thanks for the heads up, that’s good though he should be well versed in the concepts. Crazy how those Washington teams weren’t really that good but have spawned a ton of talented coaches
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thanks for the heads up, that’s good though he should be well versed in the concepts. Crazy how those Washington teams weren’t really that good but have spawned a ton of talented coaches
"Ew, I don't like that this guy goes job to job every year or every couple of years"
Tell us you don't have a clue of the life of career assistant football coaches without telling us you don't have a clue of the life of career assistant football coaches
Tell us you don't have a clue of the life of career assistant football coaches without telling us you don't have a clue of the life of career assistant football coaches
Didn't mean to be a dick there - obviously MvVay has really carved out his own path in LA - but Shanahan has been around awhile. I think you can almost lump Sean and Kyle together. Which is good for UK. I like this hire.
DAN FREAKING SNYDER
All valid points but when someone is billed as a QB guru his QBs should be showing significant growth. For such a billing he should have the demonstrated history of performance. He just doesn't have it.
Could it be he's always saddled with bad projects? Possibly. But I'm unaware of any of his QB that showed significant growth
Kinda resembles Shawn Dawson? I won't hold it against him.
Jimmy G has the 2nd best road winning percentage in NFL history, has been to a Super Bowl and and NFC Champ game. The chances of Levis duplicating that have to be 100-1 or worse.
So you're saying there is a chance?
Yes! But not 100-1. Probably closer to a million-1.
It's good to use it but they had to because of Garrapolo's arm...or lack of it. Downside of no arm is it limits parts of the field that can be used. That's why James Whalen caught 1000 balls with Bonner that one season.
If you haven’t been fired in the NFL, your coaching status should be questioned?
We have grown men questioning a hire of an NFL coach that maybe hasn’t stuck around an organization for years, but, continues to lands NFL jobs.. something doesn’t add up
Well the 49ers ranked 7th in offense in the NFL and one of the very best balanced offensive teams. Took some kind of group coaching to achieve that. Like it that we are keeping it balanced on offense in this league.
I agree, to be a guru one would think there are examples of such. I don't know him, I'm honestly not sure what his track record is. With quarterbacks it's tough to gauge things IMO. When you get past serviceable, there are traits that the really good ones have, that the others don't. It's why I was slow to get on the Levis bandwagon during the summer, having a big arm means little when you throw to the wrong jersey. I'm assuming Yenser and Coen gave good feedback before CMS pulled the trigger.
It's a shame Stoops didn't come onto the Lair and ask the arm-chair coaches who he should hire. If he did that, we probably wouldn't have hired Coen.
His year in Denver he had Drew Lock
They fired Scangarello, and Drew Lock entered the next season as the toast of the NFL. We haven't heard a good thing from him sense. That seems like a guy who maximized Drew Locks potential.
But in the end the NFL is a QB league. You can't guru someone to being a great NFL QB, they either have it or they don't. College is different and we will see if Levis can become what we hope he can.
The one example I would give would be drew lock. He didn't start until the end of his rookie year but when he did he looked really good and rattled off a 5-1 record.
They fired Scangarello, and Drew Lock entered the next season as the toast of the NFL. We haven't heard a good thing from him sense. That seems like a guy who maximized Drew Locks potential.
But in the end the NFL is a QB league. You can't guru someone to being a great NFL QB, they either have it or they don't. College is different and we will see if Levis can become what we hope he can.
not at all, appreciate the info. It should be a good hire, as it seems he's gotta know the offense well. I won't hiold Denver against him, and honestly I think he got more out Garrapallo than I'd expect (not a Jimmy G fan)
This seems like a good hire to me. The new OC pretty much had to be a QB coach too, so that box was checked. And he is very familiar with the offense we run, so that box is checked. He's experienced and should know what he's doing. And perhaps the biggest reason for my optimism is that the people who know the most (Stoops, Coen, other staff members and current and former players) seem to be really happy with the hire.
Yeah, go back and reread the Coen introduction thread. Many here were Debbie Downers on that hire.
Yeah clearly we should have instead hired Arkansas TE coach or the guy who has only worked for his brother at Purdue
He was qb coach at Denver not
I like the hire and someone his age. He may stay a while at UK. Hire a young OC and you would have another Coen and be leaving in a year or two.
wiki says OC for Broncos. Either way, if you’re stuck with broken joe flacco and drew lock, I’m not holding it against you that nothing much was accomplished.
lmao @ Jimmy G being good in New England. Like the other backups there. He didn't get worse at the 49ers he just got to play full seasons.
Noticed that he did make teams better.
2011 Northern Arizona was 4-7. Then he was hired as offensive coordinator.
8-3, 9-3, 7-5. When he left they promoted the WR coach to take his place.
2015 Wagner was 1-10. Then he was hired as coordinator.
Next year went 6-5.
He left and they hired wunderkind Rob Callabrese everyone loves.
Wagner dropped to 4-7.
Shanahan has worked with him 3 different times. So must like something about him.
I don't know if the position got better. But I don't expect a dropoff.
2011 Northern Arizona was 4-7. Then he was hired as offensive coordinator.
8-3, 9-3, 7-5. When he left they promoted the WR coach to take his place.
2015 Wagner was 1-10. Then he was hired as coordinator.
Next year went 6-5.
He left and they hired wunderkind Rob Callabrese everyone loves.
Wagner dropped to 4-7.
Shanahan has worked with him 3 different times. So must like something about him.
I don't know if the position got better. But I don't expect a dropoff.
I see a lot of knuckleheads commenting here, who apparently moonlight as football coach headhunters.
Dude went 4-1 as OC with Drew Lock as qb...got axed bc Denver FO is incompetent and look what lock and the broncos offense is now. Don't think Scangarello is a scrub at all.
Your new OC has had success, but replacing Coen who was successful at UK has fans concerned. But keep getting hired by NFL teams after being fired by one shouldn't be used as any kind of measuring stick. Once you are in the club of NFL coaches you keep getting jobs.
Score of the hire is 5 of 10. I've read and heard about 49er coaches and people not caring at this guy's gone. They didn't even like him. And he's had some bad seasons and been fired at other places. I'm sorry they could have did better and I don't have a lot of faith in this guy. The hire is blah
The truth is UK football doesnt eat first.
We're on the rise but the football world isnt as high on UK football as some of the fanbase.
Im sure Bama, LSU, or Georgia fans would get a good chuckle that some UK fans think the Niners QB coach is not up to UK "standards".
All these guys mentioned for the job would have had a tongue in cheek thanks but no thanks for Joker.
I'll go with Stoops made a good hire until proven wrong on the field.
We don't eat first which is why we need a creative approach. Major kudos for stoops going that route with coen and white.
In one season we propelled coen to one of the hottest names in the NFL. On paper we should've been able to do way better than this guy, an Arkansas te coach, or an LSU passing game coach. It's just hard to believe that's the best we had to choose from. Very disappointing.
I think they key to the hire was to keep the system largely intact especially given the late date. To that point it's a B+ hire.
Everything else will just have to wait and see. All my remarks are solely based by what's on paper which is a reflection of demonstrated performance from previous stops.
And your post is even more blah.
The other factor that I think made it a harder task than we know for Stoops is he has to look for guys that he thinks may have some ability/want to stick around a little while at least to provide some stability and continuity.
Think that played into our new OL coach and why he feels so good about that with his Kentucky connections. And he may have gotten the same vibe from this guy in talking with him that made a difference.
Stoos knows that stability has played a big part in what we’ve accomplished so far and he knows it’s a critical time for us to take the next step and needs some continuity.
A lot of Dolphin fans said the same thing to Saban a while back. And Lou Holtz was a perennial loser in the league too. There’s a ton of these examples.
not belittling your point I get it and admit don’t like hearing those comments either but just think it’s hard to draw any parallels between what happens in the league and college ball. Two different sports to me
