The Ukraine war. (Yes, we'll mind our manners)
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You make it sound so simple. Typical of the anti-Ukraine support crowd here.
More Air Defenses & Cross-Border Strikes Won’t Change The Ukrainian Conflict’s Dynamics
The only variable that can change this conflict’s military-strategic dynamics is a conventional NATO intervention, though that’s fraught with the risk of sparking World War III by miscalculation, but it’s still being seriously considered. The US will
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Sorry for you and your family’s loss. May her memory be a blessing.
We SHOULD support Taiwan fm Communist takeover
But - I wont belabor that point - ive made it often enough here
What we are seeing is a much wider, global war erupting stage by stage -
What does it everyone think about the US moving in to assist with pending Israeli atrikes against Lebanon?
And the apparent union (anschlus?) of shiite and sunni elements against Israel (Hez - Yemen - Houthis - Taliban)
Pathetic thing is the ppl pushing and driving for war aren't going to do much dying in it. -
War Pigs
But - I wont belabor that point - ive made it often enough here
What we are seeing is a much wider, global war erupting stage by stage -
What does it everyone think about the US moving in to assist with pending Israeli atrikes against Lebanon?
And the apparent union (anschlus?) of shiite and sunni elements against Israel (Hez - Yemen - Houthis - Taliban)
Pathetic thing is the ppl pushing and driving for war aren't going to do much dying in it. -
War Pigs
David Stockman on The Ukrainian Border War Folly
Their endless whining about the Russians and Putin is just plain pathetic...
In May 2022, Sachs said that the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 would be hard to beat and that Finland's moves to join NATO would undermine a negotiated peace: "All of this talk of defeating Russia, to my mind, is reckless."[69] In June 2022, he co-signed an open letter calling for a "ceasefire" in the war, questioning Western countries' continuing military support for Ukraine.[70]
In 2022, he appeared twice on one of the top-rated shows funded by the Russian government, hosted by Vladimir Solovyov, to call for Ukraine to negotiate and step away from its "maximalist demands" of removing Russia from Ukrainian territory.[71]
Sachs has suggested that the U.S. was responsible for the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipeline. In February 2023, he was invited by the Russian government to address the United Nations Security Council about the topic.[72][26]
Sick source!More Air Defenses & Cross-Border Strikes Won’t Change The Ukrainian Conflict’s Dynamics
The only variable that can change this conflict’s military-strategic dynamics is a conventional NATO intervention, though that’s fraught with the risk of sparking World War III by miscalculation, but it’s still being seriously considered. The US will
Andrew Korybko
@korybko
I'm a Moscow-based American political analyst specializing in the global systemic transition to multipolarity.
Did you hear what Baghdad Bob said? He said the US is running scared!Shooting the messenger - Wikipedia
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Shooting the messenger - Wikipedia
Unfortunately, that’s not how things work for the warhawks.
Facts, if said on Russian tv become untrue. So even if the US did play a major role in blowing up the pipeline, it’s only true if it’s allowed to be said on one of the US corporate media outlets. If it’s not a US government approved message funneled through one of their mouthpieces places at the major media outlets in the US, it’s propaganda.
"Shooting the messenger" (also "killing the messenger" or "attacking the messenger" or "blaming the bearer of bad tidings / the doom monger") is a metaphoric phrase used to describe the act of blaming the bearer of bad news, despite the bearer or messenger having no direct responsibility for the bad news or its consequences.[1]
Nigel Farage’s claim that NATO provoked Russia is naive and dangerous
It is also a wilful misreading of history
Nigel Farage’s claim that NATO provoked Russia is naive and dangerous
It is also a wilful misreading of historywww.economist.com
Of course, the people profiting the war are going to tell you what you want to hear.
It's also a straw man.
It's not just you here on the catpaw who can't make your pro-war arguments without them, flavored by your stupid insults.
It's not just you here on the catpaw who can't make your pro-war arguments without them, flavored by your stupid insults.
And of course, people profiting from pushing Russian propaganda, are going to tell you what you want to hear.
No. Truth is the first casualty in war; if there's one thing you can be absolutely certain, the narrative presented to you is no better than what is served them.
Russians are getting slaughtered in Vochansk. A nato official said they're losing around 1,000 KIA a day. And they're currently pulling units out, because they're combat ineffective. And rotating fresh units in.
The same
And it's propaganda 101, label the inconvenient facts you can't contend with as enemy propaganda, aiding the enemy.
The ''facts'' have been contended. You simply wave them off. NATO and the US want to bleed Russia dry of manpower and armor. This is a war of attrition.
No they most certainly have not.
I wave off nothing.
I'm sure that gives you great joy.
Time will continue to prove me correct.
I'm sure you'll be posting the Russian Defense Ministry saying that the deaths and injuries came from Russian Air Defense engaging the missiles right over this beach area, causing the destroyed missile fragments to fall on the people, right?
Wrong, I don't know what happened.
That's the difference, one of many, between you and me: I'm not talking out of my ass all the time. All I care about it is that it happened and didn't need to.
Yet you ran to post that tweet, because it fit your narrative? Ukraine was targeting the naval base near that beach with ATACMS. The russian's intercepted the missles and the fragments (cluster) fell on the beachgoers.
But you saw a tweet (shocking, what a free thinker) saying Ukraine bombed innocent russians and ran to post it here. SeverelyDevelopmentallyChallenged888 stikes again.
That wasn't the point of the tweet, nor why I posted it.
They'd already left or were/are rich and connected, but still. Given that their average aged infantryman is 40-something, I'm sure they're gonna win that war of attrition you're salivating for.
The people who surrendered to the Taliban are still in charge. I'm not sure you appreciate how inept our leadership is. It's one thing to talk tough on the internet but people are going to be in harms way and most of the kids in our country will wave Palestinian flags and burn US flags. We need to take care of our country for a while and heal some stuff.
