I don't even know what that means. But I bet it wasn't a mature response to somebody's opinion on a message board.
This team is poorly coached and lacks discipline.
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I don't even know what that means. But I bet it wasn't a mature response to somebody's opinion on a message board.
Far from a troll. But I tend to only post on here when I'm mad at our effort and performance.
Some people confuse an abundance of talent with great coaching. Great coaching gets players to play well above their skill level. When was the last time a UK player was accused of playing above his talent?
You're right - I agree! Here's my proposed solution: we find all the whiny bitches who only show up when we lose, all the people who just want to vent but end up embarrassing themselves with overly dramatic and irrational gasbaggery, all the people with such utter lack of perspective that they complain at the first sign of trouble despite "cheering" for a team that wins 80% of the time and has 4 final fours in 5 years, we round them all up and shoot them.
What do you think? Problem solved?
There is a reason they've been here 3-4 years. And what does this have to do with Bill Self? I'm confused.
Yes, you're so mad right now, that you want to "shoot" me because I said this current team is poorly coached.
Great response. Did you cut and paste that from your "internet tough guy" e-book?
Most of our fans rag on Bill Self's coaching ability because he takes 5* talent and turns them unto duds after 3+ years.
You don't understand appropriate use of quotation marks. Therefore, understandably, I have no more time for you. Pity, really, our relationship was showing so much promise!
That's based on unfair expectations and really an irrelevant question. John Calipari isn't capable of being accused of improving a player in the eyes of many.
The second a freshmen doesn't look like Anthony Davis he becomes a bust. Maybe he was, I don't know, just a freshmen with more talent than many? Being the "fifth best player" coming out of high school doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Right. Remember that year he had Camby and 4 guys from the YMCA? What about 2011. Let's see. Jorts. I've loved watching him in the nba! And liggins. Him too! And Lamb - who can forget Lamb and his career in the League!!
Yeah, if I was you I would definitely eject on this conversation, because you've shown you inability to converse like a reasonable adult.
Lee is an energy/rebounding player that missed most of the game due to fouls. He's actually been our best big this season. As for Poythress, I've just grown not to expect anything from him anymore, so that when he plays good, it's a bonus. He's had a stretch of pretty decent games, and the first SEC road game he plays like he's a true Freshman. I don't get it, and I stopped trying. Self has had a lot more guys stick around than Cal has, so that's probably why rival fans make fun of him.
I thought we would probably lose this game, and I wouldn't mind losing a very close game, but losing by 20 to an 8-5 team goes to show how bad we are going to be on the road this year. Everyone is going to play lights out against Kentucky in the SEC with a home court advantage, and we just aren't very good. We can all sit here and blame Cal, and this and that, but it's looking like another down year. This season doesn't really hurt to me, what hurts to me is the lost opportunity last year. I would have been perfectly fine with this season had we won the title. But we didn't. That doesn't mean I don't want John Calipari as our head coach. Jamal Sunburn is going to have a lot of fun on here this season, and CUT-NETS is ecstatic. You never see these guys around when we win the big games, but they feast like savages when we lose. Anyway, you all have a good night.
Well, shoot, I thought we were done. But, no! Err, "no"!
If we keep going, perhaps I'll reveal myself to be a malcontent, incapable of gratitude when it's obviously appropriate, a front-runner, someone who can be counted on to completely wilt at the first sign of tough times. Maybe then we could relate?
The results speak for themselves. We always accuse lesser teams playing their best games against us. Maybe they are simply playing at the level that their opponent allows them to play.
There is a huge difference between looking like AD and looking like you shouldn't be on the floor. We have guys that look like they don't play well enough to make their former highschool teams. Why is that? Well, maybe it is because Cal has broken the spirits of his players trying to turn them all into top defenders that they lost the ability to even do the things that they once did well.
Wait...I don't know how I got pegged as the "troll" or "loves the losing" guy. I know I don't post on here a lot, but I've just searched my last set of posts.
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/...preciate-the-harrison-twins-even-more.144269/
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/this-loss-is-on-cal-and-being-lottery-crazy.142742/
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/2017-recruiting-wish-list.138119/
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/...-look-like-if-coach-cal-was-in-charge.109503/
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/...-are-we-gonna-be-able-to-add-for-2016.103881/
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/ive-been-saying-boogie-wcs-and-rondo.102213/
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/dee-brown-deron-williams-luther-head-2016-uk.92004/
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/soooo-what-happens-with-our-alumni-game.91696/
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/marcus-lee-needs-more-time-next-year.90166/
Soooo.... that's 2 critical posts out of 10. Are you guys just against critiques? Because I'm confused. Everything isn't always rosy.
Let me know, because I'm not sure of President Obama's gun control laws can save me from posting on Rupps Rafters.
The problem is that LSU played like total garbage, they looked terrible honestly but they still won by nearly 20. That's how bad our coaching and effort was tonight and that's unacceptable to me.
The fact that last years team came up short makes this even more frustrating . had 2014/15 finished the job we all would be fine with this filler year but you can't continue to lose with the best team every year and not expect your fans to turn on you. I'm starting to really question Cal's coaching ability. I don't think he's very good at adapting to his players and I hate this rebuilding crap that has to take place every year. 4 kids from last years team had no business going pro, this is getting ridiculous now.
Over the span of time that Cal has been coaching, your examples fall into the noise. In the last 10 years, Cal has signed more talent than any other team in college. Jorts is the only player that there might be a reasonable argument for playing above his talent. However, he benefited greatly from good teammates.
I should have followed that advice too. I didn't deal with this very well. I'm okay with a loss but the team quit and showed a total lack of….. Of….. Of… well everything.
This is just one game, but like Cal just said, "We played awful." Let's face it, we do not have a center. Hopefully Skal will improve, but I don't think it will be this year. His basketball IQ is not very good. He doesn't know how to post up, and put a man on his hip. He never calls for the ball, and when he gets a rebound, he's not strong enough to hold it. Briscoe is a good defender, but he couldn't throw it in the ocean. Poy could be great, but he disappears to much. Lee, cannot shoot, and doesn't fight for position under the basket. Murray, great shooter, but plays out of control to much. Needs to let the game come to him. Willis, I would love to see him and Poy as forwards, Lee as center, and Ulis and Murray as guards for our starting lineup. with Matthews, Skal, Briscoe and Hawkins coming off the bench.
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
My problem with Skal now is that when he's in the game and does get the ball, he doesn't even look at the basket. And shooting is the only thing he does exceptionally well right now.
Im not going to question 4 Final-4's, 5 elite 8's, 2 title games, and 1 championship in 6 seasons. Not to mention, with completely different teams. If you don't think Cal can coach, that's on you. You may want to sleep this loss off. How easily we forgot the 13-14 season where we were terrible on the road all year, and even got an 8 seed. I'm not saying that will happen this year, but you don't take that team to the title game if you can't coach.
I do agree that 8 players or whatever it was didn't need to go pro after last year. But honestly, you're getting way too worked up over this season. I thought we were going to be better too, but we just aren't going to be very good unless something happens and some guys step up.
Cal did nothing more with those teams then just about any random coach could have. Heck those teams were loaded with talent and should have performed better than they did.
Okay, so what do you propose we do about it? Find another coach that can recruit like Cal, and coach better than Cal? What's his name? Are we going to fire Cal first? You're right, any average coach could have went to 4 Final-4's in 6 years. Happens all the time.
I'm talking about playing with this many freshman that are soft..Jorts and Liggin' s would tear your heart out and hand it to you and Lamb could shoot lights out
Ridiculous, only the elite coaches have their teams playing their best by March year in year out. You put too much stock into signing talent, you don't think that our talent being predominantly freshmen negates the talent aspect at all? Wow.
Your statement that "we always have more talent on our roster" shows how much know about sports. NADA.
Just because our freshmen class has been disappointing does not mean the entire freshmen class is bad. There have actually been plenty of freshmen looking damn good this year (Simmons, Swanigan, Ingram, Stone, Brown, Ellenson, etc.), but unfortunately those guys didn't land at UK this time around.
Lets not make Liggins and Jorts out to be something they're not. Neither player was very good until the end of the 2011 season and even then there were things they were not very good at. They weren't as tough as you make them out to be.
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