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Stoops v Cal Media Fight

I really can't believe he would say that, not doubting he said it, just surprising.
This is pure John Calipari. He thinks he is still in New England. I doubt when he became UK's coach he could located SEC schools on a map of the United States.

He is John Calipari and that is what you get when you put him on your payroll. The man's ego is at times unbearable. He lost some games to schools that don't even play football so he should be reflecting on that and not be envious of our football team.
 
I hope Stoops and Vince pay him a visit to clear this little matter up.

Cal needs a can of Youngstown for supper.

Arrogant POS.

Cal did more damage to FB recruiting in 30 seconds that will take CMS and Big Dog months to overcome.

It takes a real A-hole to continually do stupid crap to divide this fanbase. Cal is the biggest one ever to coach at UK. And yes, bigger Ahole than BCG and Pitino.
 
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I'm well aware of our basketball tradition and as a UK fan I appreciate it as the many books and prints in my house would attest. But I also feel like college basketball is increasingly a niche sport. Officiating is horrible, cheating has no repercussions for all of our rivals except Louisville and one and done has really killed a lot of passion for my sense of them being "my team". Most of the country doesn't care except here, Kansas and NC. The Final Four is on TBS now. I get joy out of the big games but only time it's a serious high is from a Final Four or better. That could be because UK basketball has spoiled me in a way that fans of 98% of other schools that aren't named Alabama, Notre Dame, or Duke wouldn't understand.

That being said, nothing gives me total joy the way a big football win does. The wins last year against Florida (who was still full of steam after their moral victory against Bama and not the same team USC and Mizzou played) and the bowl win against Iowa made me giddy for days. We've gotten a couple of those wins each year for the last 5 seasons and basketball hasn't done that for me since 2012. Where the football team has come from to get to this point after years of neglect from the powers that be has been a true joy to watch.

We all know or are in families with multiple siblings where one shines a little brighter than the others, they have the looks, the smarts, the social ability, the athleticism, everything comes easier for them than everybody else. That's our basketball program. Then there is another one where everything is a little harder, they're in the others shadow, but keep working and in time through a lot of perseverance they come into their own. That's our football program. You're proud of both, your expectations are a little different for each one but you love them both. For the one who has everything to try and put himself above a brother like that is narcissistic and really disappointing.
 
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I'm well aware of our basketball tradition and as a UK fan I appreciate it as the many books and prints in my house would attest. But I also feel like college basketball is increasingly a niche sport. Officiating is horrible, cheating has no repercussions for all of our rivals except Louisville and one and done has really killed a lot of passion for my sense of them being "my team". Most of the country doesn't care except here, Kansas and NC. The Final Four is on TBS now. I get joy out of the big games but only time it's a serious high is from a Final Four or better. That could be because UK basketball has spoiled me in a way that fans of 98% of other schools that aren't named Alabama, Notre Dame, or Duke wouldn't understand.

That being said, nothing gives me total joy the way a big football win does. The wins last year against Florida (who was still full of steam after their moral victory against Bama and not the same team USC and Mizzou played) and the bowl win against Iowa made me giddy for days. We've gotten a couple of those wins each year for the last 5 seasons and basketball hasn't done that for me since 2012. Where the football team has come from to get to this point after years of neglect from the powers that be has been a true joy to watch.

We all know or are in families with multiple siblings where one shines a little brighter than the others, they have the looks, the smarts, the social ability, the athleticism, everything comes easier for them than everybody else. That's our basketball program. Then there is another one where everything is a little harder, they're in the others shadow, but keep working and in time through a lot of perseverance they come into their own. That's our football program. You're proud of both, you're expectations are a little different for each one but you love them both. For the one who has everything to try and put himself above a brother like that is narcissistic and really disappointing.
This is really well said. Bravo.
 
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Eventhough he was right Cal shouldn't have brought the football program into it, but Stoops should've never gone public with his disdain for what Cal said. I love Stoops, but rival schools wouldn't have been able to use Cal's comments against UKFB if he would have kept his feelings in house.
 
Cal put Stoops in that position, so that's on him. Secondly, what is Stoops supposed to do, say nothing(which is the same as acknowledging that Cal is correct) or fight for his program and team? The football coaches have to put up with that garbage when recruiting against other SEC schools and our GD basketball coach says it. Stoops has to come out strong that they aren't going to take that from anybody especially the overpaid, underperforming basketball coach.
 
Eventhough he was right Cal shouldn't have brought the football program into it, but Stoops should've never gone public with his disdain for what Cal said. I love Stoops, but rival schools wouldn't have been able to use Cal's comments against UKFB if he would have kept his feelings in house.
Wrong. If Stoops doesn't stand up for his FB program when Cal makes his condescending, unbelievably stupid comments about them, then please tell me who is going to?

Mitch sure isn't. Cal has obviously neutered Mitch and is now trying to put CMS and the FB program in what he considers "their place".

Cal has the same disdain for FB as he does Basketball Bennies who know he is a joke of a coach in so many ways.

This will not end well for UK, and Cal doesn't give a dam. He only cares about himself.

Narcissistic little b**ch.
 
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I'm well aware of our basketball tradition and as a UK fan I appreciate it as the many books and prints in my house would attest. But I also feel like college basketball is increasingly a niche sport. Officiating is horrible, cheating has no repercussions for all of our rivals except Louisville and one and done has really killed a lot of passion for my sense of them being "my team". Most of the country doesn't care except here, Kansas and NC. The Final Four is on TBS now. I get joy out of the big games but only time it's a serious high is from a Final Four or better. That could be because UK basketball has spoiled me in a way that fans of 98% of other schools that aren't named Alabama, Notre Dame, or Duke wouldn't understand.

That being said, nothing gives me total joy the way a big football win does. The wins last year against Florida (who was still full of steam after their moral victory against Bama and not the same team USC and Mizzou played) and the bowl win against Iowa made me giddy for days. We've gotten a couple of those wins each year for the last 5 seasons and basketball hasn't done that for me since 2012. Where the football team has come from to get to this point after years of neglect from the powers that be has been a true joy to watch.

We all know or are in families with multiple siblings where one shines a little brighter than the others, they have the looks, the smarts, the social ability, the athleticism, everything comes easier for them than everybody else. That's our basketball program. Then there is another one where everything is a little harder, they're in the others shadow, but keep working and in time through a lot of perseverance they come into their own. That's our football program. You're proud of both, your expectations are a little different for each one but you love them both. For the one who has everything to try and put himself above a brother like that is narcissistic and really disappointing.
Preach it brother!!
 
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I can't believe that Stoops is that worked over a comment that is obviously true. He wasn't disparaging football, just stating a fact. I'm a football first UK fan, but it's clear this is a basketball school as much as that sux
Really...we are now both and CCC needs to wrap his brains around that! The condition his bb program is in is not Stoop's fault. He built his house on sand and created the monster that's now eating him. Just shut the hell up and do your job. One is a program first coach and the other isn't.
 
It's almost like the football program's rise in success and building attraction to the fan base as a whole has challenged basketball's historical dominance at UK, and Calipari sensing that, has reacted defensively. Are we witnessing a changing of the guard?

I think you nailed it. I believe Stoops was a guy ready to spend his career here but Cal's comment could put doubt in his mind. If AU doesn't win 8 games expect them to call CMS.
 
They are both good programs, Mark was right to stick up for his fine work, Cal spoke out of turn, and he man up and apologize. I wouldn't blame there being hurt feelings for a while in the football offices.

....but if fans fall into the trap of arguing football vs basketball it will give the story more legs. There's no need to make this a BBN Civil War. Both programs are good!
 
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I'm well aware of our basketball tradition and as a UK fan I appreciate it as the many books and prints in my house would attest. But I also feel like college basketball is increasingly a niche sport. Officiating is horrible, cheating has no repercussions for all of our rivals except Louisville and one and done has really killed a lot of passion for my sense of them being "my team". Most of the country doesn't care except here, Kansas and NC. The Final Four is on TBS now. I get joy out of the big games but only time it's a serious high is from a Final Four or better. That could be because UK basketball has spoiled me in a way that fans of 98% of other schools that aren't named Alabama, Notre Dame, or Duke wouldn't understand.

That being said, nothing gives me total joy the way a big football win does. The wins last year against Florida (who was still full of steam after their moral victory against Bama and not the same team USC and Mizzou played) and the bowl win against Iowa made me giddy for days. We've gotten a couple of those wins each year for the last 5 seasons and basketball hasn't done that for me since 2012. Where the football team has come from to get to this point after years of neglect from the powers that be has been a true joy to watch.

We all know or are in families with multiple siblings where one shines a little brighter than the others, they have the looks, the smarts, the social ability, the athleticism, everything comes easier for them than everybody else. That's our basketball program. Then there is another one where everything is a little harder, they're in the others shadow, but keep working and in time through a lot of perseverance they come into their own. That's our football program. You're proud of both, your expectations are a little different for each one but you love them both. For the one who has everything to try and put himself above a brother like that is narcissistic and really disappointing.

-I agree for the most part...that said right now the bb program is like the sibling that peaked in high-school and is living in the past...even as they've put on a ton of weight and developed a substance abuse problem.
 
I think you nailed it. I believe Stoops was a guy ready to spend his career here but Cal's comment could put doubt in his mind. If AU doesn't win 8 games expect them to call CMS.
No question Calipari's trying to push Stoops out the door. How much will Stoops push back is the question.
 
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-I agree for the most part...that said right now the bb program is like the sibling that peaked in high-school and is living in the past...even as they've put on a ton of weight and developed a substance abuse problem.
Well yeah, except for that
 
No question Calipari's trying to push Stoops out the door. How much will Stoops push back is the question.

I guess Cal saw what he was going to havethis coming season and thinking he will get #2 so he is doing some talking. But this isn't the old SEC in BB any longer, AU, Arky and UT are all fielding good teams and it won't be a cakewalk. AU did the exhibitions too, don't know about the others. Our new BB coach get his key to practice arena in about 6 weeks.
 
This is pure John Calipari. He thinks he is still in New England. I doubt when he became UK's coach he could located SEC schools on a map of the United States.

He is John Calipari and that is what you get when you put him on your payroll. The man's ego is at times unbearable. He lost some games to schools that don't even play football so he should be reflecting on that and not be envious of our football team.
This pretty much covers it all. I don’t hate anyone, especially over a sport, but Cal’s egotistical aura makes me dislike him to the realm just below that. I hope Stoops catches him asleep and drags his nuts across his face.
 
Analogy: Cal is the older brother who graduated from med school and was the white knight of the family with his success. Stoops didn't go to college, but worked hard as a plumber until he saved enough to start his own business. The last 10 years Stoops' plumbing business has been making more than Cal's doctor's salary, but Cal still had higher status until Cal got a divorce two years ago, lost everything in the acrimonious divorce and went to dad(Mitch) for a loan and felt he had to claim he was a better son in order to try to get money from dad.
 
I love KY sports in general. I get excited when my university (UK) competes and has success in any sport.
There sure is a lot of divisiveness from some folks, where it’s …almost like comparing one’s @ick size.
Chill.
That's what happens when basketball historically keeps 75-80% of its revenue to stay atop the basketball world, whereas football only had been keeping about 50% of their revenue. If one child gets nicer christmas present every year, despite working just as hard if not harder than the other child, there's going to be resentment and revolt. UK may be a basketball school, but that has been due to strategic decisions on athletics department budget allocations for decades. If the football program had been funded equally to the basketball program, the Bear might not of left and we'd have two programs historically on par. There's no way the basketball team is where they have been if they had only been keeping 50% of their revenues since WW2 and we'd be a football school if the football team had been keeping 75%+ of its revenues since then.
 
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This image shows that in 1989 college basketball ranked 10% among favorite spectator sports in the US while college football ranked 6%, over time the numbers flipped. In 2014 college football has 10% popularity while college basketball declined to 3%.
 
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This image shows that in 1989 college basketball ranked 10% among favorite spectator sports in the US while college football ranked 6%, over time the numbers flipped. In 2014 college football has 10% popularity while college basketball declined to 3%.
It's hard to believe 60% more Americans prefer baseball to college football.
 
For those saying that Stoops should not have replied in public think about this. His players also heard, read the remarks, or someone told them about it. If Stoops does not show a fight in defense of his players or the program, he will look weak or uncaring in their eyes and potential recruits imo. What should have happened is that Barnhart should have got out ahead of this and took control but, we all know why he didn't.
 
For those saying that Stoops should not have replied in public think about this. His players also heard, read the remarks, or someone told them about it. If Stoops does not show a fight in defense of his players or the program, he will look weak or uncaring in their eyes and potential recruits imo. What should have happened is that Barnhart should have got out ahead of this and took control but, we all know why he didn't.
Very, very true. And the silence coming from Barnhart is deafening.
 
What’s funny about that Tennessee AD saying they are a everything school, is they haven’t won shit in forever and there basketball program is Jekyll and Hyde, and the football program constantly disappoints, but yes they are a everything school. For Kentucky both sports matter and Mitch needs to reiterate that
Womens basketball is the most successful team in their history.
 
Thx for graph, D, even though 8 years old. Soccer on steep + slope while still low. We'll see where that goes.
 
It's hard to believe 60% more Americans prefer baseball to college football.
I think that's mostly due to demographics. The high density populated areas in the northeast and west coast aren't oriented much towards college sports, thus they are heavily in to pro sports, NFL and MLB. College football is primarily a southern and midwestern thing, while college basketball is primarily popular in 4 states.
 
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