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Stoops v Cal Media Fight

I think you nailed it. I believe Stoops was a guy ready to spend his career here but Cal's comment could put doubt in his mind. If AU doesn't win 8 games expect them to call CMS.
They can call. He might bail if this festers, but it won't be for that asylum. He's too smart to coach at Auburn.
 
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Has Cal heard that he is getting a watch at the Christmas party, and Mark is getting a Cadillac?
😁The current situation does sort of resemble the Bryant V. Rupp situation back in the day. Basketball and Football had reached an impasse, basketball won. Some people think had Bryant stayed and Rupp left Kentucky would have become a football school and basketball would have been second tier, but who knows? At any rate football is getting arguably better while basketball has sort of been spinning wheels. Football is gaining fan support while basketball seems to be losing some. Football oriented fans seem positive and have a good time most of the season while basketball oriented fans seem to stay in a state of constant frustration. I hope this situation becomes resolved and the two programs and their head coaches align themselves behind the one university and show mutual respect and unity. I don't want to see a split and one sport feels like they are the loser. Bottom line as Mitch has always preached we can be great and EVERYTHING not just one thing.
 
I can't believe that Stoops is that worked over a comment that is obviously true. He wasn't disparaging football, just stating a fact. I'm a football first UK fan, but it's clear this is a basketball school as much as th
Stoops has been fighting against this “basketball school” rhetoric for years. If your wife had weight issues for years and was finally making real progress, would you decide to tell her she’s still fat right when her hard work was starting to pay off.

Mark Stoops program is hot and Cal called it “cute but still kinda chubby”

Unbeleivably tone deaf and insulting to the hard work of the football staff and players.
 
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I think you nailed it. I believe Stoops was a guy ready to spend his career here but Cal's comment could put doubt in his mind. If AU doesn't win 8 games expect them to call CMS.
Actually I've been thinking for some time now that this will be Stoops last year at UK, even before dipshit's comments. The foot dragging on the whole track/Nutter thing will turn out to be the initial nudge toward the door. Don't think it'll be Auburn but a Midwest school instead, Iowa probably. He'll want to go where he has full control.
 
😁The current situation does sort of resemble the Bryant V. Rupp situation back in the day. Basketball and Football had reached an impasse, basketball won. Some people think had Bryant stayed and Rupp left Kentucky would have become a football school and basketball would have been second tier, but who knows? At any rate football is getting arguably better while basketball has sort of been spinning wheels. Football is gaining fan support while basketball seems to be losing some. Football oriented fans seem positive and have a good time most of the season while basketball oriented fans seem to stay in a state of constant frustration. I hope this situation becomes resolved and the two programs and their head coaches align themselves behind the one university and show mutual respect and unity. I don't want to see a split and one sport feels like they are the loser. Bottom line as Mitch has always preached we can be great and EVERYTHING not just one thing.
I agree. I love both sports and want both to be champions.
 
Actually I've been thinking for some time now that this will be Stoops last year at UK, even before dipshit's comments. The foot dragging on the whole track/Nutter thing will turn out to be the initial nudge toward the door. Don't think it'll be Auburn but a Midwest school instead, Iowa probably. He'll want to go where he has full control.
The Nebraska position could be 1 to make us very nervous. He & Vince could still recruit the Midwest. Wouldn't have to beg for facilities or NIL. Def no bball coach trying to hog the spotlight.
 
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They can call. He might bail if this festers, but it won't be for that asylum. He's too smart to coach at Auburn.

The Nebraska position could be 1 to make us very nervous. He & Vince could still recruit the Midwest. Wouldn't have to beg for facilities or NIL. Def no bball coach trying to hog the spotlight.

FWIW, I think your AD gets this under control, but would Vince be considered for the head coach if Stoops did move on?
 
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The Nebraska position could be 1 to make us very nervous. He & Vince could still recruit the Midwest. Wouldn't have to beg for facilities or NIL. Def no bball coach trying to hog the spotlight.
Cal will be gone before Stoops. The Big Time Donors are all behind Stoops and NOT Cal. Mitch worked QUICKLY to get the football program the money for a new indoor practice upgrade that's why Cal is PISSED at Mitch and KICKED the football program to show his displeasure.

Cal is a narcissistic _SS!!
 
FWIW, I think your AD gets this under control, but would Vince be considered for the head coach if Stoops did move on?
Probably... if he wanted to be, rather than follow Stoops. I don't think coordinator experience is necessary. Ultimately, I agree that this probably does not lead to his exit. In fact, I think Stoops might simply dig in his heels. It's kind of his nature, and I love it.
 
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Cal will be gone before Stoops. The Big Time Donors are all behind Stoops and NOT Cal. Mitch worked QUICKLY to get the football program the money for a new indoor practice upgrade that's why Cal is PISSED at Mitch and KICKED the football program to show his displeasure.

Cal is a narcissistic _SS!!
The willingness to accept or ability to ignore his narcissism is what I find most disappointing in the legion of front running UK hoops fans.
 
Probably... if he wanted to be, rather than follow Stoops. I don't think coordinator experience is necessary. Ultimately, I agree that this probably does not lead to his exit. In fact, I think Stoops might simply dig in his heels. It's kind of his nature, and I love it.

No idea how old Vince is, but he looks at least mid 50's. He may have no ambition to be a head coach. Sam Pittman was a longtime OL coach, never been a coordinator. At 59 Arkansas came calling to offer him the Arkansas job. As you know he accepted, hire a couple top level coordinators and has the program on the rise. So there is precedent for a non coordinator to be successful, Beamer is another. But I think this gets smoothed over, they may never like each other much, but the public downgrading of the other's program is over.
 
Really disappointing, but not surprising public comments by Cal. Completely uncalled for.

If you want to politic for your basketball program and funds for new facilities, by all means. Do that by propping up the historical significance of your program vs your peers — other college basketball programs. We are a blue blood in college basketball, make the argument on the merits of your own program because you have all the ammo in the world there.

But don’t do it by trying to put the rising football program in its place, publicly. I’d be absolutely livid if I were Mark Stoops. I’m livid as a fan that wants Mark Stoops to get all the resources he can to continue building on the success he’s had here, which is unprecedented in my lifetime.
Well said
Opposing football coaches use the "UK is a basketball school" line to recruit against UK. Now we have a high profile coach, within the UK athletic department, telling the world that UK is a basketball school. It is very difficult to recruit high profile players to UK. While Stoops has done a remarkable job upgrading the tallent, he needs every little advantage he can get to move UK up the ladder. I don't care if Cal's comments are true. There was no good reason for him to say that in public. He should have went to Mitch face to face to get the new practice facility. Trying to drum up public support by belittling the football program through the media was the wrong approach.
 
I hope Stoops and Vince pay him a visit to clear this little matter up.

Cal needs a can of Youngstown for supper.

Arrogant POS.

Cal did more damage to FB recruiting in 30 seconds that will take CMS and Big Dog months to overcome.

It takes a real A-hole to continually do stupid crap to divide this fanbase. Cal is the biggest one ever to coach at UK. And yes, bigger Ahole than BCG and Pitino.
Eventually people show you who they really are. Cal did it in spades.
 
Calipari is adding fuel to the fire that will consume him if the basketball team has an underwhelming finish again this year.
 
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It's hard to believe 60% more Americans prefer baseball to college football.
Like that really represents American interest! I could put slanted polls up all day long and get a product to say anything
 
Stoops has every right to be pissed . Cal is the one who started this and Mitch if he had any balls would have called out Cal and not Stoops. I support both FB & BB. Cal needs to keep mouth shut !
 
Is Florida a football school? LSU? Penn State? Iowa? Only football schools win 10 games and a New Years bowl. I have gone to one basketball game in the past 10 years at Rupp, and was bored. I love my football season tix. Cal stepped in it and damn well better look like a basketball school this post season. Because, it’s been a minute.
 
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Larry Vaughn has an interesting take on BB v. FB:

. . . . . if one were to look a things like growing or declining fan attendance, momentum and trajectory of the programs and the level of fan unrest for both programs it would appear from anecdotal evidence that football has actually evened up with basketball at the University of Kentucky.

 
Probably a good idea to start trying to move the public narrative away from this dust up, so I give him credit for that. Football season will be starting soon and no one will be talking abut this anymore.
As far as I see it over the next few days:

Cal should own it and apologize [check]
Stoops should accept the apology
They squash it privately w/ Barnhardt and Capilouto present
All four put out a press statement

Probably ends up a net win. Cal is humbled a bit, and Stoops looks like an alpha for his team, his recruits, and national media. On the down side, Alabama/Clemson/Oklahoma boosters probably all like Stoops more than ever for whenever they and other blue bloods have their next opening.
 
Stoops has been fighting against this “basketball school” rhetoric for years. If your wife had weight issues for years and was finally making real progress, would you decide to tell her she’s still fat right when her hard work was starting to pay off.

Mark Stoops program is hot and Cal called it “cute but still kinda chubby”

Unbeleivably tone deaf and insulting to the hard work of the football staff and players.
So would you tell her she is supermodel skinny? Probably not, probably more like you are doing great and I hope it continues.
like hoping for ten wins?

Listen, it was a dumb comment… very stupid; but your analogy is pretty much what he did
 
The first thing that those coaches say when competing against UK football for recruits is that UK is a football school. Who is Calipari getting paid by Alabama or Georgia? The damage has been done and can’t be undone by an apology by Calipari. Barnhart should fine him 1 million dollars and put the money into a collective for football players only. This may appease the recruits
 
He belittled the team by condescendingly intimating that 10 wins is their ceiling and that they won't be playing for championships like UGA and Bama do.
Yeah it wasn’t just basketball school he went on to Pooh Pooh it like ‘yeah, go ahead, do good and all that but we’re what matters…’

UK is finally competitive in the sport the conference cares about. He doesn’t seem to like it or get it either one.
 
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The Nebraska position could be 1 to make us very nervous. He & Vince could still recruit the Midwest. Wouldn't have to beg for facilities or NIL. Def no bball coach trying to hog the spotlight.

Barnhardt's comments didn't sound like he was overly focused about mending fences either. Not sure yet what to make of that.
 
The first thing that those coaches say when competing against UK football for recruits is that UK is a football school. Who is Calipari getting paid by Alabama or Georgia? The damage has been done and can’t be undone by an apology by Calipari. Barnhart should fine him 1 million dollars and put the money into a collective for football players only. This may appease the recruits
Don't drag UGA or Bama into this,
 
Larry Vaughn has an interesting take on BB v. FB:

. . . . . if one were to look a things like growing or declining fan attendance, momentum and trajectory of the programs and the level of fan unrest for both programs it would appear from anecdotal evidence that football has actually evened up with basketball at the University of Kentucky.

August 14, 2022 maybe. Historically not even close.
 
I think you nailed it. I believe Stoops was a guy ready to spend his career here but Cal's comment could put doubt in his mind. If AU doesn't win 8 games expect them to call CMS.
I had the same thought Grump. I said so hope this does effect Stoops outlookYou’d like to think Stoops is just rolling his eyes at Cal like the rest of us but you never know. Might make him start asking where’s my lifetime contract.
I guess Cal saw what he was going to havethis coming season and thinking he will get #2 so he is doing some talking. But this isn't the old SEC in BB any longer, AU, Arky and UT are all fielding good teams and it won't be a cakewalk. AU did the exhibitions too, don't know about the others. Our new BB coach get his key to practice arena in about 6 weeks.
yeah he tends to lay low when things are so positive but when they start trending his way he feels his oats and the jaw starts working overtime.
 
I had the same thought Grump. I said so hope this does effect Stoops outlookYou’d like to think Stoops is just rolling his eyes at Cal like the rest of us but you never know. Might make him start asking where’s my lifetime contract.

yeah he tends to lay low when things are so positive but when they start trending his way he feels his oats and the jaw starts working overtime.

I don't really know him and don't want to say negative things about one of your coaches no matter haw mad yall are at him. But I watched some of their exhibition game, talk about being loaded, long, lean and athletic. I could win 30 games coaching that team. So yeah I agree with you, feeling it and wanting to get some attention.
 
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