Who would you pick as the best player to ever play at Kentucky
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KAT is one of the most overrated players in the NBA.
He’s basically a taller version of Antoine Walker.
Awful bball IQ, terrible shot selection, and commits more boneheaded fouls than anyone in the league.
Could be all world if he pulled his out of his a$$ but is mostly just downright infuriating to watch.
Actually it isn’t an opinion at all. In fact, NBA title winners aren't officially recognized as world title winners anywhere except in people’s minds. Sorry. What you posted is an opinion and what I posted is FACT.
AD is the greatest I’ve ever seen. I wasn’t alive to see Issel, but seeing as 75% of UK fans on here are saying Issel I’ll have to believe them. Sure he never won a title but in the 70s that was pretty much impossible if you weren’t UCLA.
Not only was it actually branded that by the league between 1950 and 1985 (meaning Hagan, Ramsey and Robey literally were) they’ve continued to call the winner of the finals that ever since.
Best players in the world = World Champion
Now take your anti-American cuckery somewhere else. Nobody cares that you’re angry about a professional league’s marketing and its widely adopted use.
Some have said that they didn’t think Issel could compete with modern players but I disagree. To do what he did without all of the modern advantages of training, nutrition, rehab and medical that modern players have is incredible. Also, the most important things that Issel had over present players is heart and a drive to succeed. He was just plain tough.
Also, basketball is relatively young game and players learn from those before them. For anybody to think somebody like Issel would have the exact same game if he came along today is very narrow minded. If Issel came along today he'd have more muscles, more ball handling ability, and longer shooting range. Smart players didn't practice shooting from 24 feet when it was worth 2 points; then it was a bad shot that would just get the shooter a spot on the bench.
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I was born in 78 so I didn't see him personally but know my Wildcats program. Hard to not say Big Dan Issel for college career.
since is summer, her is another article about how great Alex Groza was.
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It’s crazy what numbers he was putting in his first two and only years in NBA especially during those times. The comparison of his potential to be on par if not greater than George Mikan, shows how great Groza was.
Alex Groza
Born: October 7, 1926 Died: January 21, 1995 Position: Center Professional Career Indianapolis Oympians (NBA): 1949-’51 Alex Groza was bona fide, qualified and without a shadow of a doubt Hal…
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It’s crazy what numbers he was putting in his first two and only years in NBA especially during those times. The comparison of his potential to be on par if not greater than George Mikan, shows how great Groza was.
I can't look it up right now but I believe Groza averaged 15 or 19 points one year in college when teams rarely scored over 40. That would probably translate to 30+ points in modern ball.since is summer, her is another article about how great Alex Groza was.
Alex Groza
Born: October 7, 1926 Died: January 21, 1995 Position: Center Professional Career Indianapolis Oympians (NBA): 1949-’51 Alex Groza was bona fide, qualified and without a shadow of a doubt Hal…
It’s crazy what numbers he was putting in his first two and only years in NBA especially during those times. The comparison of his potential to be on par if not greater than George Mikan, shows how great Groza was.
In 1949, Groza’s senior season, the Wildcats went 32-2 and again captured the national title. Without the services of Rollins, who had graduated, Groza stepped up his performance dramatically that season averaging 20.5 points and upped that impressive number to 27 during the NCAA tournament. He was named the Final Four’s Most Outstanding Player for the second consecutive season.
The Olympians of Groza and Beard played the Lakers of George Mikan:
In Game 1, Minneapolis throttled the Olympians 95 to 81. Groza scored a “measly” 19 points. For Game 2, Alex struck back with a fury. He pasted the Lakers for 40 points as Indianapolis ran away with the game 108-88. Opposing center George Mikan, battling through a leg injury, managed just 2 points. For the deciding Game 3, Groza again came up huge with 38 points. Mikan, however, returned to form with 30 and the Lakers edged out the Olympians 85 to 80. That was the last basketball game Groza played in the NBA.
In Game 1, Minneapolis throttled the Olympians 95 to 81. Groza scored a “measly” 19 points. For Game 2, Alex struck back with a fury. He pasted the Lakers for 40 points as Indianapolis ran away with the game 108-88. Opposing center George Mikan, battling through a leg injury, managed just 2 points. For the deciding Game 3, Groza again came up huge with 38 points. Mikan, however, returned to form with 30 and the Lakers edged out the Olympians 85 to 80. That was the last basketball game Groza played in the NBA.
Issel. Big Dan was as Kentucky as a college basketball player ever gets. I hate it that they were out coached in the NCAA finals but we have to admit Rupp was simply out coached by Haskins. That one game served as the most important game of all time. As for Big Dan, I remember the epic wars with LSU and the pistol. I loved those days. I loved Pistol Pete but more importantly I believed in Issel and there wasn’t any other player in college basketball, at that time, that did more for his team. At 6’8” he was a beast.
Thanks for sharing this. I knew little of Groza's career at UK and nothing of his pro yearssince is summer, her is another article about how great Alex Groza was.
Alex Groza
Born: October 7, 1926 Died: January 21, 1995 Position: Center Professional Career Indianapolis Oympians (NBA): 1949-’51 Alex Groza was bona fide, qualified and without a shadow of a doubt Hal…
It’s crazy what numbers he was putting in his first two and only years in NBA especially during those times. The comparison of his potential to be on par if not greater than George Mikan, shows how great Groza was.
I have been following since 1959. Love those guys but you are way off base.
lol. Dear Lord. Did u ever see Issel play. Davis was only there for one year. Oscar and Wall don’t even merit honorable mention.
That is not what the thread is about. We are not transporting players. It’s the best player, period. That would be Dan Issel.
Piss off, Don. You're not even sharp enough to understand that your opinions are only opinions. Keep them to yourself if you can't play nice about them.
You piss off. You are just a kid. You can’t compare these guys to Dan because you never saw him play. I have seen them all and he is hands down the best. Grow up. Yes it’s my opinion but it’s also 1000’s of other uk fans opinion too. His records speak for themselves.
No. But I trust that Dan Issel wasn’t the best player in college basketball in 69 or 70. That was Pistol Pete according to a lot of people who were not Kentucky fans. As fans, we are biased. Issel has excellent stats and deserves respect as a legend but he didn’t win NPOY once, didn’t win a single title and didn’t even make a single Final Four. To me, those things matter. If they don’t to you, I understand.
We are talking about the best player in UK history. Pete went to LSU and I loved him. He was fabulous and was the best in college basketball. Dan was UK’s best ever.
For me, it’s Issel and yes, I saw him play. His 27K points and 11K rebounds over his pro career speaks volumes to the player he was. Maravich was more entertaining, but not the player Issel was.
No disrespect but to be the “greatest” in any sport, whether it’s NBA or NCAA, I think it’s fair to say winning is what matters most. Many will start and end with stats to say LeBron, for example, is better than Jordan. I try to remain consistent that MJ is the greater player because winning matters more. Same logic here. I can’t say Issel without a Final Four. 33 points per game is eye popping, jaw dropping, etc but he had good teammates like Pratt, Steele and Casey. Still never in the three years made a Final Four. Will apply the same standards to anyone in this conversation from now on. It’s fair to use objective awards rather than simply comparing stats. That’s why, to me, I witnessed Jodie Meeks be a weapon — he’s still not greater, to me, than a Tony Delk.
Pistol Pete was maybe the most spectacular offensive player I've ever seen but if I was choosing between him and Issel to start a team I'd pick Big Dan. Pete didn't play a lot of defense.
Anybody that says that Dan Issel wouldn't be a star today is just showing how basketball ignorant that they are. If you don't believe that Issel would be a star today. Then I suggest that you ask Kareem Abdul-Jabbar arguably the greatest big man to ever play the game about how great that Issel was. Jabbar has said that he hated playing against Dan Issel more that any center that he ever played against..... NUFF SAID!!!
I gotta go Issel.
Upon Issel's retirement from the NBA in 1985, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and Julius Erving were the only professional basketball players to have scored more career points.
Upon Issel's retirement from the NBA in 1985, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and Julius Erving were the only professional basketball players to have scored more career points.
The best I’ve ever seen was Anthony Davis. By a mile.
The best player I ever heard of from those in my circles that they did see was Goose.
Neither me nor those in my circles saw Dan Issel play. Neither of my parents were even teenagers when he played at UK and neither of them had a tv. Also, neither of them became UK fans until they attended UK since none of my grandparents even went to college.
The best player I ever heard of from those in my circles that they did see was Goose.
Neither me nor those in my circles saw Dan Issel play. Neither of my parents were even teenagers when he played at UK and neither of them had a tv. Also, neither of them became UK fans until they attended UK since none of my grandparents even went to college.
I watched Issel. The guy was an aggressive beast. Most games unstoppable and made it look easy. The only player close was AD.
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