I hadn't thought about that. You might be right. It might be the biggest break UK ever got in football. If not the biggest, then it's got to be darn close to it.
Was Jackson's fumble ....
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I hold that the biggest break we've ever received was the "no call" on interference on Stevie Johnson's OT TD against LSU in 2007. The route was one continuous chicken fight until SJ shoved the defender (who was holding him as I recall) at his break to the back pylon. He almost fell down coming out of the contact with the DB. Anytime I start to give in to SEC officiating conspiracy theory, I think of that play. We caught a break on that play, the official basically sitting the play out because both players were all over one another.
Yeah, I heard that but I still don't get the "read" angle. "Read" (at least to me) implies you either "read" the defensive set and automatically go to a play option designed to attack that set or you leave 1 guy unblocked and attack that player with some kind of give or keep decision. I just do not see that.
Cards are in a "double wing" pistol set and the Cats in a 5-2 front. In a pistol set the QB must open up to one side or the other to mesh with the RB so any "read" must be a player on the side to which he opens (on this play, to his left). This type of action is more like the old triple option playbook where every option read (dive, keep, pitch) was sequential and on one side of the defense.
Jackson opens left and meshes with the RB. He cannot see the back side so any read is on the side to which he opened. On snap both wings flow left but neither engages the force player (OLB/DE #41)on that side and no one engages the ILB (#51) on that side. So Jackson pulls the ball and runs straight into not one but 2 unblocked defenders? No matter how good you are you cannot "read" 2 defenders at the point of attack.
The play strikes me as a "give the ball and carry out your fake" play rather than a true "read" type play. To that end, the backside (the right) was well blocked and a running lane appeared to be opening. Or maybe there were multiple blocking errors against a very standard defensive alignment. IDK. I'll ask Petrino the next time I see him!
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I saw the Favre pass and other than the bounce off the helmet of the DB aspect it was "just another shocking last play of the game loss", not unlike the Bluegrass Miracle win for LSU in 2002. But the Rutgers loss knocked the Cards out of a sure fire #2 BCS ranking (and the playoff game spot) assuming they finished undefeated. It has been demonstrated that the only way an undefeated Cardinal team could have been excluded from the #2 spot in the final raking would have been for the opinion pollsters to suddenly drop the Cards from a season long Top 10 status to somewhere in the 20s or so.
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Heisman Trophy winner hands UK the 2016 Governers Cup.
Damn!
I have more respect for Jackson, didn't I read that the trophy weighs 30 or 40 pounds?
Coulda Woulda Shoulda.. it's karma..uavel never belonged in a playoff game.LJ the Steve Bartman of Loserville football.
Lamont is the Goat for life..Heisman Trophy winner hands UK the 2016 Governers Cup.
"UK's biggest breaks in football" would certainly qualify as one of the world's shortest books. Maybe fit on a 3 X 5 index card, including footnotes. 
smoke em if you got em"UK's biggest breaks in football" would certainly qualify as one of the world's shortest books. Maybe fit on a 3 X 5 index card, including footnotes.
I thank maybe the Ville would have won if he had not fumble the ball the cats was lucky, but being lucky sometime is very than being good, but after that Ky did what they needed to do to win..
Yeah, I heard that but I still don't get the "read" angle. "Read" (at least to me) implies you either "read" the defensive set and automatically go to a play option designed to attack that set or you leave 1 guy unblocked and attack that player with some kind of give or keep decision. I just do not see that.
Cards are in a "double wing" pistol set and the Cats in a 5-2 front. In a pistol set the QB must open up to one side or the other to mesh with the RB so any "read" must be a player on the side to which he opens (on this play, to his left). This type of action is more like the old triple option playbook where every option read (dive, keep, pitch) was sequential and on one side of the defense.
Jackson opens left and meshes with the RB. He cannot see the back side so any read is on the side to which he opened. On snap both wings flow left but neither engages the force player (OLB/DE #41)on that side and no one engages the ILB (#51) on that side. So Jackson pulls the ball and runs straight into not one but 2 unblocked defenders? No matter how good you are you cannot "read" 2 defenders at the point of attack.
The play strikes me as a "give the ball and carry out your fake" play rather than a true "read" type play. To that end, the backside (the right) was well blocked and a running lane appeared to be opening. Or maybe there were multiple blocking errors against a very standard defensive alignment. IDK. I'll ask Petrino the next time I see him!
I saw the Favre pass and other than the bounce off the helmet of the DB aspect it was "just another shocking last play of the game loss", not unlike the Bluegrass Miracle win for LSU in 2002. But the Rutgers loss knocked the Cards out of a sure fire #2 BCS ranking (and the playoff game spot) assuming they finished undefeated. It has been demonstrated that the only way an undefeated Cardinal team could have been excluded from the #2 spot in the final raking would have been for the opinion pollsters to suddenly drop the Cards from a season long Top 10 status to somewhere in the 20s or so.
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I agree the Rutgers loss was #1. But, not sure why Jackson's fumble would be #2.
And, remember who caused that fumble. Your UK Wildcats.
I've been following them longer than many; not as long as some. Going back to the 60's, I've tried to think of a bigger break that went in UK's favor...many unlikely, even impossible breaks have gone against, but not many for. The Jackson fumble is certainly among the biggest, if not the biggest.
Really? the interception itself was the break. This isn't calculus. Clemson's quarterback threw it directly to our linebacker in the last minute or so of the game. That was a huge break. As big as any I remember in a big game. Just because we gave them one back doesn't mean that the interception wasn't a break. We did lose, I was there too.
He is too young to remember the breaks you mention that happened in 1997 forward?
It was a good break for a UK and no doubt for Stoops it was really big. He needed this win in the worst way and it took the monkey off his back. 7-5 is so much better than 6-6.
For you guys talking about the Stevie Johnson TD against UL in my opinion the TD was a well run poorly defended play not luck. With that said the lucky break
in that game happened a few plays earlier. UL had 2nd a goal up 3 on the UK 1 yd line with about 2 min left. UL called a QB sneak and Brohm scored the TD
After the score there was a flag. The call was a UL WR on the far sideline lined up off sides. After the 5 yd penality UL had to get a FG giving Uk to win the game on the A Johnson play. Had UL scored the TD the Johnson play does not win the game.
For you guys talking about the Stevie Johnson TD against UL in my opinion the TD was a well run poorly defended play not luck. With that said the lucky break
in that game happened a few plays earlier. UL had 2nd a goal up 3 on the UK 1 yd line with about 2 min left. UL called a QB sneak and Brohm scored the TD
After the score there was a flag. The call was a UL WR on the far sideline lined up off sides. After the 5 yd penality UL had to get a FG giving Uk to win the game on the A Johnson play. Had UL scored the TD the Johnson play does not win the game.
