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The earth is a flat, non spinning realm, not a planet in an infinite universe

Is the Earth Flat or a Globe

  • Flat

    Votes: 10 10.3%
  • Globe

    Votes: 87 89.7%

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Assuming for a second Earth is flat, false. If you can't get far enough to see a curve from Earth, how in the hell is any type of elevation going to magically block out something in the sky even further away?

If density of the atmosphere blocked seeing the night sky, this means seeing the horizon out in the ocean would be a black skyline at night, as that would be the absolute most atmosphere to see through. We know this isn't true.

R U getting soft? U'll B on my team B4 2 long.
 
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Wait, are you now arguing that birds can't fly? You have given me a lot to think about.
 
The hello kitty rocket video from early on in this thread showed the curve, used multiple cameras, and none had fish eye lenses.

Bill doesn't pay his taxes because the income tax is unconstitutional, he torments the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook shooting, and the reason women won't talk to him is because of the feminist anti-male agenda and not because he's a hideous blob of spittle.
 
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The hello kitty rocket video from early on in this thread showed the curve, used multiple cameras, and none had fish eye lenses.

Bill doesn't pay his taxes because the income tax is unconstitutional, he torments the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook shooting, and the reason women won't talk to him is because of the feminist anti-male agenda and not because he's a hideous blob of spittle.

Zero for your entire post, that's some accomplishment right there.
 
I really wish that someone as passionate about 'science' actually understood how it works. Oh well.
Whoa there chief. Science? Usually when we talk about science, we talk about accepted science. If you are talking about the kind of science that says man is responsible tor the temperature of the Earth, then you are done. The only evidence you have is from some paid shills who toe the line.

Science isn't necessary, per se, to prove the Earth is round. Simple observation is proof enough. If you want to argue it's not a perfect sphere, then you will find each of us agrees. If you want to argue that it is not a perfect oblate spheroid, then I will agree with that. No one is going to think it's flat. You don't even believe that with the same dedication that I do that it is round. For that matter, your belief in a god doesn't even come close to the belief that I have that there is not one. I never, not even for one weak moment, believe that there is a god that created the reality we all inhabit. Can you honestly, HONESTLY, say you have never had a doubt?
 
Whoa there chief. Science? Usually when we talk about science, we talk about accepted science. If you are talking about the kind of science that says man is responsible tor the temperature of the Earth, then you are done. The only evidence you have is from some paid shills who toe the line.

Science isn't necessary, per se, to prove the Earth is round. Simple observation is proof enough. If you want to argue it's not a perfect sphere, then you will find each of us agrees. If you want to argue that it is not a perfect oblate spheroid, then I will agree with that. No one is going to think it's flat. You don't even believe that with the same dedication that I do that it is round. For that matter, your belief in a god doesn't even come close to the belief that I have that there is not one. I never, not even for one weak moment, believe that there is a god that created the reality we all inhabit. Can you honestly, HONESTLY, say you have never had a doubt?

YOU haven't observed anything that proves the earth is round that wasn't provided to YOU by someone else, namely NASA. YOU haven't seen a curve, YOU haven't seen the earth moving through 'space'. YOU haven't seen the earth spinning on some axis. YOU are taking the word of others as truth without actually being able to prove that your trust in them is warranted. I've got experimental and observational proof on my side, you've got blind trust in supposed authority figures on yours. For crying out loud you cant even say with certainty that gravity exists much less 'what' it 'is'.
 
YOU haven't observed anything that proves the earth is round that wasn't provided to YOU by someone else, namely NASA. YOU haven't seen a curve, YOU haven't seen the earth moving through 'space'. YOU haven't seen the earth spinning on some axis. YOU are taking the word of others as truth without actually being able to prove that your trust in them is warranted. I've got experimental and observational proof on my side, you've got blind trust in supposed authority figures on yours. For crying out loud you cant even say with certainty that gravity exists much less 'what' it 'is'.
Nope. Have someone pay for you a flight on one of them new fangled airplanes. You can see it for yourself. What you will realize is that the limited field of view you have been provided is no where near the field of view you are afforded out that small window. You can see it for yourself just like each of us has seen many times.

Stop this flat Earth shit and get on with your shit about your god. We can spend the next 20 pages telling you that you are actually an atheist as far as all the other gods are concerned. You believe in exactly ONE more god than I do and you think that makes you special. Well, I guess it does. It makes you a special fool. Keep begging for my respect. I'd sooner give it to a mooslum who at least knows the Earth is round.
 

I do have another question you can help me with.

So what I am starting to learn from you:

Flat earth
No gravity
No stars
Etc.

Please tell me how long range oceanic navigation works.

If the Inertial Navigation, GPS, etc. that the ships I served on were actually a hoax I truly would like to know how we actually were navigating.

Oh yeah, when we were dead in the water in the middle of the south Atlantic at midnight (thousands of miles from anywhere or anyone) just what the hell where all of those millions of tiny light we were seeing in the sky?
 
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I do have another question you can help me with.

So what I am starting to learn from you:

Flat earth
No gravity
No stars
Etc.

Please tell me how long range oceanic navigation works.

If the Inertial Navigation, GPS, etc. that the ships I served on were actually a hoax I truly would like to know how we actually were navigating.

Oh yeah, when we were dead in the water in the middle of the south Atlantic at midnight (thousands of miles from anywhere or anyone) just what the hell where all of those millions of tiny light we were seeing in the sky?
+1.

Add in astrolabe and sextant applicable to mariners of the middle ages.
 
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Unless they circumnavigate it with land out the windows of one side and water outside the windows of the other while making no course corrections and an easily marked starting and ending point then these flights are proof of nothing. But hey, you knew that already, didn't you.

It's proof that you can fly over Antarctica, and there's no one guarding it. Of course, if you want to go and put your feet on the ground, you can do that too. Fly to Antarctica, explore the regions, fly to the South Pole and explore with this outfitter, which is just one of many.......

https://www.polar-quest.com/trips/antarctica/fly-to-the-south-pole-2017
 
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It's proof that you can fly over Antarctica, and there's no one guarding it. Of course, if you want to go and put your feet on the ground, you can do that too. Fly to Antarctica, explore the regions, fly to the South Pole and explore with this outfitter, which is just one of many.......

https://www.polar-quest.com/trips/antarctica/fly-to-the-south-pole-2017

Honest question are being dumb or are you brain damaged. I've explained why it is you can charter trips to Antarctica but you CANNOT go there without permission.
 
Honest question are being dumb or are you brain damaged. I've explained why it is you can charter trips to Antarctica but you CANNOT go there without permission.

I had to get permission to go to Brazil and Argentina for work too. Hell, I had to get permission to go to The Bahamas.
 
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You realize you lazy asshole can look this stuff up for yourself. I'm going to look into those things because I'm curious about them as well, you can keep the sanctimonious bullshit to yourself.
I assume you are talking to me.

I posted research and articles for you. You said you would research them and let me know where they are wrong.

You keep saying we are dumb asses, "look at this YouTube video, fish eye lenses, etc."

That we don't real world examples and experiences.

Just to let you know my experience.

I was an Electronics Technician and Instructor in the Navy I had training in radar systems and specialized in communications, deep ocean survey, along with various and sundry types of equipment that is not pertinent to this conversation.

After that I taught ground school for a regional airline for aircraft systems, procedures, navigation, etc.

So I have real world experience with and observations of everything I have added to this conversation.

You appear to not have or believe anyone have these experiences. Well put up or shut up.

You have not been able to disprove any of the questions or articles I have posted. There are no fish-eye lenses or cute memes to counter my questions.

You tried to play it off and say you would get back to me. That is why I keep bringing it up.

To add about Antarctica. My in-laws were part of the crew that filmed BBC's Life in the Freezer that I linked earlier.

Now my father-in-law could possibly be part of some big conspiracy theory. But I doubt it.

But my bunny hugging, tree loving, hippie, liberal mother-in-law (who I love and respect) there is NO way she is part of a government cover-up.

Instead of me trying to prove to you these things are real, I asked you to prove they are not.

You are making the extraordinary claims. You need to provided the extraordinary proof.

:)
 
Still would like to see proof of this edge. You're the only person I know or have ever spoken to that believes in it, so I guess the burden of proof is on you, wouldn't you say? Billions of years of Earth (or around 6000, at least) and not one iota of proof?
 
I assume you are talking to me.

I posted research and articles for you. You said you would research them and let me know where they are wrong.

You keep saying we are dumb asses, "look at this YouTube video, fish eye lenses, etc."

That we don't real world examples and experiences.

Just to let you know my experience.

I was an Electronics Technician and Instructor in the Navy I had training in radar systems and specialized in communications, deep ocean survey, along with various and sundry types of equipment that is not pertinent to this conversation.

After that I taught ground school for a regional airline for aircraft systems, procedures, navigation, etc.

So I have real world experience with and observations of everything I have added to this conversation.

You appear to not have or believe anyone have these experiences. Well put up or shut up.

You have not been able to disprove any of the questions or articles I have posted. There are no fish-eye lenses or cute memes to counter my questions.

You tried to play it off and say you would get back to me. That is why I keep bringing it up.

To add about Antarctica. My in-laws were part of the crew that filmed BBC's Life in the Freezer that I linked earlier.

Now my father-in-law could possibly be part of some big conspiracy theory. But I doubt it.

But my bunny hugging, tree loving, hippie, liberal mother-in-law (who I love and respect) there is NO way she is part of a government cover-up.

Instead of me trying to prove to you these things are real, I asked you to prove they are not.

You are making the extraordinary claims. You need to provided the extraordinary proof.

:)

Too bad you didn't learn critical thinking skills while you were being taught things that other people had "figured out". Hey you figured out what gravity is yet? I'm not talking about what it supposedly does, I mean what it really 'is'.
 
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