The earth is a flat, non spinning realm, not a planet in an infinite universe
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Gravity, dipish! They aren't thrusting more in the air, so there isn't more lift. If your flat earth is constantly moving upward as your fellow believers theorize, how is a plane able to keep a constant altitude without constant increase in thrust?
Tolkien would have known to name it Bottom Earth, wouldn't he? Or is he as dumb as the rest of us?
He doesn't beleieve in gravity. See page two of this thread. No. I'm not making this up.
No idea, doesn't prove your claim or disprove mine though.
I assume you've heard of Satan, the father of lies. He's been building this lie where God doesn't exist and man isn't a special creation for millenia, he's very persistant.
Asked and answered.
PS, I'm still waiting for evidence of the curvature of the earth.
Which is why you can't convince him of anything. It becomes a circular argument.
Smart guy:It's gravity.
Bushy Beaver:I don't believe in it.
SG:Here is mathematically how it works, proven thousands upon thousands of times over.
BB:Gravity is a lie.
SG:Then how do you explain why we aren't thrown off the Earth and out into space?
BB:Earth moves upwards at the same rate your "gravity" moves down.
SG:You don't f***in' say?! Awful coincidental, but then how do things stay in the air if Earth is constantly moving toward it?
BB: Don't rightly know, but it sure as shit ain't gravity.
SG:If you can't disprove the current law, then it stands as law, its gravity.
BB:Gravity isn't real.
SG:*sets room on fire*
How many times are you going to lie and claim I said the earth is moving upwards? Is lying to save face your new strategy?
And we're waiting on an example of a credible source or institution that says it isn't round.
Then are you questioning your own believers? This is a common thought among them to explain why we don't just float off if gravity isn't real.
There's abundant evidence. You just reject it. Same as all conspiracy theorists. Rattle on with endless nonsense, demand evidence of others' claims, reject all the evidence you see, then say "nobody ever shows me evidence." I'm convinced conspiracy theorists didn't get enough attention as children and this is the adult equivalent of throwing a tantrum to get people to look at you.
Sounds like a huge gay guy in prison.
Who dat guy who cuttin LeeRoy's steak fo him?
Oh, dat's Bottom Earth
Satan is not a person or a network of people. So, who are the actual people that are promoting this and for what purpose? Are all those that are conspiring to push this agenda just the agents of Satan? Are they working together or separately? Do they have a secular connection, and if so, what is it?
Further... you entirely ignored the part where your timeline in regards to evolution v. spherical earth do not line up. So, if Satan is trying to promote spherical earth in order to legitimatize evolution and in term delegitimatize God, why is it that the belief in spherical earth came first and was not a reaction to evolution? You're putting the cart before the horse here. So, how did the promotion of spherical earth delegitimatize God before evolution?
Explain this:
Uncut, unedited footage of a space shuttle launch from cameras on the solid rocket boosters. I took a screenshot where you can see Earth after the boosters have been detached, even added a line to where you can clearly see a curvature.
Uncut, unedited footage of a space shuttle launch from cameras on the solid rocket boosters. I took a screenshot where you can see Earth after the boosters have been detached, even added a line to where you can clearly see a curvature.
This is a losers argument and if you don't know why you're an idiot and if you continue it I will ignore you.
Give me evidence of the physical measuring of the curvature of the earth, I dare you. FYI the guy in the first video is performing this experiment it's call 'the force the line experiment' check it out on youtube although I'm not sure exactly when it's do to start.
You don't have to know all the players to know the game, silly man.
I guess you missed it the first half dozen times I explained the fish eye lens effect.
That is a valid argument, as it is one that is widely accepted by your peers. Are you now a pioneer in the flat Earth community that has abandoned their common beliefs?
No, I've seen you arguments on the fish eye lens effect, but that isn't one. There is zero distortion of the edges when the shuttle is still before launch. This is just a good ol' run of the mill regular camera lens. Now, please explain.
That is what an image of a fisheye lens looks like. Notice the bulging in the center and the curvature outward on both sides.
This is the camera on the rocket booster. Notice zero distortion of any kind in the picture.
Since when are photos that can't be replicated, unless you're a billionaire or something, are taken as gospel fact. That's not scientific at all and it sure isn't valid evidence if it cannot be verified.
Multiple space agencies have been on the space station, in orbit, and have verified Earth is round. Mathematical formulas and simple experiments can be done to prove it. The verification is all around you, but you refuse to believe it. Kinda wish Elon Musk would tie you to the head of his next Space X launch so you can see it yourself. We got some Catpaw friends in high places, can anyone make this happen?
If you didn't see the changing curvature in the horizon line then you need to have your eyes checked, or at least watch to the part where it can be seen. Several places it goes from convex to flat to concave. LOL.
Like I've said it's a vast multinational conspiracy and their is no ISS because there is no 'outer space'. Also you've yet to provide me with any experimental evidence of the curve let alone evidence from a simple experiment. And the reason I know your losing this argument is because you've devolved to threatening me with violence.
Burden of proof, do you know what that means? I showed a concrete unedited example of a shuttle going into space. The job is on you to debunk it, just like my job in posting it was to prove you are a loon. Take screenshots of the video, show the unedited pic like I did so we have a reference point we can look at ourselves if we feel you pulled shenanigans, and then an edited photo showing these changing curvatures.
Also, the Earth isn't a perfect sphere. If it were, that would mean no mountains, and everything would be sea level. It is thicker and more oblong toward the equator. This could explain how some horizons appear "flat". Where the shuttle is at such a low altitude and launched from the tropics, the curvature you see is minimal, but as I showed in the picture, it's there.
Several have been posted, you can look at the Chicago skyline from different distances, and use the size of the Sears Tower to figure out how much horizon has been lost due to the curvature. Didn't think I needed to provide examples when several are already here. No violence. If there is no space like you claim, you should be perfectly fine. I mean, if there's no space, then whatever is up there should be atmosphere. You could breathe it, right?
Ad hominem is all they got left, Bill.
You're blowin' the rubes' minds with your arguments. They're apoplectic with our new reality!!
Now let's get you up in those balloons with our fancy lasers and kick start this revolution. I know you know how to get the proof were after, cause you said so. And you'd never lie to me, cause you said so....
Wait a minute. I forgot. It's the rubes that need to provide us the evidence. Genius=Bill!!!
The sifting shape is all over that video, convex/flat/concave and vica versa, don't get mad at me because you posted a video as proof of your claim and didn't do your due diligence to vet it. As far as the Chicago Skyline, how much of it do you think should be beyond the 'horizon' at 53 miles? Let me tell you, ALL OF IT.
Do the math yourself. Curvature of the earth is calculated as follow; 8 X miles squared = curvature.
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I've been presenting real world reproducible evidence everywhere. The other team has been screaming NASA and "you're just an idiot" arguments. So far, to any objective observer, I'm killing everyone in this thread.
I'd give you a like, but a man like you don't need it.
NASA=egghead, fake news, satan's minions
Picture from a camera with a non fish eye lensed camera or it didn't happen.![[winking]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/wink.r191677.gif "Winking [winking]")
no fish eye camera came near this
The Coriolis effect is empirical evidence of curvature and rotation. Armies and navies the world over take this into account in aiming of artillery and naval cannon, and have as far back as at least WW1.
Then prove it. I did my job in using the video to show a curved Earth, put your accusations to work and show that it isn't. It isn't my job to disprove my own argument, that's your's.
Oh, and the equation to find Earth's curvature is actually the Pythagorean Theorem. Using it, we know that Earth curves at 8 inches per mile. Let's look at a picture of the Chicago Skyline from New Buffalo, MI.
In the pic, you can only see Sears(Willis) Tower, Trump Tower, and the Aon Center. The three tallest buildings in the city. From the picture, we can see that the Aon center and Trump Tower are cubes. Well we know that isn't right, as both are very vertical buildings in shape. As a matter of fact, here's a picture detailing their heights.
Now, calculating the curvature, let's assume the picture is taken roughly 15 feet above sea level as it looks to be taken on a boat, and account for the height of the person taking the picture. New Buffalo is 40 miles from Chicago, so after calculating for curvature, the horizon loses roughly 829 feet. If you account for that by showing the loss of building below the horizon, you get this.
Yep. Not flat.
How about we go a little further, a flight video from Sydney, Australia to Johannesburg, South Africa.
In the video, they fly near Antarctica, and glaciers are shown out of the window. However, a flat Earth model, this would be impossible, as the flight path would be other Asia and all of Africa. Flying south on a flat Earth would have sent it flying off the edge.(assuming south on a flat Earth is anything directly away from the center, or what us normal people call the North Pole.)
But, a spherical Earth, this would be the flight path.
The Coriolis effect is real, it's cause is the electomagnetic properties of our realm not the mythical spin of the earth.
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