outside threat.

How is sitting out for a year of eligibility that you'll never get back to play for a team that is due to be punished sometime soon (You'd think) better than what UK has to offer?

Cam, you're being sold snake oil by ole Roy Williams. Go ask Patrick Patterson or WCS what Calipari can do to your game to help maximize your draft stock?

Do you really think sitting out a year at UNC is the better option even if UK can only give up 20 mpg, 8 ppg, and give you 3 NBA quality wings to practice against every day, which is what you need to work on to increase your draft stock? Especially considering the fact that next year when Knox, Diallo, and JV are gone, you are going to inherent one of those starting spots and have a chance to be Kentucky's highest scorer as a SR. Any player that has led UK in scoring under Cal is currently in the NBA...
It would seem that playing right away and 2 years with a shot at a national championship would be attractive for a college kid.He would have work thru Diallo,Baker and maybe Knox but the experience he has would put him ahead of the game to some degree.He must have heard or seen something he didn't like on the visit.He is most likely a bright kid if he was able to graduate in 2 or 3 years.

T.V. exposure,playing on an elite team and great facilities would seem to be an attractive package,maybe he has X amount of playing time in mind and we know Cal doesn't promise that.

I think he and Willis would be a good comparison as far as type of player goes and maybe that would translate into similar minutes as well.If he came to UK I would think his second year would give him the chance to play a large role on a very god team.
 
It seems as though he holds himself to a very high standard, meaning he wants to go to an elite program and be a starter and have big minutes and a big contributing factor to a team that has a strong chance to win a NC. Arizona, UK, UNC, UCLA all offered that at the beginning of his recruitment. As the cards played out Zona and UK didn't pan out due to people coming back. UNC coming off the heels of a NC is probably a big selling point and if he gets to play immediately stepping into the Jackson role is probably very appealing. However, if the block isn't lifted I can see him suprising people and going UCLA. He would then fill the Leaf role. IF none of those play out, I can see him looking at UK before sitting out a year at UNC. But if I had to guess I would say his list looks like this:
Block still in place:
UCLA
UK
Zona
UNC
Block removed:
UNC
 
Does this kid have legit NBA aspirations? Honest question. If not, he may not care to 1. sit out a year or 2. practice against the best.
 
ChattanoogaWildcat,

I apologize. I was under the impression that a forum was the exact place for speculation and to discuss different posters opinions.

The point about Cam wanting a championship more probably had to deal with knowing that Diallo is only here because after trying right up until the last minutes, he had to resign to attending UK instead and has one foot out the door instead of a player like Cam Johnson that REALLY wanted to be here a while back it seemed, have Cal teach him the lateral quickness needed for the NBA and win a title or two. Is that really such an outlandish remark?

Thanks to all of the posters that have had my back on me simply stating my own opinion, whether you agree or not. I have never been attacked with such vitriol for saying something as sane as "I'd rather have Cam than HD". Again, my reasoning is that Cam brings shooting and experience to the team, which we are desperately lacking. On the other hand, Diallo brings us another wing type player that is an average shooter at best to join Knox, Vanderbilt, and Gabriel who we already have on our roster and are pretty similar to Diallo in that respect.

I'm not saying Cam is better than Diallo. Diallo will certainly be the better NBA player, but for next year's college team, I still think that Cam fills more holes on our roster than Diallo does, despite how high he can jump. Cam is also a 2 yr player while Diallo barely even withdrew for this season.

These are just my opinions meant to help bring conversation. Not my attempt at starting some kind of hate war. I'm sorry if my own personal opinion offended anyone, but I also thought that is why these forums existed to begin with.

And, how I end EVERY post to try and prevent this back and forth hate filled madness... Pay attention...

All in my completely worthless opinion as always.
Cam doesn't Really want to be here, he just isn't talented enough to be paid millions to play ball.
 
Cam wants to be here in order to make millions of dollars with Cal's help and practicing against 3 players in Diallo, Knox, and Vanderbilt that are the exact reason he isn't already a pro.

Cam is quite a bit ahead of Willis or Mulder at this point. He is a more athletic Wiltjer in some ways, if you wanted my comparison.

43% from 3, 82% FT, 11.9 PPG (12.9 IN ACC) while standing 6'9", graduating from Pitt in 3 yrs with a 3.8 GPA, and putting those stats up on a team that ran every play through their 2 talented SR bigs who both averaged 17ppg+.

He wasn't recruited hard as a FR. Was a RS after a shoulder injury. He has rapidly improved during his 3 years at PITT.

The only think keeping him from the NBA? Lacking lateral quickness to guard an NBA 2, like Diallo & Knox or adding 25 lbs to guard an NBA 3, like Vanderbilt & Gabriel.

That's why I think attending UK will help him a TON. He will be practicing against the exact type of players that scouts have told him to work on guarding.

I too do not see 30 minutes for him at UK this season, but think 20.minutes & 8ppg is realistic.

Cam gives us the experience and shooting we are missing while we give Cam the ability to improve his draft stock every day in practice. Both sides win.

I hope he sees it that way before he seriously considers sitting a year out to play 1 year for UNC instead of 2 years at UK. 20 MPG May be the most he can hope to get this year, but as a returning SR, he will get 30 mpg as a starter and have a GREAT chance to lead UK in scoring.

I guess we will see what happens. Right now it appears he will head to UCLA where we will not hear of him ever again (Ha!).

Hell of a college player that will shine wherever he lands, IMO.

All in my completely worthless opinion as always.
 
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