Riley Gaines / Joe Rogan

[Girthang]

But what about this specific issue with this specific dude? The NCAA and certain schools threatened the female athletes if they didn't accept his participation. That should be seen as wrong to anyone that believes in rights.

For instance... did you know that Thomas had a girlfriend at the time and was having regular sex with her? I feel sorry for him because he's obviously got serious mental issues... but it's not right to punish a bunch of women because we want one dude to feel accepted in womens sports.

Everyone in charge of things KNOWS ALL OF THIS and still forced/foisted him upon these women. THAT'S what's completely jacked up about ALL OF THIS.

I don't feel sorry for him one bit, and don't believe anyone should. This is a criminal type exploitation and not some mental issue or symptom. This guy has calculated and taken advantage of a SICK system that needs to be changed or banned from being allowed to act as if it can be trusted to protect those in its system.

There's nothing left to talk about. He's nothing more than a peeping Thomas getting off on this whole crime. The ones allowing it should go to prison.

 

[Stan the caddy]

Still not convinced she isn't a tran herself. Very manly features.

 

[KAB Cats]

Still not convinced she isn't a tran herself. Very manly features.

Shouldn’t have taken 7 pages for this to be called out to be honest

 

[NociHTTP]

Still not convinced she isn't a tran herself. Very manly features.

No such thing as "a tran". Did you mean "transwoman"?

 

[NociHTTP]

Everyone in charge of things KNOWS ALL OF THIS and still forced/foisted him upon these women. THAT'S what's completely jacked up about ALL OF THIS.

I don't feel sorry for him one bit, and don't believe anyone should. This is a criminal type exploitation and not some mental issue or symptom. This guy has calculated and taken advantage of a SICK system that needs to be changed or banned from being allowed to act as if it can be trusted to protect those in its system.

There's nothing left to talk about. He's nothing more than a peeping Thomas getting off on this whole crime. The ones allowing it should go to prison.

Trump needs your dollars.

 

[cole854]

Well trans people have to be biologically something, you dense ass

You know exactly what I was saying/explaining.

....or maybe you didn't. Sorry for not holding up a cue card.

 

[hmt5000]

Everyone in charge of things KNOWS ALL OF THIS and still forced/foisted him upon these women. THAT'S what's completely jacked up about ALL OF THIS.

I don't feel sorry for him one bit, and don't believe anyone should. This is a criminal type exploitation and not some mental issue or symptom. This guy has calculated and taken advantage of a SICK system that needs to be changed or banned from being allowed to act as if it can be trusted to protect those in its system.

There's nothing left to talk about. He's nothing more than a peeping Thomas getting off on this whole crime. The ones allowing it should go to prison.

Yep. That's why im "pissed" about this issue. It's not like they are giving the women a fair chance to object. Riley told the story of one swim team was going to vote 17 to 0 to not let a dude on the team. The school made them listen to him plead with them first. Dude said if they didn't let him on the team he was going to kill himself. They ended up voting like 15 to 2 to let him on the team.

Nobody would want their sisters, daughters or wives put in a situation like that. Whether it's one time or 5 times... it should be zero. People should be sued to hell over that.

 

[Col. Angus]

One of the most ignorant, and hateful comments I've seen on RR.

But we ain’t on RR.

I get it. I’m sorry. I just like winning. I’ll do anything. I’m ashamed of myself.

 

[MatteoV25]

You know exactly what I was saying/explaining.

....or maybe you didn't. Sorry for not holding up a cue card.

But you understand that biological male vs biological male would still include trans females though. Don't be gaslighting because you didn't clearly make your point.

 

[KAB Cats]

Yep. That's why im "pissed" about this issue. It's not like they are giving the women a fair chance to object. Riley told the story of one swim team was going to vote 17 to 0 to not let a dude on the team. The school made them listen to him plead with them first. Dude said if they didn't let him on the team he was going to kill himself. They ended up voting like 15 to 2 to let him on the team.

Nobody would want their sisters, daughters or wives put in a situation like that. Whether it's one time or 5 times... it should be zero. People should be sued to hell over that.

I have some reservations about the authenticity of that story and others she told. And the reason for that is that I suspect she was always politically driven and saw this issue as an opportunity

 

[Col. Angus]

You've only confirmed to everyone here that you're obtuse beyond repair. Lay off the sauce.

You’re just now realizing the depths of my depravity. I’m glad ya caught on but disappointed it took this long.

I just don’t think dudes should be legit competing against chicks just because they have a mental illness. People can be whatever they wanna be in privacy, it’s when such a small minority of the population starts pushing it on everybody else and expecting em to conform I have a problem with.

I’ve known 3 trans people. Great folks. Would never know it unless they told ya.

 

[KAB Cats]

Imagining supernatural all knowing deities could be deemed as a form of mental illness.

Don’t @ me

 

[hmt5000]

I have some reservations about the authenticity of that story and others she told. And the reason for that is that I suspect she was always politically driven and saw this issue as an opportunity

So you doubt her story without proof but have doubts about her without proof... Cool. The fact she never said anything until after the championship meet says a lot to me. If she were an atheist and had a problem with a dude changing in front of her would you take her more seriously? And you'd agree that Thomas was cheating in every meet he competed in as a woman right?

 

[Bill Cosby]

So if you don't listen to scientists for scientific issues, where do you get your information? Your years of constant Covid rambling is exhausting. At some point we all have to move on with our lives

Studies show that the difference isn't as big as you think.

Save that debate for the political thread, your hyperbolic phrases don't help any kind of real conversation

I didn’t say don’t listen to “scientists” you dunce. I just figured anyone with a functioning brain cell would look at actual data and seek input from people who’ve studied the topic, not just outsource their thinking to what “scientists” are reported to agree on. What the hell “scientists” are you even talking about?

Wrong.

Child abuse and mentally ill adults projecting their diseases on to children is not politics. Shameful you’d think otherwise.

 

[hmt5000]

I didn’t say don’t listen to “scientists” you dunce. I just figured anyone with a functioning brain cell would look at actual data and seek input from people who’ve studied the topic, not just outsource their thinking to what “scientists” are reported to agree on. What the hell “scientists” are you even talking about?

Wrong.

Child abuse and mentally ill adults projecting their diseases on to children is not politics. Shameful you’d think otherwise.

The Scandanavian countries have been doing this for decades and are abandoning it for a reason. The science shows that transitioning children away from their birth sex harms far more kids than it helps.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Imagining supernatural all knowing deities could be deemed as a form of mental illness.

Don’t @ me

That’s actually an interesting take.

Hadn’t thought about the comparison between priests abusing children similar to adults putting children on puberty blockers.

But really, both are just adults confusing and abusing children for their own sick twisted pleasure.

 

[hmt5000]

That’s actually an interesting take.

Hadn’t thought about the comparison between priests abusing children similar to adults putting children on puberty blockers.

But really, both are just adults confusing and abusing children for their own sick twisted pleasure.

I always wondered why Christianity gets blamed for priest having sex with little boys but they skip over the sexual orientation of a priest who has sex with other males... Just a weird observation.

 

[KAB Cats]

So you doubt her story without proof but have doubts about her without proof... Cool. The fact she never said anything until after the championship meet says a lot to me. If she were an atheist and had a problem with a dude changing in front of her would you take her more seriously? And you'd agree that Thomas was cheating in every meet he competed in as a woman right?

Yes I have doubts about her story. Are you arguing I don’t? What are we arguing about? Also, what’s it have to do with atheism?

Regardless, you should put your outrage to good use. You can donate to Riley here:

Donate to The Riley Gaines Center

The Riley Gaines Center identifies and recruits those silenced and cancelled by the left.

rileygainescenter.org

 

[MatteoV25]

I didn’t say don’t listen to “scientists” you dunce. I just figured anyone with a functioning brain cell would look at actual data and seek input from people who’ve studied the topic, not just outsource their thinking to what “scientists” are reported to agree on. What the hell “scientists” are you even talking about?

Wrong.

Child abuse and mentally ill adults projecting their diseases on to children is not politics. Shameful you’d think otherwise.

You seem like you’d be a great time at parties

 

[Bill Cosby]

You seem like you’d be a great time at parties

You seem like you’d never get invited to parties.

 

[MatteoV25]

You seem like you’d never get invited to parties.

Yes, the fact that I tend to listen to what a majority of experts believe on a topic sure is a true indicator on my likelihood to be invited to parties. Go scream at the clouds some more grandpop

 

[Col. Angus]

You seem like you’d be a great time at parties

Psh he don’t go to parties.

 

[Col. Angus]

Called the sportsplex. They said as long as there’s no noticeable bulge and the wig is clipped onto my hair and not one ya just pull over your head I could play against the women. Good thing I’m hung like a mosquito. I’d do anything for free food, because ya know… fat.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Yes, the fact that I tend to listen to what a majority of experts believe on a topic sure is a true indicator on my likelihood to be invited to parties. Go scream at the clouds some more grandpop

It’s actually your vocal support of child abuse, not the outsourcing of thought processes.

 

[MatteoV25]

It’s actually your vocal support of child abuse, not the outsourcing of thought processes.

I'm confused, when did I vocally support child abuse? I'm pretty sure I just asked you to move it to the political thread

 

[SDC888]

Imagining supernatural all knowing deities could be deemed as a form of mental illness.

Don’t @ me

Mental illness must be detrimental.

If a delusion , as you would think it, was to only have positive effects on the person experiencing it, then it could not be categorized as an illness... or even a delusion for that matter.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Still not convinced she isn't a tran herself. Very manly features.

What is a “manly” feature? Sounds like you don’t understand modern gender vernacular.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Shouldn’t have taken 7 pages for this to be called out to be honest

True. I would have thought the ad hominem comments from the peanut gallery would have been far more prevalent.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

No such thing as "a tran". Did you mean "transwoman"?

Are you a tran? Maybe Stan is a tran? Stan the tran?

I think there are trans among us.

 

[Stan the caddy]

What is a “manly” feature? Sounds like you don’t understand modern gender vernacular.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…..

 

[Caveman Catfan]

I have some reservations about the authenticity of that story and others she told. And the reason for that is that I suspect she was always politically driven and saw this issue as an opportunity

KAB has “suspicions.” Riley worked her ass off to be a top tier swimmer so she could fulfill her political ambitions. I wonder if she paid Lia to “transition without transitioning” so she could meet her objective and satisfy your “suspicions.”

Can you please start a thread about your suspicions?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Yes, the fact that I tend to listen to what a majority of experts believe on a topic sure is a true indicator on my likelihood to be invited to parties. Go scream at the clouds some more grandpop

And, the ageist comments finally get posted bringing wild credibility to the poster.

 

[thabigbluenation]

One of the most ignorant, and hateful comments I've seen on RR.

Maybe these boards aren't for you. You literally complimented Col A and he's likely having a blast at your expense . And he would totally dominate girls in pickle ball.

 

[MatteoV25]

And, the ageist comments finally get posted bringing wild credibility to the poster.

Ageist? He's a grandfather

 

[ukcatz12]

I suspect there is still a physical advantage to being a boy, but admit I don’t know. Not sure anyone does.

This is something that is not well studied because the population of study participants couldn't really be too large, but there are studies. Neither side of the argument will really like the results because they're incredibly nuanced.

The only thing you can really say with certainty is people who think a transgender woman (someone born male) definitely has an advantage over cisgender women are wrong. People who say a transgender woman definitely does not have an advantage over cisgender women are also wrong. 99.999% of the people arguing on either side of this argument isn't knowledgeable enough on the topic to be so certain in their opinion. That includes the politicians on both sides of the aisle.

The data shows it all depends on what type of athleticism we're talking about and how long after transition that athleticism is being assessed.

Here is one of the few comprehensive studies, but it really only looks at pushups, pull ups, and 1.5 mile running times. After two years of hormone treatment there is zero statistical significance between the 1.5 mile times of transgender women when compared to cisgender women. After four years there was zero statistical significance in the maximum number of pushups and a very slight difference in the maximum number of pull ups.

A single study does not prove anything. It's an area that requires a lot more research but unfortunately that research is hard to come by.

Bottom line, the people who say "Obviously a man [referring to a transgender women] would have an advantage over women" are wrong. The people who say "There are obviously no differences between the two" are also wrong.

 

[IdaCat]

Riley Gaines is not the only female athlete who has come out with their experiences in this shit.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Ageist? He's a grandfather

lol

 

[MatteoV25]

Riley Gaines is not the only female athlete who has come out with their experiences in this shit.

What?! No way! I'm shocked that this has happened more than once, how could we have possibly known that?

 

[Col. Angus]

Riley Gaines is not the only female athlete who has come out with their experiences in this shit.

Yea well it’s only been a few and that’s not a big deal for girls that don’t wanna see peckers floppin around in their locker rooms. Gotta be way more floppin peckers before it becomes a problem in my opinion.

I’d tell em to just get over it. Like I did earlier at the sportsplex.

 

[KAB Cats]

KAB has “suspicions.” Riley worked her ass off to be a top tier swimmer so she could fulfill her political ambitions. I wonder if she paid Lia to “transition without transitioning” so she could meet her objective and satisfy your “suspicions.”

Can you please start a thread about your suspicions?

I think you're in the thread, bub. Also, you're the king of the strawmen in these arguments. Where did I type that "Riley worked her ass of to be a top tier swimmer so that she could fulfill her political ambitions." That's not what I said. I said she's a political opportunist with political ambitions. Whether or not the broad is good at backstroke isn't relevant.