It’s not just this board:
ESPN analyst Jonathan Givony tweeted Friday morning that Sarr’s case “should be a pretty straightforward waiver request based on precedent and the circumstances of his coach’s firing.”
Sarr officially in transfer portal
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It’s not just this board:
ESPN analyst Jonathan Givony tweeted Friday morning that Sarr’s case “should be a pretty straightforward waiver request based on precedent and the circumstances of his coach’s firing.”
I think you’re right too but even still I don’t think he’ll return to Wake. He seems to have no interest in returning there and even alluded that he’d go play in Europe/ the G league before going back to WF.
The good news is that even if we don't land this kid, some of our fans will once again crank out of the poison Kool-aid and announce how we still "have enough" for next year without him.
“Still a top 5 team without him” - Delusional fans
This seems like a no brainer to pick UK
1. If you come you have a good shot at a nice NCAA tourney run.
2. All the playing time you can handle.
3. Treated like a rockstar by the most rabid fan base in the country.
4. Greatest college basketball program...ever.
I wanted Haarms pretty bad....I want this one even more.
Haha....I'd agree. if he's not a top 20 draft pick then he's not much of a difference maker.
Almost as insane as trolling a UK board pretending to be one.
As opposed to crying about how awful we are going to be all year long? Lord forbid, Kentucky fans with a number one recruiting class, albeit unbalanced, dare be positive.
Is there a difference between tempering expectations based on actual roster limitations and "crying about how awful we are going to be all year long?"
Some of our fans will oversell on guys like Ware and Jackson being immediate-impact players. They'll likewise negate the echoes of their own hollow words that once placed irrational expectations on guys like Richards, WCS, SKJ, Wynyard, Humphries, Lee, Dakari Johnson, etc. when those guys were coming to Kentucky as freshmen.
Seldom do bigs outperform the widespread analysis of recruiting guys who are paid to project accurately. Jackson and Ware are in all likelihood going to be longer-term project players who will, at most, be solid role players as freshmen.
We need another player if we're going to compete for an SEC title and a Final Four next year.
Cal needs to throw the kitchen sink at this kid. Come in Cal I know you deliver when you have too!
Amen.
It gets old with the whole idea that you are either a sunshine pumper or a Debbie downer. Most of us are somewhere in the middle.
Sure there is, but you claimed that saying we have enough was "cranking out the poison kool-aid." Why yes, anyone who dares be postive about what we have, is cult-like. Tempering? More like mocking.
And have you noticed, despite the username, they all say the same thing, in almost the same wording? Hmm
Good post.
Our team, as is, will be a Sweet Sixteen ceiling team, IMHO.
That’s okay, though. I think we will get some of these guys back next season.
I also think it will force Cal to play some small ball, which I am looking forward to, to a certain extent.
Our team right now is tailor made for a four guard offense.
I think we will want Askew, Mintz, Clarke, Boston, and Brooks on the floor as much as possible.
So Cal should run an offense that takes advantage of their strengths. Run some five out motion, run the PnR and PnP with Brooks.
Run a defense that works for them as well. Don’t leave Brooks on an island inside with a 6’10, 240 lbs. player. Play some (heaven forbid) zone and double team the post from time to time.
I just don’t see Jackson at 6’10, 200 lbs. making much of an impact in year one. He is not a consensus 5-star elite superstar like AD or Noel. He is a composite 4-star (#28). He is not an instant impact player. Same way with Ware (#31).
And Frank Anselem (#85) is not the answer either.
Cal is going to need to play a style that will help us win. He needs to put his best five on the floor and exploit mismatches.
But talking about a Final Four and title next season is just silly, IMHO, with the roster we currently have on paper.
Sorry if that makes me a card carrying member of CLOD in some people’s eyes. I just tell it like it is.
I really don’t pay attention to that.
There are a hand full of posters I trust to see things as they are without blue tinted glasses, though.
Their words carry much more weight with me.
Everyone should try to see things for what they are, you're correct. Even when it's something you don't necessarily want to see.
I'll try to distinguish what I wrote so as to be more clear.
I do think anyone who's saying "we have enough" - if in reference to having enough to compete for a title - is naive and worthy of having their position resoundingly rebutted.
Since you originally quoted my post, I replied to your accusation of "crying" by responding to what my position actually is - which is one that tempers expectations based on the quality of our present roster. I do not think we have enough to win a title, but also don't think we'll be "awful".
I never said we would be awful. I think it's more reasonable to expect a Sweet Sixteenish outcome, 24 to 27 wins, finish top 3 in the SEC, ranked around 10-15 at the time of Selection Sunday.
But since dealing in vague statements is not serving either of us well on this matter, I'll ask you directly - do you think the present roster, without any other additions, "has enough" to seriously compete for a national championship?
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Agree, we obviously have a need for a big man and it's hard to understand why we're having such a hard time getting one, especially through the transfer route. However, who knows what kids are thinking?
When your basis for "competing for a title" is based on the overall lack of good teams in a field, I'm not sure that's a reliable recipe for success.
Try to win six straight elimination games based on the "overall inferiority" of the field as your top foundation of potential tournament success, and I can assure you that the overwhelming majority of the time you're going to be thoroughly disappointed with the result.
Don't believe me? If you could compare the roster constructions of Kentucky's 2010, 2014, 2018, and 2019 teams before the season and/or tournament and compare them to West Virignia's, UConn's, Kansas State's, and Auburn's, how would you have liked Kentucky's chances in those tournament games?
Yet, what was the result?
Try to win six straight elimination games based on the "overall inferiority" of the field as your top foundation of potential tournament success, and I can assure you that the overwhelming majority of the time you're going to be thoroughly disappointed with the result.
Don't believe me? If you could compare the roster constructions of Kentucky's 2010, 2014, 2018, and 2019 teams before the season and/or tournament and compare them to West Virignia's, UConn's, Kansas State's, and Auburn's, how would you have liked Kentucky's chances in those tournament games?
Yet, what was the result?
Truth.
I can't really think of any UK season where the team vastly outperformed the pre-season expectations (maybe the 2004 team?). Even the 2014 team was considered a favorite at the beginning of the year. There have obviously been more cases where the team under performed based on expectation (2002, 1994, 2013).
Our most talented teams over the last 30 years were also the ones that typically finished in at least the Elite Eight and often had no major weakness from a position level. Exceptions to this general rule were in 1999 (no shooting guard), 2002 (point guard play was inconsistent, but they finished in the Sweet Sixteen), 2010 (no shooters), 2011 (no depth), 2017 (no high level 4 man), 2019 (weak at point guard).
Usually, the thing that makes us concerned the most as fans going into the season proves to be one of the major reasons Kentucky doesn't advance later in the season.
Pretending that it will all "work out in the end" is delusional and disconnected from the historical sample size at hand.
Yes, there are 4 user names on here that I’m sure are the same person. They all:
1. Defend Cal like he is their kin.
2. Insult anyone who disagrees with them.
3. Start baiting posts after a win as if it proves points they’ve been making.
4. Dig up old posts to to try and stir up sh*t.
5. Last but not least, they rarely post anything that isn’t argumentative.
I am certain there's more than 4. And you're absolutely correct on those 5 things. It makes them easy to spot, though one of the accounts tries to act a bit more simplistic.
Here is a semi-complete list of players who earned eligibility waivers in 2019. Links to each players’ Sports Reference pages are included as well. And this list does not include freshman that transferred and were immediately eligible. Based on the head coach being fired and the coronavirus issue I think Sarr's chances of receiving a waiver are very good.
Seniors (non-grad transfers)
Markus Golder, Portland State (via Valparaiso)
Lamar Hamrick, Portland State (via Detroit)
Jaylen Poyser, McNeese State (via St. Bonaventure)
Mohamed Thiam, Iona (via New Mexico State)
Juniors
Alex Barcello, BYU (via Arizona)
Chris Barnes, Eastern Michigan (via Tulsa)
Troy Baxter, Morgan State (via Florida Gulf Coast)
Tervell Beck, Kent State (via UNLV)
Khameron Davis, Weber State (via Pittsburgh)
Andrew Gordon, Louisiana Tech (via West Virginia)
Elias Harden, Jacksonville State (via Xavier)
Danya Kingsby, Bradley (via LSU)
John Knight III, Southern Utah (via Utah State)
Zeke Moore, SIU-Edwardsville (via Tulsa)
Donnie Tillman, UNLV (via Utah)
John Walker, Texas Southern (via Texas A&M)
Isaiah Washington, Iona (via Minnesota)
Shawn Williams, New Mexico State (via East Carolina)
Sophomores
Darius Beane, Northern Illinois (via Southern Illinois)
Shandon Brown, Niagara (via George Washington)
Michael Carter III, Long Beach State (via South Dakota State)
Karrington Davis, Southern Illinois (via Nebraska)
Duncan DeMuth, Vermont (via Oklahoma State)
Trey Doomes, Chattanooga (via West Virginia)
Myles Douglas, Saint Joseph’s (via UCF)
Amir Harris, George Washington (via Nebraska)
Brady Heiman, South Dakota (via Nebraska)
Chase Johnson, Dayton (via Florida)
Joshua Mballa, Buffalo (via Texas Tech)
Angus McWilliam, UC Riverside (via TCU)
L.J. Owens, UMBC (via William & Mary)
Jared Rodriguez, San Diego (via Idaho)
Omar Silverio, Hofstra (via Rhode Island)
Tyler Stewart, Saint Francis (PA) (via Binghamton)
Calvin Temple, Louisiana (via IUPUI)
David Wingett, South Dakota State (via Memphis)
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Good research.
How many transferred because of a coach being fired?
Also, just an observation, no P5 schools on the list of destinations. I found that interesting.
I agree but many got a waiver for no reason. Sarrs has his coach being fired and the coronavirus. Some think the NCAA will be more lenient on transfers this year due to the virus.
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Hope you are right, if we get him.
This should be a no-brained, but this is the NCAA we are talking about. They are not the model of consistency or the champions of fairness and equity.
I totally agree and since we are Kentucky they could certainly rule against us.
I try not to feel that way, because I think it sounds bad for us UK fans to always blame the NCAA or refs for everything, but it sometimes feels that way.
If left in the hands of the NCAA, I never expect them to rule in UK’s favor. Especially since Cal has been coach and the whole Kanter ordeal.
and some will still be begging for Cal to cheat
then when we get caught they will be the first in line screaming "FIRE CAL"
