Why Stoops is on the hot seat?

[Poetax]

UK football fans easy to please. Over look the fact we sucked since he's been here 12-24 all because he can recruit in Ohio and beat out Kent St for 3 star talent.

It's no wonder coaches are lazy here.

This doesn't have an ounce of intelligence in it. What other staff in our history who has not cheated ever recruited this well? Stoops hasn't been the best game coach that we have ever had but please stop with the bashing of our recruiting, it makes you look like you know nothing about football.

 

[brianpoe]

Contacts!!!! And WITCH's "OH MY!"...."I'll GET YOU STOOPS and YOUR LITTLE STAFF AS WELL!!!!!....he he he he cackling laugh!!!

Quoting yourself in every thread you post in is not only really weird, it also makes it difficult to take anything you say serious.

 

[Crootin]

Of course we all know that it takes twelve years to build a program in the SEC.

I know you're being facetious Prime, but that screenshot should end any and all discussion about how long it takes a coach to build a contender at an historically terrible SEC East school. But it won't.

Look at Vandy's record the two years prior to Franklin. Then look at the two years after Franklin. If Derek Mason gives Vandy a better record this year than Mark Stoops does here, Stoops should immediately be chased off the campus a la Clyde, and our endless search should begin anew.

 

[jauk11]

Please, Dudly was worse than Joker in every facet of football and not even close. Jones comes in and turns it around in less time by selling the brand and facilities without the "it takes time to build a program" Ask the Yankees in Michigan football program the same

lol

Are you seriously comparing the coaches playing field at UK to the ones at Thug U and Michigan?

LOL

 

[Freetaxreturn]

lol

Are you seriously comparing the coaches playing field at UK to the ones at Thug U and Michigan?

LOL

Jaukoff11 you make me laugh, keep up the good work !

 

[sluggercatfan]

Same people wanting to get rid of Mark Stoops were same ones wanting to fire Coach Brooks and hire Joker as Head Coach. UK has been through 11 coaches since I started following. Best outlook for future since Fran Curci. Any replacement at this time would set team back, not forward.

Mike Leach wouldn't. ..

 

[ukalum1988]

I think many big blue fans are setting themselves up for disappointment (again). Hope I'm wrong. I agree with everyone who has said that Stoops won't be fired regardless of what happens this year. But I also think Its the climate and environment that's surrounding UK football. Football is the revenue bell cow of every college athletic program.
Recruiting is but one part of the equation. Coaching the "jimmy's and joe's" is another major part of coaching. And I'm not seeing the coaching and development of players with Stoops. In fact, he looks lost sometimes on game day and his clock management at times is atrocious.
UK very well may not pay the buyout and fire Stoops but I think at other universities, where the athletic dept. takes football serious, the administration would pay the buyout, cut their losses and move on. Then again, most other athletic dept. wouldn't have given a contract extension to a coach who has never accomplished anything.
That doesn't change where UK is at now. And I think where they're at now is 5-7. 4-8 if they lose to southern Mississippi. Most coaches and analyst say you should see the most improvement in the third year of a new coaching regime. Well in Stoops 3rd year I saw a team quit against a division rival (Tennessee) and win close games against teams with inferior talent (ULL and EKU) .
The defense will likely be worse this year than last year.

Don't be such a sunshine pumper.

 

[jauk11]

K NCAA

Once you raised Tubman, your credibility went out the window.

How so? Do you think he should have been kicked out of school because UK "might" have been sued later on, why don't we ban all males from school, the only sure fire way to stop the occasional rapes, which happen off campus also, by the way. I wonder how many times she was "raped" before this he say she say incident? Check out her credibility and the evidence some time-----the DA's office did and found it lacking.

Do you really think he wouldn't still be playing if he had gone to Thug U or Transfer U? Do you know how many millions UK has GIVEN academics at UK over the years, and the faculty objected to LOANING some of it back WITH INTEREST for a very vital football improvement, two years overdue, when poor mitch couldn't set aside the money for it in the TEN years when it was scheduled to be replaced when built. How many improvements to the TV in your living room took place in those ten years? And of course you do know that UK charges the athletic program the full out of state tuition for any out of state athlete, don't you, when in the case of football those athletes make UK millions of dollars.

Someone's credibility was lacking in this case, and I think it was the Kangaroo Courts.

 

[jauk11]

Stoops will not be fired because of his contract. But Barney should, when this team doesn't make a bowl game, for giving him that absurd extension in the middle of what turned out to be a 5-7 season.

I am enjoying watching the goalpost-movers now saying this year doesn't matter, it's year FIVE where Stoops will really be judged. It's an admission that you KNOW this year is going to suck.

It just goes on and on.

Of course we all know that it takes twelve years to build a program in the SEC.

What a BS post. Almost every real fan on here expects us to win six or seven this year, read the posts, the trolls are the ones predicting four or five.

 

[jauk11]

My rebuttle to this is my recent post in the other thread responding to yours about point systems. You called OP's post a dumb post and by that I felt like you meant stoops has done way too well for him to be on the hot seat regardless of the buyout. Well at least you agree he hasn't performed well enough to deserve not being on the hot seat and that the buyout forces him here. I'm petty sure (could be wrong) the OP was saying that on a performance basis not really taking stupid contracts that force him here no matter what into consideration. Since obviously everyone knows he'll be here no matter what due to the horribly favorable contract. Glad you agree that his performance thus far sure as hell ain't the reason for him not being on the hot seat and that its all due to terrible contract negotiating by ours truly barny, and without the horrible contract he would be on the hot seat. We agreed on something for once lol.

So you agree he isn't going to get fired this year, so what is your point in dragging him AND our program through the mud at every opportunity? Maybe hurt recruiting a little bit, the only thing I can see your consistently negative posts accomplishing.

I would like to bet all your negativity is going to look stupid when we go bowling this year, back off Francis, don't jump off the bridge yet.

Oh well, in your case, go ahead and jump, there are enough irritating things in the world without you adding to it..

 

[jauk11]

Very likely and not on hot seat? The only reason he isn't on hot seat is because of a ridiculous buyout in his contract that has no business being there. Without that based on his performance he very well is a hot seat-esque coach. 5-14 in last 19 games speaks for itself especially when you factor in zero wins over winning teams and best win (by record) being EKU in a miracle 4th qrtr comeback. I just don't see how you can call that a dumb post when the man is 5-14 in last 19 games without a win over winning team. Is 5-14 in last 19 games considered progression or a sign of a program headed in the right direction or something? Jeez.

Geez, you can't even get the simple facts right, or do you just deliberately make mistakes to try and prove your point?


Our record is 6-13 in our last 19 games.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

K NCAA


How so? Do you think he should have been kicked out of school because UK "might" have been sued later on, why don't we ban all males from school, the only sure fire way to stop the occasional rapes, which happen off campus also, by the way. I wonder how many times she was "raped" before this he say she say incident? Check out her credibility and the evidence some time-----the DA's office did and found it lacking.

Do you really think he wouldn't still be playing if he had gone to Thug U or Transfer U? Do you know how many millions UK has GIVEN academics at UK over the years, and the faculty objected to LOANING some of it back WITH INTEREST for a very vital football improvement, two years overdue, when poor mitch couldn't set aside the money for it in the TEN years when it was scheduled to be replaced when built. How many improvements to the TV in your living room took place in those ten years? And of course you do know that UK charges the athletic program the full out of state tuition for any out of state athlete, don't you, when in the case of football those athletes make UK millions of dollars.

Someone's credibility was lacking in this case, and I think it was the Kangaroo Courts.

I don't think the Athletic Dept had one say it that decision. While I think he should never have been booted, I also think the athletic dept should have NO SAY in such matters. If UT is the bar, you have set it at dangerous levels. If you want to be them, go join them, but don't pull UK down to satisfy some need.

 

[jauk11]

Jaukoff11 you make me laugh, keep up the good work !

You don't make me laugh, you are very irritating and detrimental to intelligent football conversation, what is your purpose on here?

 

[ukalum1988]

What a BS post. Almost every real fan on here expects us to win six or seven this year, read the posts, the trolls are the ones predicting four or five.

All I have to do is hover my mouse pointer over "Show Ignored Content" to see who on my Ignore List has posted. When I see the names (usually the same 2 or 3 posters) I generally don't bother clicking the button to actually see the Ignored Content.

 

[jauk11]

I don't think the Athletic Dept had one say it that decision. While I think he should never have been booted, I also think the athletic dept should have NO SAY in such matters. If UT is the bar, you have set it at dangerous levels. If you want to be them, go join them, but don't pull UK down to satisfy some need.

Show me where I said the athletic department had anything to do with him being kicked out. So you don't think he should have been kicked out but you are OK with it, money talks, doing the right thing for the student athlete doesn't matter?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Show me where I said the athletic department had anything to do with him being kicked out. So you don't think he should have been kicked out but you are OK with it, money talks, doing the right thing for the student athlete doesn't matter?

Show me where I said that?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Show me where I said the athletic department had anything to do with him being kicked out. So you don't think he should have been kicked out but you are OK with it, money talks, doing the right thing for the student athlete doesn't matter?

Why do people keep saying money had anything to do with the Tubman decision? UK fans have touted Title IX, but where has that ever been linked to the panel's decision?

Your post read as if you were critical of the Athletic Dept not standing up for Tubman. Sorry if I misread that.

 

[~Keyser Soze~]

Stoops is here for at least 2 more full seasons..he isn't on the hot seat at all.
Even if we go 5-7 again this year, next season is the year that will decide the future of Stoops.
Hopefully he's here for a long time to come!

2 more full seasons based on what exactly?

 

[Freetaxreturn]

You don't make me laugh, you are very irritating and detrimental to intelligent football conversation, what is your purpose on here?

Jaukoff11, one day you will understand all your nobody is smarter than me posts. Good luck and go cats. You'll get it, just hang in there

 

[skcatfan]

Barring a complete disaster of a season I see no way Stoops isn't here for at least next season also. I think most reasonable fans should expect 6 or 7 wins this year which would create some positive momentum for next year. That's the year we have a chance to make some noise because we'll have a talented and experienced team. That should be the season that ultimately decides Stoops future at UK.

 

[CakeEater]

Still only a couple starters that are seniors on the depth chart. Amazing the job Stoops has done. I think Gran et. al. will put our offense on track. Our D is getting better and Eliot has 3 years under his belt now. The future looks bright for Stoops and UK football.

 

[Freetaxreturn]

You don't make me laugh, you are very irritating and detrimental to intelligent football conversation, what is your purpose on here?

I came to settle the debt for Captain Jack Sparrow.
I hope you get that jaukoff11

 

[~Keyser Soze~]

Yall really think that a program that invested $200 million into the football program and has yearly budget of over $100 million can't afford a $12 million buyout over 3 years?

 

[skcatfan]

Yall really think that a program that invested $200 million into the football program and has yearly budget of over $100 million can't afford a $12 million buyout over 3 years?

If the football program was headed off a cliff like it was when Joker was the coach, I have no doubt that Barnhart would cough up 12 million to stop the bleeding. But we haven't reached that point with Stoops and I hope we don't. 5 wins a season isn't what the fan base wants but it's a big improvement over 2-10 seasons. If he can't get it done in the next two years then yes it's time for a change imo.

 

[screwduke1]

Quoting yourself in every thread you post in is not only really weird, it also makes it difficult to take anything you say serious.

I agree

 

[screwduke1]

I agree

I also agree.

 

[Bryo72]

Hey Andrel....if Stoops and the football team, don't get to a bowl this year...Louisville has a new bridge and you can join their ball fan base visiting this "way cool bridge" when Calipari and

Quoting yourself in every thread you post in is not only really weird, it also makes it difficult to take anything you say serious.

Try I try....stop commenting then...

 

[Bryo72]

I know you're being facetious Prime, but that screenshot should end any and all discussion about how long it takes a coach to build a contender at an historically terrible SEC East school. But it won't.

Look at Vandy's record the two years prior to Franklin. Then look at the two years after Franklin. If Derek Mason gives Vandy a better record this year than Mark Stoops does here, Stoops should immediately be chased off the campus a la Clyde, and our endless search should begin anew.

Ok fine!!! What's "facetious?" Just saying....

 

[BluTide]

I would have to look but since coach "YHATZEE" has taken over I would think that over the last 4 years we've out recruited the likes of Southern Mississippi, New Mexico State, Missouri, Vandy, Austin Peay & South Carolina. By ranking average you can include Mississippi State and Louisville. That's 7 wins if he coaches them up.

 

[sluggercatfan]

I know you're being facetious Prime, but that screenshot should end any and all discussion about how long it takes a coach to build a contender at an historically terrible SEC East school. But it won't.

Look at Vandy's record the two years prior to Franklin. Then look at the two years after Franklin. If Derek Mason gives Vandy a better record this year than Mark Stoops does here, Stoops should immediately be chased off the campus a la Clyde, and our endless search should begin anew.

Dan Mullen @ Miss St...UK has not beaten them since he has been there and he has been to a bowl game every season

 

[Catswin9]

Quit reading this thread after this comment. You are officially an idiot.

The Jerry Claiborne era is a good example to consider.

 

[gobigblue812]

If you don't want to accept the fact that KY and TN were in the exact same miserable boat during that time that's fine. What you can't deny is he has taking them back to prominence while we stay where we always have been. I'm praying we get to a bowl any bowl it can only help.

"Back to prominence" UK has never been prominent. Thanks for explaining to everybody why your entire take is bogus.

 

[BluTide]

I'll take the Claiborne era in a heartbeat. Always respectable on defense and 6 wins frequently. And that's when they played 11 games and there wasn't a zillion bowl games.
It starts with defense and defense is suppose to be coach YHATZEE's specialty. Regardless of what many people think, I think winning football can be played consistently at UK. There are to many other teams comparable to UK that have had sustained success. I don't think coach stoops is the man for the job. Hope I'm wrong. This season should tell us a lot.

 

[GoCatsForever2k15]

I know you're being facetious Prime, but that screenshot should end any and all discussion about how long it takes a coach to build a contender at an historically terrible SEC East school. But it won't.

Look at Vandy's record the two years prior to Franklin. Then look at the two years after Franklin. If Derek Mason gives Vandy a better record this year than Mark Stoops does here, Stoops should immediately be chased off the campus a la Clyde, and our endless search should begin anew.

One coach doing it that quickly doesn't mean it's a reasonable standard to hold all coaches to.

 

[ThePhoenix]

Lol at Bama is the measuring stick. Do you not realize how insane that sounds? That would be like a Miss State basketball fan saying KY basketball is their measuring stick, and they would get laughed out of every room.

He's not on the hot seat, and he won't be (nor should he be) until at the very minimum after next season. I think I counted only 6 seniors in the 2 deep on both sides of the ball. Should and probably will do some good things this year and next.

 

[reflaine]

Mullen did not go to a bowl every single season as they finished 5-7 that year.

One little tidbit on miss st. I'll list the out of conference schedule since mullin got to Starkville

2009. Jackson state, Georgia tech (L), Houston middle ten.
2010 Memphis, Alcorn st, Houston UAB
2011 Jackson state, La tech, UAB, Ut Martin
2012 jackson st, Troy, south Alabama, middle ten
2013 ok state (L), Alcorn st, Troy, bowling green
2014 southern miss, UAB, South Alabama, Ut Martin
2015 a southern miss, northwestern state, Troy , la tech

Dan mullin has played 2, yes 2 teams in the non conference that didn't come from a power five. He also lost both of t. hose. His scheduling is why sec are now requiring teams to play at least one power five school each year. While our fans want us to improve our schedule and add a power five team to make schedule more interesting on top of Louisville and complain in same breathe we don't make enough bowls.

 

[BluTide]

Miss state and Dan Mullen will beat UK again this year

 

[BluTide]

If UK wins 4 games or less is there a chance they will fire Stoops ?

 

[GoCatsForever2k15]

If UK wins 4 games or less is there a chance they will fire Stoops ?

There's always a chance, but 4 games or less seems fairly unlikely.

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

Using the OP's logic every SEC basketball coach is on the hot seat as well.
The reality is that UK football will probably never be able to match up well with Alabama on the football field. That's not to say that at some point we won't pull an upset or steal a victory. But, that isn't success.
Not many programs have had luck against Bama lately. Why not set the bar a bit lower and just aim to make a decent bowl every year?