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The earth is a flat, non spinning realm, not a planet in an infinite universe

Is the Earth Flat or a Globe

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Why can you see Chicago from Michigan 60 miles away, not possible on a globe. And no it wasn't a superior mirage, looming, a refracted image or any other nonsensical illusion. You can also see the Superdome from 17 miles away across lake Pontchartrain, not possible on a globe. There are tons of examples of being able to see things that should be beyond the 'horizon'. The formula for the curvature of the earth is 8 inches per mile X mile (mile squared), do the math it doesn't work.

You really haven't thought this thru very well have you?

Please rewrite your "formula" factoring for mean distance ASL between Chicago, IL and Van Buren County, Mi. (right across the lake).
 
I did not read everything as I don't have the time. I believe 100% you are trolling, but I thought I would add to the conversation.

The following is some light reading on how to calculate radar range to allow for the curvature of the earth:

http://www.radartutorial.eu/01.basics/The Radar Range Equation.en.html

In a nutshell you have to calculate for the curvature of the earth and antenna height comes into play by allowing the radar to "see" over the horizon.

Some additional light reading on radio fundamentals:

https://robrobinette.com/C-141/radio_fundamentals.htm

Buried in the reading is the fact that HF can go over the horizon and VHF is line-of-sight that is limited in distance by the curvature of the earth. However, line-of-sight is good for satellite communications as you can use lower power and do not have to take into account the curvature of the earth as the satellite is in a straight line from the antenna.

I am sure you will see a theme here.

Edit to add some additional light reading on over the horizon systems. I cut it down to excerpts for the ADD among us. Myself inc.... squirrel!!!!!!!!!! All typos and grammar mistakes are my own and no reflection upon the original author.

http://dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a252766.pdf

LINK 11 Communications by Thor A Simensen. March 1992. Master's Thesis.

This theses provides the reader with an overview of the Link-11 system and what telecommunication assets are needed to operate that system.

II. communication Fundamentals

D. Radio Frequency (RF)

2. Ultra High Frequency
... Depending upon the height of the transmitting and receiving antennas, propagation ranges of 20-30 miles may be expected for ship=to-ship transmissions......

III. General Description

The introduction of over-the-horizon weapons triggered a new era of battle management for the for commander.

Would you like to venture a guess as to the 20-30 mile transmission limitation? You guessed it, the curvature of the earth. ;)
 
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The heavenly bodies are Gods time pieces. The Sun and moon mark the hours in a day, the phases of the moon mark the days in a month, and the rotation of the stars above the stationary earth mark longer time periods like years. It is well organized and easily seen and interpreted.

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I guess you don't like the parts of the Bible where it says the earth is stationary and flat huh.

The truth will always find it's way back to the light. With the advent of the internet and the communities of truth seekers that can now share observations and information it is becoming impossible to keep the truth hidden.

The earth is spherical. Technically it is an oblate spheroid, as pointed out by KOOKY.

It is also billions of years old.

There is not a word in the bible that contradicts those facts.
 
What about Mars? Is it flat? The moon? The sun? All of the other observable objects in the sky? Comets? Asteroids? And if they aren't, if even one of them isn't, then what makes them different? Why do those objects have a completely different physical makeup than Earth?

There are no planets, they don't exist. Mars and all of the other planets are just wandering stars as the ancients believed them to be. Watch the video about above about how the stars produce light by emitting sound within the waters of the firmament.
 
Flat Earthers may be the low point of 21st century nonviolent civilized society. Even worse than anti-vaxers, and chemtrail losers. When presented with actual scientific evidence, they scream conspiracy, photoshops and lies. When presented with nonscientific evidence that appeals to what they want to believe is true, they have blind faith that their "source" is true.

Uneducated Billy Joe FlatEarth puts up a youtube video filmed from his garage, and people take it as gospel. Every credible scientist in the world gives a thousand scientifically proven reasons the Earth is round, along with hundreds of thousands of pictures and video, and Billy Joe FlatEarth's followers flatly dismiss it by shouting conspiracy theory, lies, photoshop.

It's honestly amazing people can be so stupid.

All of the 'flat earthers' that I have met have at least looked into what they have come to believe. You are trusting other people to do your thinking for you.
 
Can't believe I'm replying to this. This new flat earth phase is troubling to say the least.

It's actually a pretty easy thing to prove and we've known that the Earth is round, and about how big it is, since the time of the Ancient Greeks. One way to prove it is to go somewhere flat. A large lake, a long runway or a really flat field and set up a stationary laser on a tripod on shore (or at one end of the field). Attach a large piece of white poster board to a vehicle and park really close to the laser. Mark where the laser intersects the poster board. Then drive in a straight line away from the laser, stopping at intervals to measure where the laser is hitting the board. You'll notice that the further away you go, the higher the laser appears to intersect the board until it overshoots the board entirely. You can use the measurements you gather to calculate just how big the Earth is.

Or watch a ship go over the horizon.
Youtube my friend, it's been done to death.

As far as the ancients go, they made incorrect assumptions to come up with their theories. They have been proven to be wrong. Here's a 4 min video explaining how.

 
I'm not asking anyone to believe me, do the research yourself. Where is the curve. Prove the earth is spinning and not the heavens. If I'm right, then this is the greatest hoax perpetrated in all of human history so do your own research and think.
 
Nope, show me the curve? Prove to me it is the earth that is moving and not the heavens. Tell me what gravity IS not what gravity DOES, because I have much more plausible explanations than some mystical unknowable force for what we observe.
Answer any of my questions from my previous post first. I can show pictures of a round Earth. I can use math to prove it. You have a drawing of frisbee Earth and some YouTube quacks telling you what to believe. Burden of proof is on you, not me.
 
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If the earth is flat and under the firmament it blows the billions of years narrative that is necessary for evolution and erasing the need for God. To answer your question they are hiding evidence of a creator.

interesting theory, you do realize if they were actually using this to hide evidence of a creator, that the Catholic Church (or any God based religion for that matter) would absolutely blow this up in an advertising campaign like you've never seen to get more followers.

But nope, ole Brushy Bill cracked the code. You should tweet the Pope, man

The angle I always take on idiot conspiracy theories is this. In order to pull off decades of conspiracy, you have to have hundreds, or even thousands of *humans* to prop up the conspiracy and keep quiet or support it. You know what humans are? Flighty, flawed idiots who love blowing the cover off the stuff to be the one that did it.

Forget the science, I want you to answer those two retorts
 
Ah, so the 550 humans who orbited Earth lied to us the entire time. Soviet and US space programs represented some huge, outrageous hoax extending back to the 1960s.

Got it.

It goes much further back than the 60's. It goes 500 years back to Copernicus himself and the complicity of the Catholic Church to propagate the myth of a sun centered solar system in an infinite universe removing the first pillar in the Biblical account of creation and paving the way for evolution, billions of years...It is Luciferian in origin and Satan has used it to his advantage in his war with God.

Clearly you hadn't thought of that, considering you can see the curvature of Earth whilst flying.

No you cannot. Not in a plane, not in a balloon, not on a homemade rocket. Once the fisheye lensing effect is understood and you realize that the horizons true shape is only shown when it is in the center of the image, you will see that it is ALWAYS flat.

LOL - Chicago is 594' ASL - the surface of Lake Michigan is 577' ASL.

I damn well hope he could see the Chicago Skyline from that distance.

20 something feet of elevation change does not negate my premise. Redo your math and see that I am correct. Also, why can you see the Superdome from 17 miles away across lake Pontchartrain, or see the Isle of Mann from 70 miles away. It doesn't work on a ball earth!

Can't believe I'm replying to this. This new flat earth phase is troubling to say the least.

It's actually a pretty easy thing to prove and we've known that the Earth is round, and about how big it is, since the time of the Ancient Greeks. One way to prove it is to go somewhere flat. A large lake, a long runway or a really flat field and set up a stationary laser on a tripod on shore (or at one end of the field). Attach a large piece of white poster board to a vehicle and park really close to the laser. Mark where the laser intersects the poster board. Then drive in a straight line away from the laser, stopping at intervals to measure where the laser is hitting the board. You'll notice that the further away you go, the higher the laser appears to intersect the board until it overshoots the board entirely. You can use the measurements you gather to calculate just how big the Earth is.

Or watch a ship go over the horizon.
The laser tests have been done and they prove a flat earth. There is no horizon the ships, sun, moon go beyond your ability to see them at the vanishing point, it's all a matter of PERSPECTIVE, and atmospheric density.

The earth is spherical. Technically it is an oblate spheroid, as pointed out by KOOKY.

It is also billions of years old.

There is not a word in the bible that contradicts those facts.

The Bible explicitly states that the earth is flat and that Adam and Eve and all the plants and animals were CREATED not evolved. Also...
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You're like the reverse Galileo Galilei.

But you have more access to more information than he ever dreamed of having.

I do have more access to information and I have used that access to look at evidence and come to my own conclusions. You should try and do the same.


P.S. someone get Transy some play-doh and a puppy, I think he's been triggered by the flat earth truth.

That alone puts you in a higher position of knowledge.

Bushy Bill>>> Galileo Galilei.

so this guy is right and Einstein was wrong about everything. i heard he was pretty smart so i ain't buying he was wrong.


The great circle routes look good on paper, the math works out and they look humped on your standard flat map of the work. When you plot the plane courses on an Azimuthal Equidistant map however the routes are oddly enough a fairly straight line, hhhmmm. Also flights that originate and end north of the equator traverse the north pole, why don't flights that originate and end south of the equator traverse the south pole?
 
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interesting theory, you do realize if they were actually using this to hide evidence of a creator, that the Catholic Church (or any God based religion for that matter) would absolutely blow this up in an advertising campaign like you've never seen to get more followers.

But nope, ole Brushy Bill cracked the code. You should tweet the Pope, man

The angle I always take on idiot conspiracy theories is this. In order to pull off decades of conspiracy, you have to have hundreds, or even thousands of *humans* to prop up the conspiracy and keep quiet or support it. You know what humans are? Flighty, flawed idiots who love blowing the cover off the stuff to be the one that did it.

Forget the science, I want you to answer those two retorts

The Catholic Church is complicit in the propagation of this false reality, along with every major government in the world. The peons don't know because the do/think as they are told. It's those in charge that are in on it. But to get to that realization you have to look at the evidence for a flat earth and once you come to that conclusion you can speculate on the who, how and why's.
 
You're like the reverse Galileo Galilei.
But you have more access to more information than he ever dreamed of having.

I do have more access to information and I have used that access to look at evidence and come to my own conclusions. You should try and do the same.




That alone puts you in a higher position of knowledge.

Bushy Bill>>> Galileo Galilei.
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I said it already.

You've convinced me.

What's our next move, Bougie Bill?
 
If you simply walk outside and notice the earths shadow on the moon you'll be able to determine its round.

If you then notice the moon isn't always visible and the shadow isn't always in the same place, or there at all, you can come to the conclusion that something is moving.
 
Tesla was correct it's an electromagnetic realm, a toroidal electromagnetic realm to be exact with the north pole on the flat earth as the center of the field.



God's design is perfect and beautiful in every way imaginable.

 
Some of you have asked how the tides work on the flat earth. It's the electromagnetic energy of the sun and the diamagnetic properties of water (especially salt water) pushing the ocean water as it passes by. This electromagnetic energy also causes the coriolis effect that we know exists.

 
so this guy is right and Einstein was wrong about everything. i heard he was pretty smart so i ain't buying he was wrong.
Same with Aristotle, Copernicus and Newton. According to the revolutionary findings I read here, we may as well forget such once-respected, scientific minds.

Those 550 Soviet and American space travelers over the past 55 years? All a GD hoax!

Navigation, especially celestial, appears to have been a millennia-long conspiracy.

I'm writing my congressman ASAP.
 
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Same with Aristotle, Copernicus and Newton. According to the revolutionary findings I read here, we may as well forget such once-respected, scientific minds.

Those 550 Soviet and American space travelers over the past 55 years? All a GD hoax!

Navigation, especially celestial, appears to have been a millennia-long conspiracy.

I'm writing my congressman ASAP.

This is a multi-step process to the truth. Step 1 investigate the shape of the earth (it's flat). Step 2 once you come to the realization the earth is flat identifying who, how, and why they are keeping it from us. Step 3 inform others and spread the truth. Now I've come to the conclusion the earth is flat and I think I have a handle on the why, it's the great Luciferian deception meant to fool mankind into believing that God doesn't exist. How, well Stalin, Hitler, Goebbels etc all knew that if you told a big lie and repeated it often enough people would come to believe it without investigation. And lastly, real 'science' is about gathering data and interpreting it not relying on scientists dead or alive to do that for you, especially with the advances in technology over the last half millennia,that is falling into the trap of the false religion of scientism.
 
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