Some leave early because they play up to and over their potential and others too early and it blows up in their face - Dakari on this roster dramatically changes the dynamics.
Still Think Cal Is A Great Coach?
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Some leave early because they play up to and over their potential and others too early and it blows up in their face - Dakari on this roster dramatically changes the dynamics.
Cal does everything in his power to market these guys. He is very much a part of the Big Hype machine.
I get that, but we're a victim of our own success. Booker or Lyles struggle and maybe one comes back - Dakari's family not in dire straits and he comes back.
Expect another last year next year.
I believe that Cal knows that some of his players are not ready for the next level but he has to get these players in and out to keep the pipeline flowing. Players don't come to UK because we are UK; they come to UK because they believe this is their quickest path to the NBA. If Cal told the scouts that some of his players weren't ready for the next level, they would hold off on them for however many seasons were necessary for them to develop into reasonable NBA prospects.
The question is, how miserable do you have to be to complain about the kind of results we've had with him?
I learned long ago, some people simply aren't happy unless they have something to bitch about.
Some people win the lottery and complain they have to pay taxes. Some people can date a supermodel and somehow focus on the mole on her ear.
Not necessarily - i.e. Lee and Poythress are still here and he's had several other very high 5 stars come back for a 2nd season as well.
I think we'll see some freshmen come back next year and I expect Lee to transfer out.
This thread is the first time people have actually acknowledged some of Cal's deficiencies as a coach. Yet we still have the same posters coming on and defending his every move. Cal is stubborn. It has cost him, and in my opinion it will continue to cost him. I've said that for a long time now and posters are finally seeing what I have been talking about. Cal's national titles will end with just the one. Anthony Davis isn't walking through that door. One and Done for Cal with titles at UK.
If what you say is correct, that highlights another one of his faults. He is unwilling to give one of his less than favorite players or defenses a chance to work. If one things goes wrong with it, he is quick to go back to something that was/is failing. One possession of 2-3 zone just because they scored is a joke. He has to at least give his players an opportunity to settle into the defense before he knows if it is going to work.
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What I don't get is that Willis made a big 3 with 13:09 left in second half and didn't get a touch after that. I know he wasn't filling it up, but once everyone else went cold why the hell didn't Cal do something to give our best 3-pt/FT shooter a look? It couldn't hurt at that point.
Two things.
1. Some of you take this ish too seriously and need to ease up. When I was young I let this stuff ruin my day, week or even month. I was redass for about an hour. On to the next. Now, I realize teenagers throwing a ball through a hoop isn't worth kicking the dog over. This bunch is a mystery who could go to the Final Four or NIT. I don't think we have what it takes this season, but I'm not gonna lash out like a toddler over it.
2. Meltodwn nights are awful because all the coaches with 0-0 records have all the answers and the garbage posters show up and start felating each other's posts with the like button as if they're happy the team lost so they can rag on the best coach we've had since Rupp.
1. Some of you take this ish too seriously and need to ease up. When I was young I let this stuff ruin my day, week or even month. I was redass for about an hour. On to the next. Now, I realize teenagers throwing a ball through a hoop isn't worth kicking the dog over. This bunch is a mystery who could go to the Final Four or NIT. I don't think we have what it takes this season, but I'm not gonna lash out like a toddler over it.
2. Meltodwn nights are awful because all the coaches with 0-0 records have all the answers and the garbage posters show up and start felating each other's posts with the like button as if they're happy the team lost so they can rag on the best coach we've had since Rupp.
Who could do better with all that entails coaching at UK? No none Bill Self hasn't seen pressure like this place. Donovan knew better and turned it down. Coack K isn't moving.
Not really.
The complaints regarding zone and timeouts come out often. I personally blamed the lack of timeouts for 2010 and 15 final losses.
Cal isn't perfect, he appears stubborn in some ways (slow down ball with leads, mixing up defenses).
This thread simply has the normal Cal detractors so excited they can hardly stand it.
Lmd, Zay, Stonewall and Zippy will be wearing smiles all week.
But keep in mind girls, it's one thing to criticize coach when warranted, you jokers make it an everyday occurrence.
Love Cal as our coach. But, like others have said, I think he gets stubborn in his ways. It happened last year in the Final Four and a few times this year by not adapting during the game.
The results we've had with Cal have been fantastic. No complaints from me there.
They could have even been better if he was a better game coach, though. We lose a fair number of games we shouldn't due to lack of an offensive scheme and poor team defense. Last year's team had a lot of close games through the second half of the season that shouldn't have been close at all. Our talent just won out in the end.
They could have even been better if he was a better game coach, though. We lose a fair number of games we shouldn't due to lack of an offensive scheme and poor team defense. Last year's team had a lot of close games through the second half of the season that shouldn't have been close at all. Our talent just won out in the end.
Looking at his dominant 6 years here and his time at Memphis and UMass where he made irrelevant teams relevant only to see them fall back to irrelevancy after he left... YES
You can't wait for a bad game to come running making these comments. One game does not a career make.
You can't wait for a bad game to come running making these comments. One game does not a career make.
He's a great coach, anyone who thinks otherwise is a complete idiot.
2014 is a perfect example. He beats Gregg Marshall, Pitino, Belein and Bo Ryan consecutively as a lower seed, all of whom at one time or another have had people slobbering all over them as great x and o's guys, to virtually no fanfare at all in terms of his coaching ability. He then loses to Ollie in the title game, and suddenly it's "Cal outcoached again", never mind Ollie had just beaten Billy Donovan, another media and message board darling as "great bench coach" (and another Cal had a winning record against).
Many of our fans are no more fair than opposing fans. When Cal wins it's talent, when he loses it's bad coaching. It's so tired and disappointing at this point, just shut the **** up. Cal will leave one day and we will not approach this level for a long time. It's not perfect but no program is, even precious K has two very embarrassing first round losses in recent memory, and Bill Self would probably be fired by now if Derrick Rose could make free throws.
2014 is a perfect example. He beats Gregg Marshall, Pitino, Belein and Bo Ryan consecutively as a lower seed, all of whom at one time or another have had people slobbering all over them as great x and o's guys, to virtually no fanfare at all in terms of his coaching ability. He then loses to Ollie in the title game, and suddenly it's "Cal outcoached again", never mind Ollie had just beaten Billy Donovan, another media and message board darling as "great bench coach" (and another Cal had a winning record against).
Many of our fans are no more fair than opposing fans. When Cal wins it's talent, when he loses it's bad coaching. It's so tired and disappointing at this point, just shut the **** up. Cal will leave one day and we will not approach this level for a long time. It's not perfect but no program is, even precious K has two very embarrassing first round losses in recent memory, and Bill Self would probably be fired by now if Derrick Rose could make free throws.
It is completely illogical to bust on Cal at this point.
If we end up with an NIT team again, then I will be first in line to throw him under the bus.
Until then, let it play out. We have seen this position before and end up very happy with the results.
Just stupid right now....
If we end up with an NIT team again, then I will be first in line to throw him under the bus.
Until then, let it play out. We have seen this position before and end up very happy with the results.
Just stupid right now....
Coaches get too much of the blame when the team loses, and not enough credit when they win. When UK has a big win over a quality team, or blows someone out, or just wins a game in general....NOBODY comes on this forum and talks about what a great coaching job Cal did. We talk about this player having a great game, or that player. But heaven forbid we lose a game we shouldn't have, then everyone plays armchair QB and says Cal can't coach. Gimme a freakin' break.
Is it Cal's fault the Vols bench outscored our bench by 22 points? Is it Cal's fault we got out rebounded? Is it Cal's fault we only made 1 FG the final 5:46 of the 1st half? Is it Cal's fault we missed MANY wide open shots down the stretch?
Is it Cal's fault the Vols bench outscored our bench by 22 points? Is it Cal's fault we got out rebounded? Is it Cal's fault we only made 1 FG the final 5:46 of the 1st half? Is it Cal's fault we missed MANY wide open shots down the stretch?
Since we're talking about things that aren't good, Zaytoven is at the top of our list of bad posters. Our team is just unbalanced, from front court to back court and from talent to experience. We have no safety net. That is on Cal. It isn't because Cal is a bad coach, it's just his strategy to recruit this way. It has it's obvious upside but the downside sucks. We won't have any "good" talent returning next year. We'll have Willis, a good role player and Hawk, a decent role player. We'll also have a group learning to play at this level, Matthews, Mulder, Humphries and Wynyard. We will be very unbalanced again next year, depending on freshmen the most since the 13 season. I hope they are as good as the Wall group or we're in for a bumpy ride.
I'm not trying to help Zaytoven here, but yes, our bench production is primarily on Cal because we don't have a bench. Right now, we primarily have practice players on the bench. Cal put the team together, so that issue is on him. I simply wish we would recruit more true basketball players and fewer true athletes.
He can't make Lee get a rebound that he stands and watches bounce in front of him in the last seconds of a game. He can't make the easy lay-in for Poy. He couldn't take the ball out of the Harrison twins hands and pass it to Carlito as the game was slipping away.
These are kids. I can't get my 20 year old to take out the garbage consistently. Though I am sure he respects me and my judgement, he still believes his way to tie his shoes is the best ever invented. Even though his shoes flop untied off his feet.
Cal has the same problem.
Missing in a lot of recruits hurt. Be fair though, our frontline are primary role players at best. It is terrible
Anyone think this frontline has an NBA player on it? I will get as many minutes.
I am 55 yrs old too
Yes I still think he is a great coach. No way anyone can convince me otherwise. Go Cats!!
that's right, if you take the pats on the back you have to take the criticism too. He accepts that, the Cal apologists on here do not.
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