I like how ZaytovenCat completely ignores that there are only 2 coaches with more than 1 title still coaching NCAA.... Pitino and K... and they are getting very close to retirement
Still Think Cal Is A Great Coach?
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You can't be serious. Cal has helped us get distance between UNC and Kansas we actually were overtaken for altime wins before. If you think kids play for the school and not the coach this day and age , you are in denial. Do you remember the classes coming in before Cal? Nobody has had a run with recruiting classes like Cal. Yes we will always be kentucky. But let 3-5 years go by of mediocre seasons and recruiting and we can fall with the best of them. Do you realize when John wall and co. Were playing , next years recruits were in 4th-5th grade. Those kids don't know anything about Delk Masshburn Bowie. Goose Issel. Ect.
Did cousins and co stay committed to Memphis. Heck no they wanted to play for Cal and rightfully so. Get ready because the day Cal finally hangs it up we will lose some if not most the recruits coming in the following season unless we have a common coach bond or sure fire hire that can help keep them here I dread that day
This season is not even over yet. Let it play out. We have a 5'9 PG with a heart of a champion. ( that some on here criticized when we missed on Mudiay) Ulis will go down as an all time favorite Cat.
We are UK but to say we will hold the same success and immediate success Cal has had is just silly. Tubby never sniffed another final four. Most coaches would love to have one of our players a year and one of our final fours the past 6 Name a coach that can come here and can do that off the top of your head right now if Cal left
Or when he turned Jorts into a legitimate player after almost kicking him off the team. People forget how hard fans were on Knight for being soft early. We took down Ohio state and UNC two of the favorites
Same can happen this year because I don't see a team as good as those two were
Nobody in the BBN is pleased this year, but you have evidently lost your mind. After this post, nobody on this board should ever take you seriously. This is not a great Kentucky team, but I don't get people like you who can't cope with any setbacks. You are taking Calipari's coaching nadir to prove your bias. There isn't a person on earth who won't leave a poor impression if you judge them only at their worst. Does Calipari get any credit for what he has done well? Calipari is the best recruiter in the country. He takes Kentucky to the FF most years. You don't get to the FF multiple times, and you sure don't win the NC, without being a sharp coach. Or have you figured that out?
You just dropped my IQ down by a point. Thanks for that.
You should of said "if I was named susan and born with boobs , I'd still be me" which would of added more to the conversation than what you actually typed.
I have never known a successful man who wasn't confident in his methods, because his tried and true methods are the reason he succeeded. In Calipari's case, his methods are the reason all these 5 star players want to play for him. Panicking under pressure and becoming indecisive about your methods are characteristics of unsuccessful people who can't lead. But no 1 succeeds every time out. Not even our coach. This has not been a good season by Kentucky standards, but it isn't hard to understand why. We have a weak baseline. If we had a better baseline, we would be winning more games because we have really good guards. I see a lot of other explanations here, but many people are just missing the forest for the trees.
Thank you. Pretty straightforward, actually. Most of the players signed by Calipari have become much better players due to his coaching. But no coach on earth gets the best out of every single player. The odds are just catching up this year. There just isn't anyone farther down the bench who can fully provide what was expected out of Lee and Labissiere. But Calipari still managed to beat Duke, Arizona State, and Louisville.
Coming from one of the smart asses, don't quit your day job because as an analyst you have certain deficiencies. No one has been able to do with OAD's what Cal has done and his ability to do it year after year, with what some would say is a modicum of success, is why he is coaching UK, in the HOF and making millions while rank amateurs like us, whether we be smart asses or dumb asses, are not.
Coach Cal thanks enough of his players if they can make million he wants them to leave, I thank that great, people like Pitino, begs his players to come back to make him look better.. I thank Cal is the best in college BB , he will not have a 38 and 1 yr ever yr we have been spoiled, good grief look at the class coming in next yr..
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You guys are nuts. MJ made a good point today. If your kid was a one and done talent, which coach would you want him to play for? Cal of course.
Cant count him......... those titles came at the hands of academic cheating.
probably shouldn't even count Rick since the whole hooker gate thing taints his title pretty severely.
Due to our history that we are proud of we must understand it is a different world and a different game. Players no longer stay 4 years and although someone can sneak in and win with 3* and 4* players who develop and become seniors. for the most part the talent will always win.
Calipari is huge himself, 1.4 mil Twitter followers. He talks, it's news, a celebrity of sorts. Take Calipari and put him at Louisville, guess what? UL would be kicking our butts every year. They would be THE name on the state and within a year or two on ESPN etc more than us.
Josh Pastner took some heat for saying how Memphis had won more games in a 4 year span than anyone in history, then saying "that wasn't Memphis, that was Calipari.
The days of Jr out in the yard shooting and dreaming of playing for UK for 4 years are over. Young ones with no chance may, the good ones are looking for the coach first, then program.
NBA $$ are the ultimate dream.
" I want to play for Coach Cal" is what you see them say in videos etc.
Our recruiting under Tubby, then Clyde? Where were all the players wanting to play for that UK history? Enjoy Calipari why we have him, he is an all time great. He makes mistakes like anyone else.
As far as signing recruits Cal is bigger than the UK history draw. No one cares about outside the state.
Calipari is huge himself, 1.4 mil Twitter followers. He talks, it's news, a celebrity of sorts. Take Calipari and put him at Louisville, guess what? UL would be kicking our butts every year. They would be THE name on the state and within a year or two on ESPN etc more than us.
Josh Pastner took some heat for saying how Memphis had won more games in a 4 year span than anyone in history, then saying "that wasn't Memphis, that was Calipari.
The days of Jr out in the yard shooting and dreaming of playing for UK for 4 years are over. Young ones with no chance may, the good ones are looking for the coach first, then program.
NBA $$ are the ultimate dream.
" I want to play for Coach Cal" is what you see them say in videos etc.
Our recruiting under Tubby, then Clyde? Where were all the players wanting to play for that UK history? Enjoy Calipari why we have him, he is an all time great. He makes mistakes like anyone else.
As far as signing recruits Cal is bigger than the UK history draw. No one cares about outside the state.
I question your ability to see that how he wants this team to play is not working. The same system does not always work with every type of player. Also, from your post, I suggest that you not question anyone else intelligence.
By gawd, you're right! I can't believe I never saw it before! If Cal can't even understand Simple truths like that, we should probably revoke his driver's license and consider making him wear a helmet before he goes outside.
If he would just stop telling our guys to defend with their hands, stop telling guys to watch the ball, stop telling Marcus to slap guys on the bicep when they go up for layups, maybe he'd win a game once in a blue moon.
OP, Gee, thanks for letting Cal stick around because there's "no better option" out there. I'm sure he appreciates it. Please burn your UK Gear. I may even pay you to.
And?? This isn't a Cal comparison to other coaches problem. It's a Cal problem. I guarantee you that there's a few coaches out there that would have more than one title with the same rosters over the last 6 years that Cal has had. You are one of the most dense posters I've had to respond to so forgive me if I don't reply to you again. There are plenty of other posters begging for my attention and reply.
They are, and good ones too! If you don't believe them just ask them they'll tell you or will have already done so, in so many words, through their posts.
That is just speculation, which coaches? The best college coaches all play a definitive style and recruit for that style. If you've seen one Izzo coached MSU team, you've seen them all. The same can be said about Pitino, Williams, Krzyzewski and others though i guess a little less so for K.
Why don't those coaches recruit better players? Why don't they make as many final fours as Cal has during his tenure at UK? Why don't they modify their methods? The answer is within the question.
No, it's not Cal's coaching strategy or lack of shooters or lack of zone which is costing the team, it is indeed the little things like rebounding and various other mistakes during play that has been the difference between winning and losing.
Why don't those coaches recruit better players? Why don't they make as many final fours as Cal has during his tenure at UK? Why don't they modify their methods? The answer is within the question.
No, it's not Cal's coaching strategy or lack of shooters or lack of zone which is costing the team, it is indeed the little things like rebounding and various other mistakes during play that has been the difference between winning and losing.
We all knew you wouldn't miss a good ol' Cal bashing... And, you're still wrong. Barnes isn't getting anyone playing above their talent, look at his history. He's had numerous talented players in Texas that have done absolutely nothing, individually and as a unit. That game was about UK being in town and playing above their heads - nothing new. We simply have a team this year that lacks focus down the stretch.
Although I agree with #2, those are ALL opinions... I see nothing "obvious" about any of those.
We get it!!! You, Zaytovencat & CUT-NETS don't like how Cal runs the program. You don't like the player's first mentality, you don't like 1 and done players, you don't like only man to man defense, you don't like all of the players leaving the program for the NBA early, you don't like starting over with 5 star recruits every year... WE GET IT!!! So stop with the incessant whining. Come back when Cal retires. All three of you. DAMN!!
someone give zaytovencat a Nobel prize. He figured out a looking glass device to parallel worlds.
My cat just passed away while I was writing this post and reminded me basketball is just a game. Hopefully it doesn't take losing something or someone you love to realize that too.
My cat just passed away while I was writing this post and reminded me basketball is just a game. Hopefully it doesn't take losing something or someone you love to realize that too.
These cannot be Ky fans that put these dumb posts on here like this one, Why does every NBA team always wanting Cal, it because he is the best coach around, we are lucky to still have him he has turn down one NBA team after another..
Actually had that realization yesterday myself. Sorry about your cat
He's dense? You're by far the dumbest poster on this board. No one is more dense than you. Sure, @CUT-NETS comes close, but that's because all of the sex he gets from Bruce Pearl. Blood and oxygen has stayed away from his brain for years.
You guarantee? Look, man. Although you are blind to it, Calipari has been the most successful basketball coach in Kentucky history by most measures. Then you call another poster dense? LOL! Nobody is begging for your attention. Actually they think you are a fool. Take a hike.
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