State of 2023 Recruiting
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No knock on Conyer but that would more than replace the Conyer miss
That's very true. However, in this instance it's a case, rightly or wrongly, that perception is reality. Since some consider Conyer is the #1 in-state prospect(Rock doesn't think so and he has more cred with me than the so called "experts"), not signing him is some kind of huge loss. UK is in on guys who are better than Conyer, we'll have to see if they can convince them to sign.
247 has Conyer #7 in the state. He is #4 in the composite. ON3 has him at #9 in the state
Well ya see here's the thing. I am not debating anything. I am stating facts of which I know answering a question that was posed. So there's that. This thread was derailed a long time ago and I suspect it will get derailed further on down the road. So try this. Don't get so emotionally involved in a football forum to the point that you become an ass. It took me lot of years to get there but damn. I'm happy I got there. 😀
Silly me. I quoted and posted before a bunch of off topic NIL thoughts. Damn you message board peeps 🤣🤣🤣
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Some believe Jeremiah Collins may be a better SEC CB prospect than Conyer. Collins is ranked higher than Conyer by some sources. Of course, they are not mutually exclusive. But UK's coaches are also recruiting Avery Stuart and several other DB prospects more highly regarded than Conyer. Until we find out what all of these players decide to do, it is hard to assess whether UK's class has been hurt by Conyer's decision. If certainly hasn't helped. But Coach Stoops has been very resilient when it comes to recruiting.
UK's current 2023 recruiting class-
Ty Bryant, DB, Lexington, KY
Khalifa Keith, RB, Birmingham, AL
Tanner Lemaster, TE, Washington CH, OH
Kaden Moorman, RB, Frankfort, KY
Shamar Porter, WR, Nashville, TN
Austin Ramsey, OL, Philadelphia, PA
Malachi Wood, OL, Richmond, KY
Tommy Ziesmer, LB, Danville, KY
UK has a new commitment from Khalifa Keith, who is quite the interesting prospect. Keith recently attended a camp in Lexington and reportedly impressed Coach Settle as a RB. But Keith, at 6'2" 215#, can also be viewed as a possible LB prospect. Coach Stoops already has a commitment from RB Kaden Moorman. But I suspect Keith may also end up as a RB. At the end of this season, UK loses Chris Rodriguez, Kavosiey Smoke, and Ramon Jefferson. Viewed in that light, UK probably needs two RBs in this class.
Prior to attending the recent UK camp, Keith has been an overlooked prospect. Playing against central AL competition, his highlight film looks fantastic. But aside from UK, his best offers have come from ACC schools FL St and GA Tech. Those are not insignificant offers, but we could wonder why no SEC teams have nibbled on a Birmingham prospect. Until now, his player rankings have not stood out. He currently ranks in the lower half of the top 100 RBs in the country, and is not ranked at all inside the state of AL. So we can look at him as a late riser, a hidden gem, a great job of player evaluation, or an overreach. Only time and performance will clarify that, but Benny Snell and Chris Rodriguez were not highly ranked prospects either.
Let's remember that Coach Settle has developed several NFL RBs. If he sees something in Keith, I respect that.
Several excellent defensive players on UK's recruiting board, as well as C prospect Koby Keenum, are scheduled to make their announcements in the next couple of weeks. These developments may or may not shape UK's class, but they will tell us a lot about UK's recruiting progress in GA, FL, and AL.
Happy 4th of July everyone.
Ty Bryant, DB, Lexington, KY
Khalifa Keith, RB, Birmingham, AL
Tanner Lemaster, TE, Washington CH, OH
Kaden Moorman, RB, Frankfort, KY
Shamar Porter, WR, Nashville, TN
Austin Ramsey, OL, Philadelphia, PA
Malachi Wood, OL, Richmond, KY
Tommy Ziesmer, LB, Danville, KY
UK has a new commitment from Khalifa Keith, who is quite the interesting prospect. Keith recently attended a camp in Lexington and reportedly impressed Coach Settle as a RB. But Keith, at 6'2" 215#, can also be viewed as a possible LB prospect. Coach Stoops already has a commitment from RB Kaden Moorman. But I suspect Keith may also end up as a RB. At the end of this season, UK loses Chris Rodriguez, Kavosiey Smoke, and Ramon Jefferson. Viewed in that light, UK probably needs two RBs in this class.
Prior to attending the recent UK camp, Keith has been an overlooked prospect. Playing against central AL competition, his highlight film looks fantastic. But aside from UK, his best offers have come from ACC schools FL St and GA Tech. Those are not insignificant offers, but we could wonder why no SEC teams have nibbled on a Birmingham prospect. Until now, his player rankings have not stood out. He currently ranks in the lower half of the top 100 RBs in the country, and is not ranked at all inside the state of AL. So we can look at him as a late riser, a hidden gem, a great job of player evaluation, or an overreach. Only time and performance will clarify that, but Benny Snell and Chris Rodriguez were not highly ranked prospects either.
Let's remember that Coach Settle has developed several NFL RBs. If he sees something in Keith, I respect that.
Several excellent defensive players on UK's recruiting board, as well as C prospect Koby Keenum, are scheduled to make their announcements in the next couple of weeks. These developments may or may not shape UK's class, but they will tell us a lot about UK's recruiting progress in GA, FL, and AL.
Happy 4th of July everyone.
Anthony Brown is mentioned in the tweet from Rowland a couple of posts, above.
I think is Kendrick Gilbert from Indy.
Gilbert, Keenum, Stuart, and Brown could all commit in the next couple weeks and we’d all feel a lot better about this class
Yes, Gilbert hasn't set a date, but it could be him. The article said 3 big commitments in four days
UK's current 2023 recruiting class-
Ty Bryant, DB, Lexington, KY
Khalifa Keith, RB, Birmingham, AL
Tanner Lemaster, TE, Washington CH, OH
Kaden Moorman, RB, Frankfort, KY
Shamar Porter, WR, Nashville, TN
Austin Ramsey, OL, Philadelphia, PA
Avery Stuart, DB, Montgomery, AL
Malachi Wood, OL, Richmond, KY
Tommy Ziesmer, LB, Danville, KY
Today, as widely expected, UK has received a commitment from DB Avery Stuart, one of the top 200 hs football prospects in the country. Stuart has the size of a S and the skills of a CB. He is being recruited by UK assistant coach Frank Buffano. Stuart has reportedly received at least five SEC offers, including AR and Auburn, as well as other offers from OK, Miami, FL St, NE, PA St, and MI St.
Reportedly, Stuart is being recruited as a CB. Stuart's commitment should come as welcome news for UK fans concerned about Cristian Conyer's recent commitment to TN. Stuart is bigger, better, more heavily recruited, and more ready to play SEC football than Conyer.
UK is still known to be recruiting uncommitted DB prospects Jeremiah Collins from Louisville, Ja'Keem Jackson from FL, and Jeramiah Anglin from FL. Coach Stoops already has a commitment from Ty Bryant, a DB from Lexington.
With Stuart's commitment, Coach Stoops has tentatively filled nine scholarships in the class. With 15 scholarship seniors scheduled to use up their eligibility this season, it is not clear yet how many new freshmen Stoops will sign in the class. I would guess the number will be between 20-25, taking into account that some undergraduate players leave every year.
Ty Bryant, DB, Lexington, KY
Khalifa Keith, RB, Birmingham, AL
Tanner Lemaster, TE, Washington CH, OH
Kaden Moorman, RB, Frankfort, KY
Shamar Porter, WR, Nashville, TN
Austin Ramsey, OL, Philadelphia, PA
Avery Stuart, DB, Montgomery, AL
Malachi Wood, OL, Richmond, KY
Tommy Ziesmer, LB, Danville, KY
Today, as widely expected, UK has received a commitment from DB Avery Stuart, one of the top 200 hs football prospects in the country. Stuart has the size of a S and the skills of a CB. He is being recruited by UK assistant coach Frank Buffano. Stuart has reportedly received at least five SEC offers, including AR and Auburn, as well as other offers from OK, Miami, FL St, NE, PA St, and MI St.
Reportedly, Stuart is being recruited as a CB. Stuart's commitment should come as welcome news for UK fans concerned about Cristian Conyer's recent commitment to TN. Stuart is bigger, better, more heavily recruited, and more ready to play SEC football than Conyer.
UK is still known to be recruiting uncommitted DB prospects Jeremiah Collins from Louisville, Ja'Keem Jackson from FL, and Jeramiah Anglin from FL. Coach Stoops already has a commitment from Ty Bryant, a DB from Lexington.
With Stuart's commitment, Coach Stoops has tentatively filled nine scholarships in the class. With 15 scholarship seniors scheduled to use up their eligibility this season, it is not clear yet how many new freshmen Stoops will sign in the class. I would guess the number will be between 20-25, taking into account that some undergraduate players leave every year.
I already feel good about this class. I have for some time, because of the numbers and quality of prospects that have been visiting.
Feel like a lot of guys, including me, jumped the gun on worrying about this class, if we get these 4 guys, flip Collins from Louisville, get Grant Godfrey, Neeo Avery, William Spencer, plus more late developments, that’s a pretty good class with like 7-9ish 4 star players
That would be the foundation of another good class. But it's way too early to judge this class, or to tie its success to a handful of specific names. They won't sign for another 5 months. There will be new names in the fall. Players don't all develop at the same time. Some blossom as hs seniors. Some players decommit. Some slow-walk their recruitments. There are still a lot of uncommitted players.
Some people got very upset because Cristian Conyer, supposedly the "#1 player in KY", picked TN. Some even used it as another excuse to bash Mitch Barnhart. But Avery Stuart is a bigger, better, and more heavily recruited player than Conyer. Had William Spencer not transferred to an IN school, Conyer would not even be #1. The fact that he lives in KY is not related to what he, or Stuart, can contribute as a player. Meanwhile, Vince Marrow has clarified in no uncertain terms that Barnhart is an asset, not a liability. What a lame, shortsighted narrative that the AD who hired Stoops, rebuilt Kroger Field, built new practice and office facilities, got big raises for the staff, and elevated the entire athletics department is a liability. Good for Marrow for slam dunking that false reasoning.
You are wise to realize that you jumped the gun. The only date that counts is the signing deadline. Prior to that, anything can happen. This coaching staff has earned our trust. And although Jon Sumrall is missed, Mike Stoops hasn't even begun to make his mark. This will be another good class, but no coach gets every player he wants.
The biggest difference between a top 15 class and a top 30 class is having one or two headliners that bump up our ranking by accumulating a bunch of bonus points for being ranked highly. (Goodwin last year, Landon Young had the same effect, etc.) This year’s class doesn’t look to have that one guy, but it doesn’t really mean it’s significantly worse than any other class. Just means we don’t have a top 50 guy to rack up like 200 bonus points in our recruiting score.
Very true. I would rather have Stuart than Conyer, but I would rather have both. But I have not seen any team sign every player they offered a scholarship. So lamenting a recruiting miss while failing to recognize importance of a commitment is also irrelevant. We have the players we have. Are they winning? Yes. Are we getting closer to challenging in the east? Athlon and others think so. I have learned not to doubt Stoops.
Ohio State. They don't actually offer until you accept so they can they didn't offer X player. It's funny when their fans argue that.
That isn't true. OSU misses on alot of top players. They get almost any in state player they want. Most of the players we have from Ohio they didn't offer or were not a priority. ND beat them for Vernon this year. Idk truly when we have beaten them for a recruit they prioritized
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Everyone wanted Kiyaunta Goodwin. At one time, he was receiving crystal ball predictions for Ohio State. Once it became apparent that Goodwin wasn't going to Ohio State, they turned their attention to other players. But he had an offer from Ohio State, and they prioritized him while he was talking with them.
Rivals and other outlets reported that Ohio State offered and prioritized Drake Jackson, Justin Rogers, and Jager Burton for a time until they tilted toward us.
I thought I said Ohio kids, well the rest of the post was about Ohio kids. Drake wanted to go to OSU, but wasn't offered till last minute and almost flipped. I got that info from the coach that he went to torn about his decision Again none of these are Ohio kids. Also the other poster said they don't offer kids so the don't miss on any. They offered everyone you mentioned
They argue that it wasn't an "official" offer. If you want to be super technical and are incapable of seeing humor then just ignore my post... It was meant to be funny.
"It wasn't committable" they like to say.
It's hard to pull a kid out of Ohio that they offer early enough. The Buckeyes are the pro team in that state, NFL teams be damned.
They grow up wanting to be a Buckeye. I don't know of another team/state that has this dynamic to this degree.
You can get these kids in some instances. 2 recent examples for Penn State.
Kaden Saunders. WR who blew up on the camp circuit post Covid. Buckeyes offered, but saw him as a CB.
Drew Allar. QB who the Buckeyes wouldn't have offered if not for the Quinn Ewers reclassification. Another kid who went from 3* to top 5 QB late. They made a late push to no avail, but still got another highly ranked QB.
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