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State of 2022 Recruiting

OT the most glaring need them CB!
By far, CB is the most glaring need we have for the portal at this point. We need two, and one of them will have to start from the beginning.

We need another WR from the portal, and he will have to start.

We have lots of OTs. Most of them have little or no playing experience, but all of them had nice offer sheets when they were signed and have the talent to play at UK. But I think Stoops will take an OT out of the portal if he can get one he wants.
 
Kentucky has 19 high school guys and 3 transfers for a total of 22 in the 2022 class. Theoretically, they can take 10 more transfers (up to 32) as long as they stay at 85 total scholarships when August arrives. Obviously, I don't see that happening, but could see them ultimately taking another 5-7 guys from the portal.
I wish we knew how many they could take.

Assuming they had 85 last year. And info from another thread.

85 total last year
- 6 to NFL
- 6 Super Seniors done
-14 in Transfer Portal out

59 bal
+ 6 Returning for Super Senior year
+ 19 signees
+ 3 Transfers in (not including walk on QB)
+1 Scholarship given to Goodfellow

88 players total

So I see UK as 3 over right now. Don’t see how they can add 5-7 more.
 
I wish we knew how many they could take.

Assuming they had 85 last year. And info from another thread.

85 total last year
- 6 to NFL
- 6 Super Seniors done
-14 in Transfer Portal out

59 bal
+ 6 Returning for Super Senior year
+ 19 signees
+ 3 Transfers in (not including walk on QB)
+1 Scholarship given to Goodfellow

88 players total

So I see UK as 3 over right now. Don’t see how they can add 5-7 more.
For one you wouldn't add the super seniors as they were already in the number you had. Didn't goodfellow have a scholarship last year? If he did it would have been in the 85 also so wouldn't need added. By those numbers they would have 4 spots open
 
I wish we knew how many they could take.

Assuming they had 85 last year. And info from another thread.

85 total last year
- 6 to NFL
- 6 Super Seniors done
-14 in Transfer Portal out

59 bal
+ 6 Returning for Super Senior year
+ 19 signees
+ 3 Transfers in (not including walk on QB)
+1 Scholarship given to Goodfellow

88 players total

So I see UK as 3 over right now. Don’t see how they can add 5-7 more.
I haven't done the numbers myself, but someone on the HOB did the other day and I believe had them at like 82 or 83, something like that. And there will be more attrition between now and August. Always is.
 
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just hope some movement starts soon
This is not the time to expect transfers. Players have been transferring to get into school for the spring semester. It isn't too late to enroll for the spring, but it is almost too late. We might see one more for the spring semester, but I wouldn't count on it. The next window for transfers will be at the end of the spring semester.
 
I wish we knew how many they could take.

Assuming they had 85 last year. And info from another thread.

85 total last year
- 6 to NFL
- 6 Super Seniors done
-14 in Transfer Portal out

59 bal
+ 6 Returning for Super Senior year
+ 19 signees
+ 3 Transfers in (not including walk on QB)
+1 Scholarship given to Goodfellow

88 players total

So I see UK as 3 over right now. Don’t see how they can add 5-7 more.
58 players from the current roster are due back in 2022. It is inevitable that a couple will leave after spring practice, because a couple always do.

Stoops has signed 19 hs players.

Stoops has accepted 2 transfers from the portal.

So, as of now, that means 79 players are due on UK's 2022 roster. There is still room for at least 6 more, and that doesn't even count the one-time allowance to replace superseniors Davonta Robinson, Quandre Mosely, Zach Johnson, Josh Ali, Justin Rigg, and Luke Fortner. As mentioned above, there will be more outgoing transfers after spring practice, so the magic number of available scholarships will increase again after the spring semester.

But we haven't heard yet whether Clevan Thomas plans to return as a supersenior. Clevan was on UK's sideline at the Citrus Bowl.
 
Puts us in a tough position we may have missed a good opportunity to land a few big time transfers.
 
58 players from the current roster are due back in 2022. It is inevitable that a couple will leave after spring practice, because a couple always do.

Stoops has signed 19 hs players.

Stoops has accepted 2 transfers from the portal.

So, as of now, that means 79 players are due on UK's 2022 roster. There is still room for at least 6 more, and that doesn't even count the one-time allowance to replace superseniors Davonta Robinson, Quandre Mosely, Zach Johnson, Josh Ali, Justin Rigg, and Luke Fortner. As mentioned above, there will be more outgoing transfers after spring practice, so the magic number of available scholarships will increase again after the spring semester.

But we haven't heard yet whether Clevan Thomas plans to return as a supersenior. Clevan was on UK's sideline at the Citrus Bowl.

I kept hoping Clevan would make a play or 2. If just never happened for him
 
Puts us in a tough position we may have missed a good opportunity to land a few big time transfers.
What puts us in a tough position? They missed on the guys that have transferred. They have open spots. The guys that have transferred just were not interested in coming here. It's crazy but Arkansas has killed it in the portal
 
What puts us in a tough position? They missed on the guys that have transferred. They have open spots. The guys that have transferred just were not interested in coming here. It's crazy but Arkansas has killed it in the portal
I wouldn't say that. Quite frankly, Kentucky just have really went in on hardly any transfer guys. They've gotten pretty much all the ones they have expect for Khris Bogle. Maybe I'm forgetting one or two, but they have chosen to be very selective in who they truly target.
 
I wouldn't say that. Quite frankly, Kentucky just have really went in on hardly any transfer guys. They've gotten pretty much all the ones they have expect for Khris Bogle. Maybe I'm forgetting one or two, but they have chosen to be very selective in who they truly target.
Idk if the players had any interest. We have seen alot of good players transfer and UK wasn't mentioned. Maybe the coaches haven't pursued them like Robinson or Harris. Or was the reason they didn't because when they gauged interest it wasn't there. Either way the statement the op made was something had put uk in a tough position and caused them to miss out on these recruits. My question was what?
 
Idk if the players had any interest. We have seen alot of good players transfer and UK wasn't mentioned. Maybe the coaches haven't pursued them like Robinson or Harris. Or was the reason they didn't because when they gauged interest it wasn't there. Either way the statement the op made was something had put uk in a tough position and caused them to miss out on these recruits. My question was what?
Yeah, it ultimately just comes down to what the staff is looking for. If they are only taking one more WR for example, they want to make sure they get the guy that gives them the most confidence in contributing in the fall. I'd rather they get it right vs just taking someone and hoping it works out.
 
I agree it comes to what they are looking for, combined with mutual interest. There is no reason to waste their time on someone going elsewhere or bring in someone that isn't gonna help. They will get it right
 
For one you wouldn't add the super seniors as they were already in the number you had. Didn't goodfellow have a scholarship last year? If he did it would have been in the 85 also so wouldn't need added. By those numbers they would have 4 spots open
Super seniors didn’t count last year but do this year. No Goodfellow was not on scholarship. It’s why he was in the portal. Came back when UKs told him he would get one.
 
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Yeah, it ultimately just comes down to what the staff is looking for. If they are only taking one more WR for example, they want to make sure they get the guy that gives them the most confidence in contributing in the fall. I'd rather they get it right vs just taking someone and hoping it works out.
Rock…Do you see them going after a starting Tackle? If so…any interest in Steen from Vandy? He has starts at both LT and RT.
 
Rock…Do you see them going after a starting Tackle? If so…any interest in Steen from Vandy? He has starts at both LT and RT.
They have to get a Tackle, no question. The loss of Rosenthal made it a must. Steen, there may be some interest. I'm sure they have looked at him as they have a lot of portal guys. Just remains to be seen if they ultimately get serious about him or not. I'm sure he will have a lot of options due to his experience.
 
Probably going to need 2 CB, particularly with Frazier bailing on UK. Also, I'd say an OT, WR and then another 1-3 that perhaps are best available.
Say what you want, but the fact that they won’t have any of those positions you named addressed via the portal in time for Spring Practice pretty much sucks.
 
It isn't great to not have the transfers we need at spring. Remember we didn't have our answer at the most important position on the field last spring either, he didn't arrive until June. We did OK for the season.

I think a couple corners getting here in the summer can be coached up enough for 2022.
 
It isn't great to not have the transfers we need at spring. Remember we didn't have our answer at the most important position on the field last spring either, he didn't arrive until June. We did OK for the season.

I think a couple corners getting here in the summer can be coached up enough for 2022.
And he also didn't play really well until late because he missed tons of valuable reps
 
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Just another reminder that this is the 2022 recruiting class thread. We are trying to keep discussions on this thread focused on UK's 2022 recruiting class. We have another signing date coming up early next month.

The NCAA transfer portal is another interesting topic. We have a separate thread for discussions of UK interest in the transfer portal. There is also a dedicated thread for discussion of our 2023 football recruiting class. If we can keep those discussions on their own threads, it helps to keep all the discussions more focused and organized.

Jalen Farmer (OL, Covington, GA) did not publicly re-commit to UF during his visit to Gainesville last week. He will visit Auburn next weekend, but is still a hypothetical possibility for several other SEC schools including UK.

Manual hs ATH Jawaun Northington from Louisville also remains uncommitted.

I don't see any direct evidence that either player is headed to UK. But surprises on the February signing date often happen.
 
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Did UK miss out on Farmer when he didn’t commit after his visit? Really like this kids tape and he appears to have the size/mobility to cross train at different positions on the OLine. Any new news out there on him?
 
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Did UK miss out on Farmer when he didn’t commit after his visit? Really like this kids tape and he appears to have the size/mobility to cross train at different positions on the OLine. Any new news out there on him?
Certainly made it much less likely. Was at Florida last weekend, Auburn this weekend and supposed to be at Mississippi State after that.
 
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Dead solid on the money regarding a WR with Javon Baker
Last year, the portal gave us three players who looked right out of the gate to be starters at positions of need. Jones, Rosenthal and Robinson all projected as immediate starters. While I suspect Baker has an edge to the field, it appears only TRob is the only portal get that I would today pencil in as a starter. I don’t know if this is a reflection on our returning depth or a reflection on how the portal has gifted this year.
 
Last year, the portal gave us three players who looked right out of the gate to be starters at positions of need. Jones, Rosenthal and Robinson all projected as immediate starters. While I suspect Baker has an edge to the field, it appears only TRob is the only portal get that I would today pencil in as a starter. I don’t know if this is a reflection on our returning depth or a reflection on how the portal has gifted this year.
Sure it will be earned on the field but....

- The 3rd WR last year was not great at all last year, especially saw the problem when Ali missed a few games during the year and then in the bowl game. We basically threw all those balls to TE and doubled down on more Wandale.

- DeMarcus Harris didn't do a bad job but Magwood struggled a good bit IMO to make plays. Those 2 are the top guys for 2nd WR spot. Tae Tae Crumes has been a name thrown around for a few years but when Ali went down...he never even gets on the field.

- I think Javon Baker will be the new Ali as Tayvion Robinson will be the new Wandale come 2022 IMO.
 
Sure it will be earned on the field but....

- The 3rd WR last year was not great at all last year, especially saw the problem when Ali missed a few games during the year and then in the bowl game. We basically threw all those balls to TE and doubled down on more Wandale.

- DeMarcus Harris didn't do a bad job but Magwood struggled a good bit IMO to make plays. Those 2 are the top guys for 2nd WR spot. Tae Tae Crumes has been a name thrown around for a few years but when Ali went down...he never even gets on the field.

- I think Javon Baker will be the new Ali as Tayvion Robinson will be the new Wandale come 2022 IMO.

Let's try to be accurate at least.

Our 2nd, 3rd, and 4th options on passing plays did get open in most of our games. The problem we had was with reading WHICH option better defenses were giving us and hitting those options in stride once found. A lot of that can be attributed to time in the system for both QB and WR, as well as familiarity between each QB and each WR individually.

As the spring progresses and we have more receivers available with similar speed and route running, this should smooth out a lot for both Levis and Allen and the receiving crew.

Dogging anyone on the team just to make yourself feel better is a dk move. If you watched the games objectively we had receivers open on most plays we ran against most teams
 
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Sure it will be earned on the field but....

- The 3rd WR last year was not great at all last year, especially saw the problem when Ali missed a few games during the year and then in the bowl game. We basically threw all those balls to TE and doubled down on more Wandale.

- DeMarcus Harris didn't do a bad job but Magwood struggled a good bit IMO to make plays. Those 2 are the top guys for 2nd WR spot. Tae Tae Crumes has been a name thrown around for a few years but when Ali went down...he never even gets on the field.

- I think Javon Baker will be the new Ali as Tayvion Robinson will be the new Wandale come 2022 IMO.
Magwood and Harris played in 8 combined games and had 12 catches between them

There is nothing to go by there, they didn't get targeted much at all to know if they would make an impact

Always destined to be an asinine take with your name attached
 
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is he really a SEC RB

If he plays for UK then yes.

The UK staff wouldn't offer him if there wasn't SEC talent and measurables there. Unless we think the staff has suddenly lost their ability to evaluate a player, and then that would be user error on our part.

The real question is whether HE thinks he has the stuff to earn playing time at UK with the RBs that will be here next fall and afterwards. Is he talented, competitive, AND driven enough to take playing time from others, or is he just wanting a scholarship that comes with an almost certain starting role?

The staff has offered, they've recruited, they've visited him right before signing day, so they obviously believe he can contribute.
 
Yeah, it ultimately just comes down to what the staff is looking for.

Ecactly.

It's nor just about talent but FIT. If a player doesn't play the way they need them to, talent/rating isn't enough. Transfers are not development projects. We can't afford those unless they are expected to be here 3-4 years, or they aren't at Urgent need positions.

We may "miss out" on some prospects transferring just like the other 110+ schools they didn't transfer to, but we won't truly know if we "missed " anything, since we don't know fit, heart, or discipline of the player.

Frazier for instance was someone they thought could fit. He likely proved otherwise by going where the competition was easier regardless of his reasons. We accommodated his request to go elsewhere. Is that a "miss"?

No. Everything has to match up, because that's what the game is about. We are more specific in our needs than most programs right now. That's good and that's difficult at the same time.

We'll find the right combination if it's out there to be found.
 
If he plays for UK then yes.

The UK staff wouldn't offer him if there wasn't SEC talent and measurables there. Unless we think the staff has suddenly lost their ability to evaluate a player, and then that would be user error on our part.

The real question is whether HE thinks he has the stuff to earn playing time at UK with the RBs that will be here next fall and afterwards. Is he talented, competitive, AND driven enough to take playing time from others, or is he just wanting a scholarship that comes with an almost certain starting role?

The staff has offered, they've recruited, they've visited him right before signing day, so they obviously believe he can contribute.
if they was sold on him think they would have closed the deal in the early
signing day.
think they sign two better running backs in next class now that C Rod returned.
 
I think the concern about receivers at this point is a little premature. Levis got here late and didn't have a ton of time to get comfortable with everyone on the team.

I think Magwood is a budding star. He gets open and he will start making plays, I think going through the Spring and Summer building chemistry with Levis will be big for him.

Levis' growth will start making the receivers look better starting this year. For 3/4 of last year, Levis would either scramble or lock on with his primary. That started getting much better the last three games and should really get better in year two of running Coen's offense.
 
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