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Taylor Swift

I'm not making fun of anyone. I'm simply stating outside of adult men watching her because she's hot, I don't think there are many straight men into going to see a bunch of choreographed dance routine pop. Not sure how anyone could avoid hairband era makeup on dudes anyway. Yeah, Dio was a peculiar dude to be sure. But his vocal talent is undeniable and world apart from Swift's vocal ability. Sorry, her actual talent is very suspect to me. And I'm not saying that because i don't like the genre. For example, you couldn't give me a free ticket to see lady gaga, but her vocal talent is undeniable.
Yep. Lots of British cigarette talk in this thread.
 
I'd like to hear your review of NG. I've become a pretty big Oasis fan but the solo NG stuff hasn't really grabbed me. A little too soft, too singer/songwriter, I suspect too 'artistic' and taking itself too seriously for my taste. While there are at least 20 Oasis songs I think are damn good, I've only heard a couple of his solo stuff that I think measure up (vastly different genres, imo, at this point). I've actually liked more of Liam's solo material although it's pretty derivative of Oasis. I'd be interested to hear if he puts on a good live show. TIA
I've been an Oasis Fanboy since I was 18 in 1994. Only got to see them 1x in 2005. I think would prefer to see Liam solo but I'll take Noel. I really like his newest album. Was not a fan of his space music from a few years ago.
 
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I believe her dad is now the largest producing financial advisor for Merrill Lynch.
 
Tonight will be epic shit show for traffic in Cincy, will need a helicopter to get anywhere

Didn’t end up that bad for me. Maybe it’s because I parked on 9th and was far enough away. Lots of foot traffic around the stadiums obviously. The show was moved up an hour because of the weather which was a smart move. As soon as she went off stage the signs started flashing to leave the stadium due to weather. When I got to my car it was storming pretty bad. Would have been a disaster if the show had started when it was supposed to.
 
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Didn’t end up that bad for me. Maybe it’s because I parked on 9th and was far enough away. Lots of foot traffic around the stadiums obviously. The show was moved up an hour because of the weather which was a smart move. As soon as she went off stage the signs started flashing to leave the stadium due to weather. When I got to my car it was storming pretty bad. Would have been a disaster if the show had started when it was supposed to.
I think that happened in the middle of one of the Nashville shows and they had a 2 hour delay and it ended at 1am or something ridiculous like that.
 
A show...nothing more. It definitely isn't a musical concert.

Is Taylor talented...perhaps, but she is predominantly the product of excellent marketing to the target audience. She knows the game and is playing it well, despite being subpar in the overall "musicianship" category, including vocally.
She has a great voice. What is wrong with you?
 
She has a great voice. What is wrong with you?
More likely she has a great sound engineer that auto tunes the hell out of everything. She's not the only one for sure. And, to my knowledge, no one's accused her of lip synching like so many performers these days. I mean, wtf, is up with going to a concert and a bunch of stuff is prerecorded? F*** that. Rather hear TS warble off key to rancid pop music than watch someone lip synch and basically rip their entire audience off.
 
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Wife and I went to both nights. Two amazing shows. Had front row tickets on the floor for Friday. Got a video of her coming over to us and looking right into my camera as she sang. Pretty cool moment for my wife as she is such a big fan.

We had an Airbnb that was maybe a 5 minute walk to the stadium. Perfect weekend all around.
 
I don't have a problem with highly successful ppl.

I couldn't name a song since her teenage country yrs. Know nothing of her pop music. But she is killing it. Can't hate her for that. I will leave modern pop to my daughter and wife.

Tho my teenage daughter has entered a late 80s - 90s rock phase and playing records instead of her phone. So I'm digging that. I can relate to what she is listening to more now than ever lol.
 
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Can't say she's the most overrated but definitely overrated in my opinion. Both musically and physically. She's probably got 200 million or more dollar bills to wipe away the tears she'll cry when she finds out I don't like her music or think she's not much better than about a 5. (Tall, gawky and horse faced just doesn't do it for me).
-200 million 😂 she’s making $500-700 million in this tour alone grossing $5-7 million per show…

-Bunch of haters that’ll never be 1/100000000000 as successful as her at anything.

People love to hate success. Starvation mentality is for sorry ass hoes like you all.
 
Taylor's "the 1" is a great song and it's not a "typical" pop song. Just give it a try.


Most of the haters have actually never sat and listened to any actual album of hers, so it's hard to take their opinions seriously.

I mean, Red, 1989, and Folklore are absolute top-notch songwriting and storytelling. To try and deny that she's not a massively talented songwriter is comical.
 
-200 million 😂 she’s making $500-700 million in this tour alone grossing $5-7 million per show…

-Bunch of haters that’ll never be 1/100000000000 as successful as her at anything.

People love to hate success. Starvation mentality is for sorry ass hoes like you all.
Ok, that might be going a little overboard. She’s probably not everyone’s cup of tea. I personally never got the whole Black Crowes thing—but whatever.
 
-200 million 😂 she’s making $500-700 million in this tour alone grossing $5-7 million per show…

-Bunch of haters that’ll never be 1/100000000000 as successful as her at anything.

People love to hate success. Starvation mentality is for sorry ass hoes like you all.
There have been a lot of successful musical performers that didn't have overwhelming talent. She certainly isn't the first or the last (can someone say KISS?). Monetary success does not equal talent. Just like unbelievable talent doesn't always translate into commercial success. Right place/right time, talent and luck are huge variables.

I don't hate her at all. I literally nothing her. Generally give her newest songs a listen and, invariably, they don't grab me. She can make all the money she wants and I'll applaud her. I won't change my opinion that there are a bunch of singers >> TS that won't make .000001% of what she's making. Fact.
 
Taylor's "the 1" is a great song and it's not a "typical" pop song. Just give it a try.

Nice song. Different from some of her more recent hits which sound like mass-produced pop. Never said she had NO talent - just overrated. I mean her fans are absolutely obsessed with her as is the media.

Personally, I like Taylor Momsen's voice (The Pretty Reckless) much better, not to mention their style is a lot closer to my preference. But, hey, to each their own. If more of TS's songs were like that one, I might actually change my mind. Weird, huh?
 
I think her voice is fine I just don't like her songs. I don't like the music and the lyrics are all the same about her and an ex boyfriend. It's just not my thing. However, lots of people like her and that is what makes the world go around.

I have to say when her new album came out I noticed on ITunes that a lot of the songs had an explicit "E" beside them. I looked through the lyrics and she has either tried to reinvent herself or no longer wants to be considered a teeny bopper performer. Her lyrics had loads of cursing and "F" bombs.
 
I think her voice is fine I just don't like her songs. I don't like the music and the lyrics are all the same about her and an ex boyfriend. It's just not my thing. However, lots of people like her and that is what makes the world go around.

I have to say when her new album came out I noticed on ITunes that a lot of the songs had an explicit "E" beside them. I looked through the lyrics and she has either tried to reinvent herself or no longer wants to be considered a teeny bopper performer. Her lyrics had loads of cursing and "F" bombs.
So like a Miley Cyrus trajectory?
 
Some people act like they’ve never seen a pretty girl “sing” before

Britney > Aguilera > Katy Perry > Underwood > Swift
 
Some people act like they’ve never seen a pretty girl “sing” before

Britney > Aguilera > Katy Perry > Underwood > Swift
Yeah but she’s way more talented than those tit goblins, she actually plays multiple instruments and writes her own songs. And if she wasn’t different than them and better why did she have more money than them all combined.
 
Yeah but she’s way more talented than those tit goblins, she actually plays multiple instruments and writes her own songs. And if she wasn’t different than them and better why did she have more money than them all combined.
They never had the opportunity to play in the mega venues - imagine when Britney and Aguilera came out and played in stadiums - they’d draw mega crowds too. Swift is coming at a post covid era where everyone has been couped up for 3 years and msgve she makes these girls feel relatable b/c she writes her songs. Garth was drawing crazy crowds at his stadium shows before covid forced him to cancel them.
 
I don't think she's that far behind talents like McCartney and others in terms of her songwriting ability.

Well, hell...and here I thought those that thought Biden was a great POTUS were the lowest on the intelligence good chain.
 
Wife and I went to both nights. Two amazing shows. Had front row tickets on the floor for Friday. Got a video of her coming over to us and looking right into my camera as she sang. Pretty cool moment for my wife as she is such a big fan.

We had an Airbnb that was maybe a 5 minute walk to the stadium. Perfect weekend all around.

One of the biggest flexes yet. Either you're rich or you're now poor. I can't imagine the price tag of that weekend.

Generally speaking I'm glad people enjoy her but I must admit I find the over the top infatuation somewhat strange. Short of a religious figure, I can't think of anyone that garners such an intense following.

Also let's be honest: her main talent is surrounding herself with exceptional marketing and production minds. Her vocals are meh, her looks are meh, but her work ethic and marketing team are top notch elite. They know her market and she throws feeds that market into a frenzy. It's truly one of the greatest, if not the greatest, marketing job in the history of entertainment (I think she's with universal).
 
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