Thamel said UK was going after Donovan
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I never said a new coach should be here to end generational poverty. I'm very much a sinner. At the same time, I would love for our new coach to be a God fearing man. If he's not, that's his prerogative.
If they shared an interest in golf would that be a disqualifier? How about a common interest in muscle cars? In 70's classic rock?
Did Mitch hire Billy G, and then Calipari, so they could attend bible meetings together? I think not
Drew is a good coach, even if he's not everyone's first choice.
This is a horrible take.
I think it would all be a disqualifier if you're giving that guy preference over better options because he's your friend (and shares your views), but what do I know?
Christianity has its place like everything else. This should be a situation where it isn't the place. Business and religion rarely mix, and all most of us fans want is for someone in charge with the right intentions to do his job to the best of his ability, outside if moral conflict.
Mitch didn’t officially “hire” Cal. He let a committee do it. This time if he hires Drew, there will be more than just “he can coach” tied to it. The religion sharing piece is one thing, but in the interviews I’ve seen of Drew, he’s just as goofy and conservative acting as Barney. Two peas in a pod, and one hired for the wrong reasons.
And I didn't say you said that. I only asked you if it would offend you if the coach wasn't a Christian. Clearly it would bother you. You think people who don't agree with you are "funny". I'm glad you're not part of the hiring process.
That's perfectly fair. I just found it humorous I got attacked by several on here who I normally agree with when I defended Christianity...
Every talking head I've kept track of since last night has mentioned "potential" candidates for UK but nothing is concrete at this point. Tonight, Drew has garnered a lot of traction as allegedly players families are being told he's been offered. No way of know if that is true, but, assuming it is, that's a pretty quick trigger on a very iffy hire with a ton of bigger names out there.
Why jump the gun?
So we'd be better off if our AD and head ball coach do not like each other, disrespect the boss and talk once a year, I think we have seen that movie before.
I just said it wouldn't offend me. I'm friends with people from all walks of life. But, if the new coach was a God fearing man, it would make me like him that much more.
No one is attacking you or Christianity. A lot of us r Christians. We r just saying that u can't hire someone based on ur own beliefs when it isn't the best business decision. And let's NOT forget that Drew isnt exactly squeaky clean n the morality department....he's had his own issues.
I’m fine with Donovan first. Obviously, you make that hire first. Hands down, no doubt. Doesn’t matter what he’s done lately or that he doesn’t have a team ready. You have to make that hire.
But I’m not going to say Drew, who’s established and with guys like Edge coming, might not be a better pick at the end of the day. Drew would have a team assembled quickly, and would retain many of our players.
Having said that, Jeff and Reed might just stick around for Donovan. And it would be the biggest splash in college basketball since Cal came to Lexington. We’d have Donovan. You have to and it would solidify Kentucky as the goat program. It would be huge. But is Donovan still as hungry as he ever was? I don’t have the answer to that question.
Also, I'm laugh reacting because you seem mighty flustered that I'm not agreeing with you. I do find it cute that you went back and laughed at my perfectly level response to someone else though.
Well, we could hire a couple more alcoholics. I mean that worked out so well for us......geesh
Who on here at any point said you should hire someone based on their religious affiliations? You are beating a dead horse.
Maybe, but maybe after all these years he would rather deal with the college game than never having a shot at really winning anything. Maybe he misses being in part of a sport where he has more control of whether his team wins or not.
I don’t know either way, but I have to think losing can get tiring after a while.
Again, not making this argument at all. But Mitch running to Drew the instant he gets another shot at a coach isn't because Drew is coming off of a steamer run in the final four or any other barometer of a great coach. That's my argument. In a world where there is potential for names like Wright, Donovan, Oats, Pearl, Floyd etc. why are we locking in on a guy that has double digit losses in 8 of his last 12 seasons? Has only won 1 in 4 against Kansas?
Something is off here, that's all this is.
Why did you feel the need to defend it? I’m lost as to how this got to this point. Your religion is dominating in the US and around the world, just as you prefer. You really have no need to defend it, do you?
And why would you ask someone else if their bible studying offended them? Sounds like you’re itching for a religious debate, when all the guy implied was it’s not a good thing to hire a basketball coach because you share the same religious/political views. You set that stuff aside and hire them because they are the best guy for the JOB.
What a strange, adorable response. Have a nice night, hun.
Again, you are making a lot of assumptions. I’m sure they have reached out to a variety of coaches to gauge interest. Once you get past a couple of names, Drew is as good as anyone. How do you know the top tier coaches haven’t already given a hard no?
Here, let's say this more plainly, hire Scott Drew if he's the best man for the job and you think you can't do better.
I think we can do better and people that are insiders say we really aren't trying to do better. Why is that?
I think we can do better and people that are insiders say we really aren't trying to do better. Why is that?
You’re swinging this a bit too wildly. Barney is a goofy cornball who moves and decides things very conservatively. Drew strikes me as the same kind of person. Methodically conservative, not aggressive.
This has nothing to do with wanting a drunk idiot as a coach. Stay on track here.
What exactly is your issue with me? I've always agreed with the three of you who are all of the sudden attacking me for making a comment defending Christianity.
Because you typically indicate in your "No" that you've been contacted about a position. Oats' statement is as vanilla a "no" as exists. Insiders like Thamel, Trilly, Norlander etc. have all said that UK seems to be honing in on Drew (with no indication that we've contacted any of the S tier coaches) and there's a history between Drew and Mitch.
Also, Mitch tends to do this. He finds his guy and just goes with it. He's about 50-50 on these hires.
We know Wright isn’t interested. Oats said he is staying with Alabama after apparently being contacted by UK. Pearl has won less than Drew. I’m not sure why he is on your list. Donovan hasn’t coached in college in 15 years. He would not be high on my list. Lloyd is about like Drew in my opinion. I would be fine with him. Of the people on your list most seem to be out, so why not Drew?
I'm not attacking u. Never was. Nor Christianity. I'm just saying that the guy paid to make a business decision doesn't get to invoke his moral high ground when making what should be a business decision that will affect sooooo many Ppl based on his religious beliefs. You said I was bearing a dead horse. I was literally just responding to you.
The ridiculous Calipari extension was not very conservative for a bean counter. Can we agree on that?
Every coach that is contacted through back channels doesn’t issue a public saying saying what happened. You will never know everyone who was contacted.
Well, I'm sorry if that offended you, it wasn't my intent. You were just like the third person to come at me for a simple question I asked.
Mitch didn’t hire him himself, he assigned a committee and boosters had to basically convince Mitch to do it. It was all over the place back then that this was how it was done. Let’s hope he does it again this time, but if he decides to do it himself, and it’s Drew, we will know (or have good suspicions) why.
I can't until we lose in the second round next year and Mitch and Drew get together to sing Kumbaya, watch Veggie Tales, and pray for the following year to be better.
That’s nothing but an assumption on your part and you’re treating it like its fact. You have no idea whether that enters into his decision making or not. That being said, I want him to hire an ethical person.
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