I'd say if the guy did take a bottle to the head, he probably would have mentioned it in that wonderfully unbiased statement he gave police.
OK so if you are a parent you need to learn to get all the facts straight before you start shooting off your mouth about what ought to be done to other people's kids.Originally posted by Cawood86:
You are right. It appears he has a history and is braggy about it. So if you know this, why go there and take a chance on getting in an incident? Countless bars in Lex.Originally posted by C.W.1:
Cawood, you've said a lot about the conduct of UK players. However, numerous posters have mentioned what the EKU player had tweeted in the past and you don't even acknowledge that. The EKU player has a clear history of starting trouble with UK players. A history he's apparently completely unashamed about. And you never mention that and how it's an indication of who started this whole incident.
I'm not excusing the EKU player at all. At all. If EKU players came to a Lex bar and the incident happened the other way, would you be ok with it? If Barker were the one with the cuts and broken facial bones, would you say it was ok because he had tweeted things in the past? If Barker started it, you'd be ok with him being beaten badly?
I'm not wanting them publicly executed, far from it. I have a son their age. But, you can't brush it off either just because they are talented players. You gotta know when you are a high level D1 college player and you play for UK, you just can't be involved in these types of things. Don't put yourself in these kinds of situations.
Not one of your posts on this has been based on fact.Originally posted by M4K3 it 8:
3 on 1 is not self defense, unless he had a weapon. Instead, one of our guys used one
Couldnt agree more...Originally posted by DACats86:
And went crying home to daddy...Originally posted by UKRob 73:
A redneck bully finally got his ass whipped. That's it, that's the story.
Some of you are terrible.
So you're seriously trying to confirm a rumor you heard on a message board? Or just trying to spread one?Originally posted by dorkmeister:
I heard Barker went to EKU after the bar fight and got in another fight. Is this true?
So you are the board monitor? I post here and other ones as well. I don't care if you like it or don't. I don't need your permission. What gives you the right to tell a poster where they can post?Originally posted by DACats86:
Where these posters coming from? Some of you all need to get on back to Rupp's Rafters and worry about the relationship between Devin Booker and his dad...
Don't you remember the story about the EIGHT TU thugs in Knoxville that assaulted TWO men in separate incidents, kicking both while they were down and sending one to the hospital with a concussion? If you have, sorry, but a lot of the "new" fans on here for this dirt probably haven't, you don't have to read about it again.Originally posted by Oldtrainer:
Was fight caught on bars camera?
This post was edited on 1/28 5:45 PM by Oldtrainer
"Of course nothing has been proven yet, we are just sharing what our eye witness at the scene had to tell us today."Originally posted by DACats86:
Yes, I'm not prone to exaggeration and hyperbole on the Internet.Originally posted by Cawood86:
Ok...got a link to this info?Originally posted by DACats86:
And yet another variation of the story emerges... Ole dude was wailing on his gf and the UK players stepped in to do the chivalrous thing...
I don't think I slandered them. I said "if" they were found guilty. Seems people are over-looking what I said exactly. Some people just read or hear what they want. Not talking about you BengalWACO.Originally posted by BengalWACO:
Cawood86, you are better than this. Please consider the facts to come out before emotionally slandering our own teams kids.Originally posted by Cawood86:
Not a good sign. Nobody should be dogging anymore U of L players. This is just ugly and there is no way to spin this to make it look otherwise.
Stoops needs to bring the hammer if these guys are found to have severely beaten this kid. Barker, Baker and Dubose need to grow up. Suspend them several games or boot them. No place for this on your team regardless of their talent.
Did you read my original post? Did you read it carefully? Not trying to be a smart aleck, seriously asking.Originally posted by JHB4UK:
no, not by the sad demonstration put on this afternoon in postsOriginally posted by BengalWACO:
Cawood86, you are better than this.
Been that way in Richmond and other small cities (Lebanon)... I was in clubs/Lebanon before I could drive...Originally posted by TBCat:
Getting into Lexington bars is harder if you are under age. When I lived there we always went to Richmond as well. Nobody was every carded there. Didn't even have to waste time with fake IDs in Richmond.Originally posted by Grumpyolddawg:
No idea what happened in this case, don't know anything about any of the kids involved, but like most young guys, a little alcohol and they become 10 feet tall and bullet proof. My guess is there was a bump, then some words were exchanged, then the push and then it was on. First of all the ones doing the serving weren't doing their job, then security wasn't on top of it, most likely flirting with co-eds. The fight went a little too far, one guy ended up hurt, which happens a lot in fights.
I think something Stoops needs to think about to avoid future trouble, because this guy will have friends looking for some revenge, is to put Richmond bars off limits for football players, it might even be a good idea for the AD to do it for all UK athletes for a while. Does Lexington not have bars students can go to or is getting in Lexington bars a little tougher than getting into Richmond bars when you are underaged? I don't think anyone should be given their walking papers over this, but I think he has to get their attention. In todays world I guess everyone should be glad no one was armed, because this could have been much worse.
Agreed on not booting them. Booting someone over this would be silly. They were definetly stupid here and hopefully will learn from it but if you boot every player on your team who gets into bar fights or plays with toy guns then you would have a team with about 3 or 4 players. All of them punters.
10K posts, all on Raftards from a basketball-only fan who never posts on the football board until yesterday afternoon, when she/he wanted to spam with repeated posts about an off the field incidentOriginally posted by jauk11:
My God, 10,555 posts and I have never ever noticed you on here before, maybe because you never add anything new.
You're proving the points of the very people you're criticizing. We don't know that the EKU guy was hit by a bottle. His complaint to the police makes no mention of a bottle so it appears that he was not hit by a bottle. I don' t think a single witness who has talked to the press has mentioned a bottle. And, yet, you eat your own and frame the facts in a light most unfavorable to the UK players just because a bottle has been talked about on message boards. We don't even know at this point whether he was truly beat up by all 3 or if one guy basically did it. We just don't know. What we do know is this guy has bragged and admitted in the past to starting trouble with UK players. We know that he bragged about throwing bottles at Nerlens Noel's car.Originally posted by OHIO COLONEL:
So, for some of you guys, if you mouth off to say a couple of UofL fans, and they then punch you repeatedly and crack you up side the head with a beer bottle....it's then YOUR fault. Right? Sorry, our legal system doesn't work that way.
I don't have to prove anything about when or where I post. You can read it or ignore it, I don't care. You guys sound like high schoolers with their little clicks.....Originally posted by JHB4UK:
10K posts, all on Raftards from a basketball-only fan who never posts on the football board until yesterday afternoon, when she/he wanted to spam with repeated posts about an off the field incidentOriginally posted by jauk11:
My God, 10,555 posts and I have never ever noticed you on here before, maybe because you never add anything new.
I already put these guys on the ignore list, it makes reading and responding to posts much easier.Originally posted by Cawood86:
I don't have to prove anything about when or where I post. You can read it or ignore it, I don't care. You guys sound like high schoolers with their little clicks.....Originally posted by JHB4UK:
10K posts, all on Raftards from a basketball-only fan who never posts on the football board until yesterday afternoon, when she/he wanted to spam with repeated posts about an off the field incidentOriginally posted by jauk11:
My God, 10,555 posts and I have never ever noticed you on here before, maybe because you never add anything new.
CliquesOriginally posted by Cawood86:
I don't have to prove anything about when or where I post. You can read it or ignore it, I don't care. You guys sound like high schoolers with their little clicks.....Originally posted by JHB4UK:
10K posts, all on Raftards from a basketball-only fan who never posts on the football board until yesterday afternoon, when she/he wanted to spam with repeated posts about an off the field incidentOriginally posted by jauk11:
My God, 10,555 posts and I have never ever noticed you on here before, maybe because you never add anything new.
Grammar police too....you're a busy man.Originally posted by DACats86:
CliquesOriginally posted by Cawood86:
I don't have to prove anything about when or where I post. You can read it or ignore it, I don't care. You guys sound like high schoolers with their little clicks.....Originally posted by JHB4UK:
10K posts, all on Raftards from a basketball-only fan who never posts on the football board until yesterday afternoon, when she/he wanted to spam with repeated posts about an off the field incidentOriginally posted by jauk11:
My God, 10,555 posts and I have never ever noticed you on here before, maybe because you never add anything new.
My son graduated from EKU last spring . He said unless they changed it this year , you gotta be 21 to get in any public bar in Richmond nowadays .Originally posted by Mr Brownstone:
Some people here are questioning why they would go to Richmond to bars. My guess is you weren't a student at UK if you don't know that answer. Richmond always allowed 18 yrs old to enter (although can't drink) - not so in Lexington. This allows many freshman and sophomores an opportunity to go socialize in a bar setting. We always made road trips on Thursday to Richmond. Although this was 20+ years ago, so it may have changed, but this has always been part of the UK experience.
Closing off going to bars is not the answer - these are college kids. From the Courier Journal, this guy was the aggressor - if they defended theirselves (which it sounds like), I can't blame them.
Oh I agree , these incidents are nothing most college kids don't do . The worst part about it is the publicity .Originally posted by C.W.1:
I really don't think Stoops and his staff are concerned with 19 year old players getting in bars, even if Richmond no longer allows 18 year olds in bars. We have to recruit against the top programs in the country and I doubt Alabama players are getting carded at Alabama bars. Part of the college experience is the social experience and drinking is part of that, like or not. Recruits go where players have fun. Pure and simple. Why are people concerned about this? 19 year olds have been getting in bars ever since I've been around.
Barker's friends go to EKU, reportedly. That's probably part of the reason they went there. When I went to UK, we went at times to EKU bars mainly because it was a change of scenario and there were a lot of attractive and friendly young women in Richmond. It had less to do with letting 18 year olds in.
This post was edited on 1/29 1:16 PM by C.W.1
As usual another poster who speaks before knowing the whole story. Foot in mouth.oOriginally posted by Cawood86:
Not a good sign. Nobody should be dogging anymore U of L players. This is just ugly and there is no way to spin this to make it look otherwise.
Stoops needs to bring the hammer if these guys are found to have severely beaten this kid. Barker, Baker and Dubose need to grow up. Suspend them several games or boot them. No place for this on your team regardless of their talent.
Nope. I am so troubled though that a message board dude does not like a post of mine. Guess I'll head over to Clays Ferry bridge. You must be a jock sniffer though to be so upset about it. Maybe they'll let still hang out with them since you are such a good dangler.Originally posted by Beavis606:
Did the OP cry and get the other thread deleted?
I like how he convicts them in the first sentence of this thread and then uses "if" in the second sentence. What a piece of (work).
The main thing I see you doing wrong is being Judge , Jury and Executioner without knowing all the facts . I bet you watch Fox (news ) don't ya?Originally posted by Cawood86:
Not sure what you mean by spam. I thought we were allowed to start threads here on a message board. I don't check the whole board before I post a subject. Not sure what I did wrong.Originally posted by JHB4UK:
question dude....why did you spam the thread that was already created on this subject with like 3 or 4 posts....and then decide to start a whole new thread on the same exact topic, where you say the same exact things?Originally posted by Cawood86: