Its hilarious how hard you're trying to avoid just conceding how shitty your argument is. Its really simple, yes or no: if we have a great season next year, did Cal hold up his end of the bargain for that season, regardless of whether Sharpe played? I will easily say that if he has another mediocre yearin 22-23, then he didn't hold up his end. Thats true regardless of whether Sharpe plays. Why is it so hard for you to do the same?
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I can name a couple.One guy said fans are mean to Cal so he hopes Cal goes to North Carolina and wins a title.You still say that's not just a Cal fan?
Entitlement? What about all the wasted time that has been spent on coaching him in practice that should’ve been devoted to guys who are actually gonna play here. Cal leaves 2-3 scholarships open every year instead of giving them to players who could be developed & possibly ready to contribute after a cpl seasons, making the transition after the inevitable mass exodus a little smoother.
But, he’d rather give scholarships to guys who have no interest in playing here, or just not give them out, period, & be short handed all season, than to use it on developmental players or KY kids who have dreamed of playing for UK their entire lives. There are tons of solid players who would happily serve their time on the bench in order to develop & be a part of the program. But, then, that’s another 2-3 players that he’d have to coach, which would momentarily take his focus away from the latest diva who can’t get outta town fast enough. And, we can’t have that.
The one & done is bad enough. This bs is unacceptable & shouldn’t be tolerated anywhere. I had no doubt whatsoever that Sharpe would be in the 22 draft. Neither did Cal. Although, he sure let on like he didn’t know. Alluding to Kyle Tucker’s comment, I’m sure he DIDN’T want the speculation running rampant. He knew what the reaction would be.
Everyone defending this shit & telling ppl to find a new team is putting the coach above the university, too. I honestly can’t understand how this wouldn’t piss off any real UK fan. Sharpe & Cal fans might love it. But, it does nothing for UK & takes our coaches attention off of their actual players in order to basically coach a kid on the side for a draft slot. Cal is willing to compromise his own team if it means he helps a kid improve his draft stock. In no scenario is that not sickening, to me.
Bullshit. Yes there are.
He’s one of the best salesman I’ve ever seen. That’s why he’s so dominant. If someone isn’t mentally fit to handle it, they can easily become a Calipari fan and throw UK to the back burner. We have fans OKAY with players not playing and Cal keeping on. That’s a Cal fan, not a UK fan.
I don’t think you’re one, but I can make 5 easy that fit into this camp.
Honestly, none of this is Sharpe’s fault. He’s doing EXACTLY what I would have him do if he were my son.
If it’s true that Cal/UK knew about this all along and downplayed/hid it, then any and all anger needs to be directed at him. The kid is enjoying all the perks of UK without giving anything in return. Again, that’s on Cal. If his signing prevented someone else from signing who would play, that’s on Cal. If you fronted big money for NIL for Sharpe and he never sees the floor so that you can feel that you got a nice ROI, that’s on Cal.
If Sharpe never plays but enjoys all the spoils that UK has to offer, expect this same scenario to happen again.
If it’s true that Cal/UK knew about this all along and downplayed/hid it, then any and all anger needs to be directed at him. The kid is enjoying all the perks of UK without giving anything in return. Again, that’s on Cal. If his signing prevented someone else from signing who would play, that’s on Cal. If you fronted big money for NIL for Sharpe and he never sees the floor so that you can feel that you got a nice ROI, that’s on Cal.
If Sharpe never plays but enjoys all the spoils that UK has to offer, expect this same scenario to happen again.
Its funny you don't get what I'm trying to tell you. Sharpe playing gives KENTUCKY the best chance to have a great season. Him not playing does not give Kentucky the best chance to win.
I do put a good amount of blame on Cal for this.. but not all (see posts from the other day). It's possible that Sharpe and his family had this all planned from day1.
But still think Cal should have been more privvy to what was transpiring.
I guess we need to wait and see what actually happens. But it sure seems like he's never going to play a game for us. And boy, I'd sure have my new most hated NBA player.
If this doesn’t piss someone off, and they’re backing Calipari here, whether or not they realize it, they’re no real UK fan anymore. They need to quit listening to him and evaluate.
It certainly sounds like it if they were trying to keep it quiet. Duh.
I think we both know there’s a reason Sharpe is at UK and not Duke. If I’m wrong then I’ll admit it, but I said this much the other day, and here we are.
One thing is certain if Sharpe doesn't play and bolts, NIL providers will be peeved and clauses will need to be put in place in the future.
The rah-rah boys love it. They can go into their NBA subreddits and brag about how cool Cal is for all the draft picks he has and how he owns the NBA.
Tell him now, either you're playing or you're off the team.
Okay, and guess what? Thats not what I'm asking. So stop answering the question you wished I'd asked and answer the one I'm asking: if Cal wins big next year, regardless of whether Sharpe plays, did Cal hold up his end?
If you just keep dodging such an insanely easy question as "if Cal has a good season, will you agree he did a good job?" then at least please stop feigning shock that some posters would question whether you actually care about UK winning.
People are fans of teams. There is nobody here that's jumping ship once Cal leaves or came on board just because Cal was coach. The coach is part of the team tho. While they are here, I'll support whoever is in that position. When they leave, I'll go back to being indifferent about them most likely. I would imagine the large majority of fans are like that.
I cannot think of anyone I know that watches sports that was like oh well they got rid of this coach and he went to another school or team so I'm switching my fandom to them.
People that are regulars on here are a rare breed. They are the diehards. No one is switching sides here.
Ive never met a real UK fan in person that is even close to those few guys. I still think some of them are rival Louisville fans that love this. It makes no sense to be OKAY with your team constantly losing an edge.
Because I never said that. You are trying to get me to agree to a point that I never said.
Next season isn't a championship team with no Sharpe.We have some nice recruits but not a star player.We lost on Lively and Bona and Oscar will leave.
I'll be the first to blame Cal if he did this fully knowing how it would go down.. just another kid he can say he got to the NBA. But I'm still not sure yet. For even as bad as Cal has been with the NBA angle.. he'd be crazy to try this stunt after the year he had last season. He has to know that if he actually USED Sharpe, we might have had a team that wins the title, as opposed to one that'd a 6-seed and loses in the opening weekend. It would be baffling to me if he allowed that to happen.
1. I in no way think I’m superior to you. Not sure where that came from. But you sound extremely liberal trying to put words into my mouth 🤡😘
2. I don’t have the vaccine, and have no plans of getting it until there’s ample time to show efficacy AND so I can see if the possible the side effects are worth the upside. That being said, I couldn’t care less if you had the vaccine, west a mask, etc.. You do you. But again, thank you for assuming and making an ass out of UandME.
and 3. You showed your hand when you said “ALL I CARE ABOUT” is sharpe playing and giving us a better chance to win. Literally the EPITOME of a selfish bastard.
Kinda sounding like you’re the one on the high horse looking down but okay
Yeah what is the purpose of him taking up scholarships and NIL that could go to other guys if he’s here to enjoy half a year of college with no responsibility to play whatsoever and he’s getting paid to sit on the bench?
Wow. Land the number one guy and he might never play a meaningful minute here.
If Calipari wins a title this year or next I don’t care if Davis recommits from the Lakers then Decommits. Nobody does. That’s the part that lost on many.
But in real time, real UK fans are sick of this and the NBA / Cal fans need to accept it and shut it. There’s no reasonable UK fan that can’t understand why people are sick of this. Not one.
Cal will share some of the blame. But I think if the number one player says he wants to come and play, you have to take a shot.
No offense to you, but acting as if an opinion about what will happen in the future is an established fact isn't really an argument.
If Cal doesn't deliver a high caliber team, he didn't do a good job. If he does, he did a good job. If you really care about UK winning - not supporting/attacking Cal, etc., its that simple, and there's really not much room for debate.
Weird day in UK fandom where you get questioned for being a fan for BEING MAD about a player using UKs clout and facilities and then never playing a second for UK.
And Sharpe gives us the best chance to have that high caliber team. Him not playing hurts that goal. Therefore he didn't do a good job.
And ultimately, that's probably what happened. If I had to bet, I'd bet that Sharpe at least mentioned a possibility of his plans, or not at all. I don't think Cal would be THAT insnae to take a kid he knew wasn't going to play.
The problem is, wow.. we have months possibly to see how this plays out.
You seriously don’t think signing the top player at his position doesn’t steer others away? Seriously? That happens every year for every school.
I think a few of them have outed themselves as Louisville trolls. The other few are just too ate up in Cals salesman ability to think straight. I saw this at Memphis too, he’s that good. And I for one want to start a Rupp rafters car lot. Gotta be enough of them to make a profit.
Most truthful thing Cal has said in a long time
Coach Calipari, to this point, has remained adamant that Sharpe will not play for Kentucky in 2022.
“We haven’t talked about (him playing), the family hasn’t talked about it,” Calipari stated after Sharpe's first week on campus. “My guess would be, he’s fine. Let’s get him in shape and go from there. THERE WAS NEVER A PLAN TO PLAY HIM.”
Coach Calipari, to this point, has remained adamant that Sharpe will not play for Kentucky in 2022.
“We haven’t talked about (him playing), the family hasn’t talked about it,” Calipari stated after Sharpe's first week on campus. “My guess would be, he’s fine. Let’s get him in shape and go from there. THERE WAS NEVER A PLAN TO PLAY HIM.”
That hasn't happened yet. You are mad about something you assume will happen. Sharpe may not play here but there is just as much a chance that he will. He has said repeatedly that he wasn't coming in this year to leave for the NBA and that he would play at UK next year. He has given no one a single reason to not take him at his word. He deserves that courtesy from us. If he goes to the NBA this year, then that is the time to be mad. That time isn't now.
Weird day in UK fandom when fans get upset about a player that might or might not play this year, that wasn’t even supposed to be here until next year.
I'll Travis Branhams word over a kid and his family who see 15 million dollars flashed in front of them.
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