Who is our next OC?
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I think that's the argument for a CMS to modernize his offensive philosophy and turn things over to someone who's going with a bit more creative and aggressive.
We're always going to be at a disadvantage in the talent department. Grind ball, clock watching, and running backs averaging 5-6 yards a pop really has a ceiling and we have a pretty good sample size of 12 years on how high that ceiling is.
A less talented team needs shots on goal, so to speak, not only literally on goal but in general just moving chains.
Would agree with the poster who mentioned TEs. That would go a long way in helping things.
Why CMS has historically not involved them more in the passing game is absolutely flabbergasting.
A TE is essentially a cheat code. Take a 6'5 240-250+ athlete and have him beeline for a 5'10 185 DB... just play the odds-on jump balls.
We saw that ceiling being 10 wins and all but one loss that season without our grasp.
In terms of creativity, you don't get much more creative than some of those run packages we had. Now everyone has that toss/QB dive rpo package that we unveiovs Florida. Bama even ran it this last season. We had a completely unique offense created mid season for a wr to run the option.
I get that our fans just don't like running the ball. Just say that rather than pretend we didn't 1) win alot of games that way and 2) have an innovative offense
Sounds exactly like Eddie Gran to me, which I'm fine with. People conveniently forget barker had about 350 yards the first half of the first game then broke his back. Or that an had some very nice games. Even Terry had nice games preinjury, he was just wildly inconsistent.
I'm all for it. I just think it's hilarious seeing fans get excited about a repackaged younger version of a guy they can't stand and ran off
It’s hard to throw to the TE’s end they spend 70% time helping the O line block due to their inability to protect the QB
Wasn’t Milroe benched for that game?
I watched every game..... I thought Bama was pretty good.... just a difference of opinion
yes Bucker and simpson played.. Milroe was getting his head together, and Rees moved him to the sideline for a game... or Saban..lol.. I thought it worked out pretty well... but some disagree...
In the title game he called wasaaaay too many drop backs when it was clear 1) Milton wasn't seeing the field at all and 2) QB power was killing Michigan
I believe he was benched/suspended to see how he handled himself in practice & on the sidelines. Think he responded well.
I know the TE's have to block some, but you'll never convince me that a competent OC can't draw up some plays for the TE's.
EG is a victim of circumstance, a circumstance that he handled masterfully imo. It just hurt the perception to the skill players that we were just a power run team. In reality EG worked with what he had and that was his undoing, that and keeping that goofy looking hinshaw around as QB coach
Id be willing to bet that with our roster right now EG could do some impressive stuff, fans as a whole would jump off the bridge as fair or unfair as it is. At least EG would maximize his players instead of beating a square peg into a round hole (Scang, Coen at times).
Why must coaches insist that players execute their offense if it fits them or not. Id much rather have a OC willing to help his guys out with what they do best and employ concepts that fit our strengths.
So, getting back on track. Whom does BBN relish more, Rees or Faulkner? Both are relatively new at their jobs, seeing how Coen is getting roasted for leaving after a year, we would do the same to another team. Which has more potential and upside? IMHO Rees would be more apt to jump ship from Cleveland and return as an OC in the SEC. However, coaching UK's offense is not the same as coaching Bama's offense. Faulkner, a lateral move for him, but likely a bump in pay. He apparently did well at GT, and should have more resources to utilize at UK. Will it be one of these 2? Or does Stoops have an outlier up his sleeve. It's late in the coaching carousel to be playing this game...
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Hopefully names will start cropping up this week and we get an idea of what direction UK will be moving.
1 non UK media guy said last wk it could be Rees, Bruce Feldman says Faulkner could be the candidate. Hopefully some news on the search comes out early this wk, we can find out if other names are involved.
We won 10 games with Liam Coen and a real deal pro system/passing game and QB too...without an all-time DE and pretty good all-around defense that EG and his running wildcat packages had. That squad had Austin McGinnis all time kicker to squeak out tight games too. I'm not sure offensive prowess was the catalyst of that team and season.
Give LC and Will Levis a few more possessions via defensive stops as well as an all-timer kicker, and it may have been an 11-12 win season.
More like a lesbian trapped in a man's body, maybe.
Or if coen gave that defense waaaaaay fewer turnovers that defense looks on par.
Same this with our defense this year, right down to the bowl game where offense gave away the comfy lead with three straight turnovers deep on our side of the field. Defense was gassed and injured at the end.
And our kicker this year was pretty great. I recall the Gran 10 win season we had a kicker that didn't have the leg to hit a very modest FG vs a&m that made the difference.
Go look at our record in one score games. With coen, we completely reversed the trend where we were awesome. That isn't by happenstance.
To tie it back more to the topic, UK fans need to let go of this need to be entertained and swoon over the charismatic oc. Charisma doesn't go on the scoreboard otherwise coen would be undefeated. Running the ball wins games. Always has, always will.
Good team for CFB in 2023. Not a top 10 Saban team.
I don't see why those two are on track unless one is selected. Will that for sure happen?
On3 national guy speculates the candidates are Rees & Faulkner, along with Scott Johns & Morehead
Honestly I'd be very happy with any of those 4
Honestly I'd be very happy with any of those 4
Like all these but Morehead. To me Rees the safest. Then Faulkner and Johns after him.
Who is Scott Johns and why is the only thing i can find on him is that he is the founder of Magic the Gathering?
Bro we gotta have that guy to work his magic with the offense!
That's the game Vandagriff plays in his free time and Johns is one of the bigtime players in the game.
Just kidding.
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Took a look at the GT site and they are well aware of the talk of UK and Faulkner. I don't know who actually knows anything on that site, but they said he wasn't interested in going anywhere until his son graduated HS, sound familiar? And then their site writer chimed in that ND contacted him about interviewing for a position, I assume OC, and he turned down the interview. But that guy is a homer so I would take that with a grain of salt. I think he got a big raise, over 1m, but not approaching what Coen was getting, according to the Tech site. Thats all i got.
Not feeling he or Rees. Giants hired Rees as TE coach, now he's listed as "TE Coach and passing game coordinator" so they've bumped him. Rams psg Jake Peetz is my dark horse.
If yall paying 1.8m BoBo might be interested, almost twice what he is getting in Athens. Of course I think he is collecting from 3 other places for being fired.
I don't know about that, GT has some extremely wealthy boosters, but many of them are not Americans or American football fans. I know a couple of their alumni and they have high 6 figure salaries, well high to me, over half way to a million, but they can't donate like the mega rich boosters can. Like every fan base some say they can match any amount anyone offers, and could if their alumni cared about American football, but others say if Stoops offers anywhere close to 1.8 he is gone. Just my guess, if he is your guy, and CMS offers and says 1.4 is the salary he is UK's new OC. That's just guessing and no info from anywhere other than they are not big spenders generally.
How does his coaching style philosophy square with Saunders?
Thanks, I looked and GT’s HC Keys is the lowest paid HC in the ACC at 2.8 million. Good chance they might not be willing to go very high to keep Faulkner. I got a feeling UK will make an offer because he checks all the boxes. Kirby and Stoops have been talking no doubt and Stoops I’m sure respects his opinion. Just my thoughts and nothing more.
One thing on that is the alumni base isn't real big football fans. I'm not sure they have the money you'd think.
Peetz was OC for Orgeron's final season in LSU. I'll pass.
And it's KEVIN Johns, not Scott. He was OC at Duke.
I don’t know why people think ex players will be great coaches??? Coaching is completely different than playing. Lots of great coaches never played at a high level. Also Couch is loaded with cash, in great shape with a stupid hot wife. Why take a 15 hour a day job???
I hated seeing him leave, quite a few thought he was training to be Monken's successor. May have been if he hadn't already taken the GT job. But Bobo was back and got his old job back. FWIW, Faulkner was the QB coach while Stetson was there, he just couldn't be on the field.
I said Peetz is a dark horse, very unlikely he'd be the choice however if Stoops wants to go with what Coen has established Peetz may get a look, that's just a guess based on nothing concrete.
Know nothing about Johns.
