What was the justification for making Kentucky a six-class state for HS FB?
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The state needs to go to five classes plus privates only. 5 classes is a perfect number for what this state has. Belfry won a title this year with the easiest playoff road I’ve ever seen.
let the 8 or so privates battle it out like Tennessee does and then do five classes for the rest of the state
let the 8 or so privates battle it out like Tennessee does and then do five classes for the rest of the state
The state of Georgia dropped down from 7 classes, 8 if you count private schools, to 6 us the private schools. 7A was mostly reserved for the schools very near 2k+ kids. But in south GA it created some long road trips. So the state legislation passed a bill if there was a region game that was over 75 miles away the GHSA had to foot the bill. So we went back to 6 classes. May be schools with 4500 kids in same region with schools with 1500 kids now.
I think KY should go to 4 public classes. Almost have to do 2 private. There are so few private schools in the state and so many are really tiny and have no business in the same division as X, Trinity, CovCath, etc...but nonetheless I do think it is time to break up the public and private division post seasons. I do think Tennessee has a good model for how to go about it, Ky just has to plug in the right number of divisions.
Basketball can hang tight for now but I also think it's time to go classes in baseball. Just not as many as FB. Go 2-3 public classes and 1 private.
Male is pulling close to both of them. Until last couple of years , X had really been down in FB.
Wow. This is an old thread. Male, I believe, has 9 state championships since 1959. Trinity has about 26. Pulling close.
Yea, I don’t think anybody is gonna care about privates that have it tough. Whether your 29 boys or 2000 in a school, all privates should be classed together or it will look ridiculous like Tennessee where privates play in 3 different classes and some of them only have a few teams. Just make it all one and I’m fine with 4 or 5 classes but 5 seems to be the better fit for public schools.
Of course I’m thinking as someone who is thinking of 20 years ago. With todays new world of go ahead and recruit away, I don’t think anyone cares anymore. A lot of schools would be better off forgetting about state classes and just okay for conference titles and get out of the whole state thing.
same teams are always winning anyways
Actually I bothered to go look and there aren't enough private schools to even have two divisions. I only found the following schools playing football:
Sayre
Ky Country Day
LCA
Owensboro Cath
CAL
DeSales
LexCath
CovCath
St X
Trinity
That's 10 schools. Maybe I missed one or two but that doesn't change anything.
The Tenn private divisions have 20 teams in the bottom 2 divisions but only 10 in the large class. But that division is big boy kind of football.
Haven’t read any responses but KY has so many counties compare to other states is a huge factor.
CAL is Christian Academy of Louisville.
New Cath does play football. Both Holy Cross’s play as does Betlehem. .
St. X hasn't been in the Championship since 2017 and has only been in the Championship game 3 times since they went to 6 classes in 2007. Male has arguably been the second most dominant team in the state the past 8-10 years or so
Should there be a separate public school division for the public schools that recruit? Male, Bowling Green, Fort Thomas, Belfry, Frederick Douglas, etc.
There’s a couple more, but you definitely see the conundrum. One division. That’s all they need. I wouldn’t want to put any more effort into it than that anyways. they’re getting ready to build that trinity school in Lexington and I’m wondering how or what type of school it will be and what sports they’ll have
Don't stop there...it goes beyond to everyone that can generate interest. These days kids consolidate and go where they can. I'm not against competition, I am for it. No real problem with recruiting either. If someone wants to go somewhere else just move districts or many schools now have some version or capped level of open enrollment. But it would actually free up private schools to do whatever they wanted to do on the tuition end of things. And what good does it even make some of these places feel to just walk out and play jv type varsity teams. Example, LCA playing washington co etc in district..isn't good for either group of kids.
Lets just say that under the new Admin at St. X that they are "trying harder."
Is this what you are alluding to about trying harder ? Maybe St X decided to start a High School NIL collective?
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Tuesday evening Pollio met with JCPS athletic directors and principals to discuss recruiting concerns. Eight eighth grade students that attended the new W.E.B. DuBois Academy opted to attend St. X, rather than stay with school through their high school years. All eight are talented football players. Pollio filed a formal complaint to the KHSAA for illegal contact between St. X and the middle school students.
“I was a little taken aback by how open some of the conversations were between coaching staff and players,” the JCPS superintendent told Courier Journal reporter Jason Frakes.
They're big mad they spent all that money to build a school for minorities, yet the ones capable are still going to traditional private schools...
And that upsets them.
This has gone on for years and nobody cared.
Lets just say that the new Principal and the AD and the Football program are more open to "reaching out" to more diverse "communities" and providing total financial assistance if necessary. That is not something they had done under the prior regimes. I will say that the states flagship institution Trinity does not provide full tuition financial aid.
We have six classes in AZ... 6A has 24 teams, (schools over 1000)
our local HS...Boulder Creek
BCHS has less than 80 kids between V and JV... but our student population is over 2000. That is ridiculous...
Somehow, we usually finish around just over .500 and make the playoffs. Top 16 teams go to playoffs
We also have "the open" which takes the very best top 4 teams, usually 3 6A schools and 1 5A school.
our local HS...Boulder Creek
BCHS has less than 80 kids between V and JV... but our student population is over 2000. That is ridiculous...
Somehow, we usually finish around just over .500 and make the playoffs. Top 16 teams go to playoffs
We also have "the open" which takes the very best top 4 teams, usually 3 6A schools and 1 5A school.
Trinity and StX provide an education and experience that most public schools in Louisville cannot replicate. I don’t care what magnet program or special academics Polio can try to deliver, it just will never be on par with what is happening at StX and Trinity. It is more than just the academics at these two schools, it is the entire experience and the connections that are made. They don’t have to recruit because any parent that is seeking superb academics and excellent athletics is going to see both StX and Trinity are providing a great product. The same goes for Cov Cath. While Beechwood up the road is an excellent school it simply can’t go toe to toe with Cov Cath on all merits. These larger private schools are very attractive for a lot of different reasons.
I don’t know anything about NKY schools so won’t comment on that but you are spot on about Privates around Louisville.
What the provide in the classroom and on the athletic fields can not be topped.
Most parents want the best for their children. In the Louisville area there is a HUGE chasm between public and private education.
Public schools recruit.
In the Louisville area, if your coaches are not recruiting, you are doing it wrong.
Everyone thinks “recruiting “ is a bad term.
Is showing off the positive aspects of your school wrong? Is showing parents how their child is going to get to and from games and practices wrong?
Schools compete for students. That is FACT. So why wouldn’t ANY school want to show off what they have to offer.
What better recruiting tool is FREE education. Trinity is $15K. THS has a huge disadvantage in recruiting...with the exception being Govt Run schools are horrible and harmful. That is why "everyone" in Jefferson County either flees to Oldham County or figures how to spend $15k for tuition. More like $6K for grade schools. Its pathetic that the Govt schools are so horribly mismanaged and sold out to the unions rather than the students and the parents.
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