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Throwback: Who remembers the Matt Jones/Marc Maggard saga?

My take. First, I started posting about UK basketball and particularly recruiting in 1995 with the old AOL boards. I at one time was a regular on here in the various evolutionary forms it has undergone. (I lost more than 6000 posts during one transition). Marc contacted me and asked if I would take on the challenge of heading up his FREE side of his new startup.....TrueBlueKentucky. I took it on and the site gathered about 3000 regular posters. It was extremely good and accurate recruiting information. Marc and I traveled to several sites to watch prospects, including Orlando AAU, Ft Wayne AAU, and U of Cincinnati AAU. We did several trips to Orlando. I drove one of those years and heard Marc constantly on the phone with the likes of Jim Calhoun and many others. His phone never stopped. His contact at UK was Orlando Antigua. He had direct acces to him as well as others on the staff at UK. His information was solid. Sometimes he would put out false information because he was ASKED to by the staff, and at other times the false information was to trap Jones, who had no solid contacts at that time. Marc is and probably always will be an asshole. He angered me more than a few times. It's all about him and his "My way or the highway" smugness and arrogance. I left TrueBlueKentucky when it started to unravel and have not really taken an active role in the last three years anywhere else. Ok, that's my take.
 
My take. First, I started posting about UK basketball and particularly recruiting in 1995 with the old AOL boards. I at one time was a regular on here in the various evolutionary forms it has undergone. (I lost more than 6000 posts during one transition). Marc contacted me and asked if I would take on the challenge of heading up his FREE side of his new startup.....TrueBlueKentucky. I took it on and the site gathered about 3000 regular posters. It was extremely good and accurate recruiting information. Marc and I traveled to several sites to watch prospects, including Orlando AAU, Ft Wayne AAU, and U of Cincinnati AAU. We did several trips to Orlando. I drove one of those years and heard Marc constantly on the phone with the likes of Jim Calhoun and many others. His phone never stopped. His contact at UK was Orlando Antigua. He had direct acces to him as well as others on the staff at UK. His information was solid. Sometimes he would put out false information because he was ASKED to by the staff, and at other times the false information was to trap Jones, who had no solid contacts at that time. Marc is and probably always will be an asshole. He angered me more than a few times. It's all about him and his "My way or the highway" smugness and arrogance. I left TrueBlueKentucky when it started to unravel and have not really taken an active role in the last three years anywhere else. Ok, that's my take.
I'll accept Dave if he's saying he witnessed UK asking Marc to be #wrongonpurpose about Vargas/Payne.

Seems idiotic of UK to ask for that or for anyone agreeing to do it.
 
I seem to remember there was a secret "hack" that would allow anyone to have access to the premium content at TBK. Can't remember exactly how we did it but, I'm sure it was a simple code glitch.
You guys are really going back with the AOL talk. Seems I first signed in around '97 or '98. I've always been "Blueworld". Just 3 different incarnations. I remember those early days and then the very beginnings of the Tubby Super Friends vs. LOD. Those were some epic battles. Mods definitely had their hands full.
 
Lol no,, I said I was.. Try to keep myself away from that mess that ended up happening.. :)

I'll give Marc credit there for awhile.. He had solid contacts and solid info.. Everything Dave said is 100% accurate..
No I meant was I lying about him saying he was po
Lol no,, I said I was.. Try to keep myself away from that mess that ended up happening.. :)

I'll give Marc credit there for awhile.. He had solid contacts and solid info.. Everything Dave said is 100% accurate..
No I meant about him really being wrong on purpose.
 
No I meant was I lying about him saying he was po

No I meant about him really being wrong on purpose.
Yea he was wrong on purpose a few times.. That's what UK wanted him to put out.. Stuff like that happens at every high major school..

I'll vouch for Marsh on all he's said in this thread.. I know the same shit he knows about TBK..
 
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Greg is an engineer. He came back to Western Kentucky, and got on at USEC as a shift engineer. Things didn't work out, and his now in St Louis working at a nuke plant I believe.
Edit: Now he's in Katy Texas.
Makes since as to why I saw him at an airport in Texas, it was only in recent years. What I said about him in Paducah is what he shared with us at Wildcats Thunder in 2011. He was explaining his absence on the board during Cal getting that team ready for the awesome Final 4 run after Greg trashed Cal all throughout SEC play. He ultimately gave Cal credit for that run in the end. Mods on Wildcats Thunder were more than fair with him there. He would get banned and brought back on more than one occasion. If my memory serves me right, he knew one of their staff members personally and was once on staff there too before burning bridges in the end. He lights fires everywhere. I kind of miss the guy though. He sure could stir the pot real good.
 
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You must have him on Facebook too? Lol because that's all I hear from him.. I ref'd Ohio St games.. Big 10 or 12,, whichever one.. And there's no beef with any ref towards UK nor Cal..
I used to a long time ago but I deleted the account a long time ago. He would post a lot about being one on Wildcats Thunder and mentioned how he would evaluate the games afterwards or so he would say. I didn't quite get it, been awhile. I no longer actively post at that board. It's mostly defunct outside of the staff members and few long time members that were at the site from the beginning.
 
I used to a long time ago but I deleted the account a long time ago. He would post a lot about being one on Wildcats Thunder and mentioned how he would evaluate the games afterwards or so he would say. I didn't quite get it, been awhile. I no longer actively post at that board. It's mostly defunct outside of the staff members and few long time members that were at the site from the beginning.
I've got him on FB and every season of basketball,, we go back n forth about certain refs..
 
I seem to remember there was a secret "hack" that would allow anyone to have access to the premium content at TBK. Can't remember exactly how we did it but, I'm sure it was a simple code glitch.
You guys are really going back with the AOL talk. Seems I first signed in around '97 or '98. I've always been "Blueworld". Just 3 different incarnations. I remember those early days and then the very beginnings of the Tubby Super Friends vs. LOD. Those were some epic battles. Mods definitely had their hands full.

The untold history of UK internet fandom is in this thread.

The Tubby vs Anti-Tubby AOL debates shall live infamy forever. Future generations may never learn of these battles, but they happened and were real.

And the LoD lost. They gave us Billy Gillispie. Thanks.
 
I have never understood the opinion that it's "creepy" to follow collegiate recruiting. Sounds like arrogance to hold that opinion.

These are sports teams. People want to know who will be on the roster. how does that not makes sense?

If it was creepy parents wouldn't put their kids out there, wanting and antagonizing the exposure, creating an entire news cycle for their 17 year old kid. It's natural.

Now if you're someone who takes it to a strange level, like tracking down a recruit to talk or something bizarre, then I get it. But I don't get the few people who believe any form of following your favorite teams recruiting is strange.

It's not that I have a problem following recruiting. Quite frankly, it was the way they went about it. @davekersey just said himself they intentionally reported false reports. The whole enterprise always seemed dirty to me. And what made it worse is that Maggard refused to ever admit that he was a defacto reporter or that he had an obligation to honesty and credibility. And I know this because I publicly challenged him on it on this board.
 
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Maybe people aren't looking to be haters, but are reacting to the situations they've seen (or heard) about

If it's because of the attitudes of Jones and Maggard, I understand.

But people who hate them try to say they don't have good information simply because they don't like them.

That's what I was referring to.
 
If it's because of the attitudes of Jones and Maggard, I understand.

But people who hate them try to say they don't have good information simply because they don't like them.

That's what I was referring to.

I get that. I always refer to their condescending, arrogant attitudes
 
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I spent some time on TBK back then because of the info and quality of discussion (at times), but Marc was a mega asshole. Huge, arrogant bully that blasted people for ridiculous stuff. One time I made a point about how I thought UK's alumni relations were terrible (at the time, and I was right) and he went ballistic. Probably because he was tight with Billy G. Dude would ban people for saying something critical of the program or the coach. My account got locked a few times for being critical.

I'm glad his site is dead, it was a joke and he was a ****ing criminal getting people to sign up for his "lifer" plan and then going radio silent.
 
Was the dumbest thing I ever saw. But he was scouting some of those prospects, so I guess as far as business goes he was playing it smart.

If his scouting is any reflection of who Kentucky went after in those days, I would say he should move on to some other profession.
 
I'm sorry but I'm just lost on this

you accept payment from people who are paying you not to be puppets for UK but to provide them with information, and you allow your website to be used and the people who are paying you intentionally mislead in an effort to curry favor with UK (or whoever)

I don't give a damn if Cal is calling me up and asking me personally, its a question of integrity.

That was a big problem I had with Matt Jones back then too. He was a UK version of Jay Bilas back then either via himself or someone like Brian the Intern to push a viewpoint that went against what was right in an effort to present UK in the best light possible...and the intent was pretty transparent.

Everything just seemed shadier back then. Maybe it is now but I don't deal with it.
 
OP, do you know when the next Star Wars will be out? I remember reading a while back that it was scheduled for release in May 2017, but that is closing in and I haven't heard any buzz yet. Just wondering if it has been pushed back.
 
OP, do you know when the next Star Wars will be out? I remember reading a while back that it was scheduled for release in May 2017, but that is closing in and I haven't heard any buzz yet. Just wondering if it has been pushed back.

Comes out December of this year. Was supposed to be May, but they pushed it back to Christmas because the last two have done so well at that time of year.
 
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He was indicted for selling fake Spring Break accommodations (all in one travel vouchers), while I was a student at UK years ago. The first of many "message board confidence men" to come.
I remember that quite well; I was somewhat a newbie back then and the posters on here were talking about it a lot.
 
While browsing Twitter today, two Star Wars (I am a huge fan) bloggers that I follow, who both have credible sites, were fighting like cats and dogs, accusing one of stealing info and not crediting the other. However, it seems to be occurring more often between the two and I couldn't help but be reminded of the Matt Jones/Marc Maggard feud. Who here remembers that ordeal? It was around ten years ago if I remember correctly and for me personally, it provided a lot of comedy. I remember checking KSR back then to read disses against ole "Frosted Tips" more than for UK insight. It was also discussed quite a bit on this board and was related to the recruitment of some players (Patterson/Lucas, Eloy Vargas, etc). I just figured I'd see if any other RR members recall those "good ole days" lol

I met Marc in Houston when BCG went into Houston and got blown out; I think his first season. I was on the first row right behind the UK bench and you could see the players faces and reactions to BCG and could tell this team did not like him. I even got into an argument with an older lady and ended up finding out that it was BCG's mom so I felt really bad about it. Crazy times indeed...
 
I met Marc in Houston when BCG went into Houston and got blown out; I think his first season. I was on the first row right behind the UK bench and you could see the players faces and reactions to BCG and could tell this team did not like him. I even got into an argument with an older lady and ended up finding out that it was BCG's mom so I felt really bad about it. Crazy times indeed...
Who the hell are you?
 
Wow. This is a REALLY random thread to have revived 1.5 years later.

I wish someone could revive some of the other great threads on here like the John Wall photoshop and Reggie Love threads. That Reggie Love one was hilarious and if you weren't up late that night you probably missed it. I'm sure it got deleted by morning. I wish someone archived all of the great ones over the years. There was one with something to do with "I am spoonman" (or something like that) that people talked about that was supposed to have been good that I somehow missed.
 
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Great memories out of this thread. I started calling Hoover the alphabet man after his cryptic post using initials. X, Y..... and all of them went elsewhere.
 
Here's his blue steel look:

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Here's his Deliverance look:

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I met Marc in Houston when BCG went into Houston and got blown out; I think his first season. I was on the first row right behind the UK bench and you could see the players faces and reactions to BCG and could tell this team did not like him. I even got into an argument with an older lady and ended up finding out that it was BCG's mom so I felt really bad about it. Crazy times indeed...


This isn’t suspect at all
 
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Now that the Matt vs Maggard thing has been discussed, has anyone heard where the Higgins vs KSR thing stands?
 
Marc asked me to help him start TrueBlueKentucky. I was to head up the FREE information side of the page while he set up a pay side. I hesitated because I already knew he was hard to get along with, but I did it and we ran the site much like this one in its format.....ala.....this message is on a free board but the House of Blue is the pay side. I, with his blessing, would occasionally leak pay side information on the free board. We reached 3,000 members as I remember, most of them free side contributors. Marc had contacts into UK like no one since. Antigua would tell him just about anything surrounding the program and its recruiting. I traveled with Marc to Orlando for the WideWorld of Sports tournament and while I drove he was constantly on the phone with guys like Jim Calhoun, Billy Donovan, Herb Sendek, etc. He knew them all. BUT, all in all, it was an experience shot through with frustration since Marc would often post misinformation. One VERY positive thing about that board......there was a policy of no degradation of the program or each other. It was civil, way more than other like venues. I soured on everyday posting when TBK started losing ground because Marc disappeared. In those days, Jones hadn't cracked the ice to get the type of information Maggard got.
 
I met Marc in Houston when BCG went into Houston and got blown out; I think his first season. I was on the first row right behind the UK bench and you could see the players faces and reactions to BCG and could tell this team did not like him. I even got into an argument with an older lady and ended up finding out that it was BCG's mom so I felt really bad about it. Crazy times indeed...

You got into a fight with Billy Clyde's mom during a blowout loss? Weird flex, but OK.
 
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