He’s not going 2 but Reed is getting drafted high. I think a lot of you are trying to convince yourself that he’s not because you believed he’d be here for more than 1 year.
I listed known shooters who have or had NBA careers because of their elite shooting ability. All the guys you listed have significantly more lateral quickness than Reed and I don’t realistically think he can guard any of them. I suspect you disagree which is fine.Shroder 6’1
Gabe Vincent 6’2
Jevon Carter 6’1
Bones Hyland 6’2
Chris Paul 6’0
Gary Payton II 6’2
Darius Garland 6’1
Cole Anthony 6’2
Jalen Brunson 6’2
Devonte’ Graham 6’1
Tre Jones 6’1
Collin Gillespie 6’1
Reggie Jackson 6’2
Mike Conley 6’0
Monte Morris 6’2
Malachi Flynn 6’1
Marcus Sasser 6’2
Payton Pritchard 6’1
Patty Mills 6’2
Trae Young 6’1
Jacob Gilyard 5’8
Tyus Jones 6’1
Tyrese Maxey 6’2
Immanuel Quickley 6’2
This is just a sampling of guys 6’2 or smaller. And you can see Reed is as good or better than several of these guys already. It seems you are concerned about height more than the NBA guys that will be drafting the players.
As I stated in my post I don’t think Reed has the handle to play NBA PG consistently maybe in some emergency possessions. He gets the ball stolen from him at least once a game at the college level. Those kinds of players in my experience don’t go on to be ball handlers in the NBA. I listed players that are known as elite shooters and I think Reed is the best shooter in the country this year.I don't get your list of comparatives here ...unless it's just an example of that old trope about some folks thinking white players must always be compared to other white players.
Those players are distinctly different than Reed in the sense that they're pure wings (and a few like Robinson, Dick, Harris play nearly entirely at the SF spot). None of them have the point guard skills that Reed does. None of showed anything even near his elite court vision and passing instincts at his age.
Reed's true position is debatable. I think of him as mostly a point, but I guess some don't. But at the very least he is clearly a "combo" guard very well-suited to play the point if that's where he's needed. That ain't the case with the wings you listed.
Somewhat of a point but definitely not in every gameWhen did Calipari “only begrudgingly” play him? He was coming in at the 17 minute mark EVERY game when he wasn’t starting.
I always hated that term even in the best of times. He was always guilty of tooting his own horn when it was absolutely unnecessary.Oh great. Maybe Swaggy Cal will be back!
Big z probably won't be drafted,According to this CBS guy, written Feb 9th:
2024 mock draft projections:
#2 Reed Sheppard
#4 Rob Dillingham
#23 DJ Wagner
#26 Justin Edwards
I don't really agree, I think Rob will be a 7 to 10 range and Reed 15-20 Range. Wagner probably will go 25-30 based on he has played injured much of the season it sounds like holding back his true ability I think. Edwards 35-45 risk/gamble range.
Klutch will somehow get Aaron Bradshaw picked as well mid to late 2nd round.
Big Z probably goes early 2nd round and some team gets a gem to develop.
Reeves is old, but I would take him early 2nd round or even late first round.
All that talent, and year so far a disappointment yes, post season we will see if they can do something.
2024 NBA Mock Draft: French star Alex Sarr goes No. 1; Kentucky has two players in top four
Sarr, an 18-year-old center could make the jump from the NBL to the NBAwww.cbssports.com
As a Jazz fan I'd be ticked at that pick. I've seen this team take Exum with a top 5 pick before and that was a disaster.Unless Utah somehow got that pick. Then it could happen and amazingly enough work out.
My list is not exhaustive. And “all” of these guys do not have more lateral quickness than Reed.I listed known shooters who have or had NBA careers because of their elite shooting ability. All the guys you listed have significantly more lateral quickness than Reed and I don’t realistically think he can guard any of them. I suspect you disagree which is fine.
everyone of these guys eats Reed's lunch. I love the kid, but evidently most of you don't watch the NBA. If you can't play defense, you can't play. He can't play defense. With these bs draft predictions by media outlets, not NBA guys, I can see why people might get excited. But I see him as a Will Levis type, projected high, and then embarrassed in the green room while he waits all night and doesn't hear his name.Shroder 6’1
Gabe Vincent 6’2
Jevon Carter 6’1
Bones Hyland 6’2
Chris Paul 6’0
Gary Payton II 6’2
Darius Garland 6’1
Cole Anthony 6’2
Jalen Brunson 6’2
Devonte’ Graham 6’1
Tre Jones 6’1
Collin Gillespie 6’1
Reggie Jackson 6’2
Mike Conley 6’0
Monte Morris 6’2
Malachi Flynn 6’1
Marcus Sasser 6’2
Payton Pritchard 6’1
Patty Mills 6’2
Trae Young 6’1
Jacob Gilyard 5’8
Tyus Jones 6’1
Tyrese Maxey 6’2
Immanuel Quickley 6’2
This is just a sampling of guys 6’2 or smaller. And you can see Reed is as good or better than several of these guys already. It seems you are concerned about height more than the NBA guys that will be drafting the players.
You obviously do not watch the NBA.No one plays defense in the NBA anymore. These guys should fit right in.
This should be emphasized. Everyone called for Reed to start over DJ. Since he has, we have lost. I understand the Cal hate, he has really struggled in the last 4 years, but to bitch about him not playing people, and then he does and the results get worse, maybe he was doing it right before?He is 1-4 as a starter with his only win against Vandy. 0-4 at home with 3 of those losses against unranked teams.
I like Reed, but for some reason, the more he plays the more we lose.
I hate to point this out but Reed is ahead of DJ in every statistical category.This should be emphasized. Everyone called for Reed to start over DJ. Since he has, we have lost. I understand the Cal hate, he has really struggled in the last 4 years, but to bitch about him not playing people, and then he does and the results get worse, maybe he was doing it right before?
So you want to play DJ in front of Reed when Reed is outperforming him in every statistical category?This should be emphasized. Everyone called for Reed to start over DJ. Since he has, we have lost. I understand the Cal hate, he has really struggled in the last 4 years, but to bitch about him not playing people, and then he does and the results get worse, maybe he was doing it right before?
You can disagree with my opinion it’s a message board that’s the entire point of this platform. But you don’t have to be insulting…..I watch a ton of NBA, read more draft articles than just about anybody on this board I’m not a “message board homer.” I’m an informed, educated, and objective professional and college basketball fan. It happens to be a historically bad draft this year so there isn’t as much competition as usual which helps Reed a lot. I’m aware that Reed has been projected in the lottery since basically the Champions Classic. I totally understand why you think he goes Top 20. I think it’s still early in the process and once the physical variables (height and lateral quickness) are factored in it will drag his stock down during summer workouts/combine to outside the lottery range. But please stop with the insulting name calling.My list is not exhaustive. And “all” of these guys do not have more lateral quickness than Reed.
I get it. Some of you desperately want him to return. But credible mock drafts in February aren’t far off. He’s a top 20 pick. It’s likely he lands in the lottery. And message board homers and their evaluations aren’t going to change that.
You nailed it with historically bad draft that helps Reed.You can disagree with my opinion it’s a message board that’s the entire point of this platform. But you don’t have to be insulting…..I watch a ton of NBA, read more draft articles than just about anybody on this board I’m not a “message board homer.” I’m an informed, educated, and objective professional and college basketball fan. It happens to be a historically bad draft this year so there isn’t as much competition as usual which helps Reed a lot. I’m aware that Reed has been projected in the lottery since basically the Champions Classic. I totally understand why you think he goes Top 20. I think it’s still early in the process and once the physical variables (height and lateral quickness) are factored in it will drag his stock down during summer workouts/combine to outside the lottery range. But please stop with the insulting name calling.
I love Reed but no team is gonna pick him #2. It’s not happening this year or any other. He’s a prototypical #20ish pick IMO.According to this CBS guy, written Feb 9th:
2024 mock draft projections:
#2 Reed Sheppard
#4 Rob Dillingham
#23 DJ Wagner
#26 Justin Edwards
I don't really agree, I think Rob will be a 7 to 10 range and Reed 15-20 Range. Wagner probably will go 25-30 based on he has played injured much of the season it sounds like holding back his true ability I think. Edwards 35-45 risk/gamble range.
Klutch will somehow get Aaron Bradshaw picked as well mid to late 2nd round.
Big Z probably goes early 2nd round and some team gets a gem to develop.
Reeves is old, but I would take him early 2nd round or even late first round.
All that talent, and year so far a disappointment yes, post season we will see if they can do something.
2024 NBA Mock Draft: French star Alex Sarr goes No. 1; Kentucky has two players in top four
Sarr, an 18-year-old center could make the jump from the NBL to the NBAwww.cbssports.com
According to this CBS guy, written Feb 9th:
2024 mock draft projections:
#2 Reed Sheppard
#4 Rob Dillingham
#23 DJ Wagner
#26 Justin Edwards
I don't really agree, I think Rob will be a 7 to 10 range and Reed 15-20 Range. Wagner probably will go 25-30 based on he has played injured much of the season it sounds like holding back his true ability I think. Edwards 35-45 risk/gamble range.
Klutch will somehow get Aaron Bradshaw picked as well mid to late 2nd round.
Big Z probably goes early 2nd round and some team gets a gem to develop.
Reeves is old, but I would take him early 2nd round or even late first round.
All that talent, and year so far a disappointment yes, post season we will see if they can do something.
2024 NBA Mock Draft: French star Alex Sarr goes No. 1; Kentucky has two players in top four
Sarr, an 18-year-old center could make the jump from the NBL to the NBAwww.cbssports.com
He's not going #2 but FWIW, nbadraft.net bumped him from 16 to 9 in yesterday's update.I love Reed but no team is gonna pick him #2. It’s not happening this year or any other. He’s a prototypical #20ish pick IMO.
Whom ever wrote .that is just looking for clicks. Is the NBA so dumb.According to this CBS guy, written Feb 9th:
2024 mock draft projections:
#2 Reed Sheppard
#4 Rob Dillingham
#23 DJ Wagner
#26 Justin Edwards
I don't really agree, I think Rob will be a 7 to 10 range and Reed 15-20 Range. Wagner probably will go 25-30 based on he has played injured much of the season it sounds like holding back his true ability I think. Edwards 35-45 risk/gamble range.
Klutch will somehow get Aaron Bradshaw picked as well mid to late 2nd round.
Big Z probably goes early 2nd round and some team gets a gem to develop.
Reeves is old, but I would take him early 2nd round or even late first round.
All that talent, and year so far a disappointment yes, post season we will see if they can do something.
2024 NBA Mock Draft: French star Alex Sarr goes No. 1; Kentucky has two players in top four
Sarr, an 18-year-old center could make the jump from the NBL to the NBAwww.cbssports.com
Why comment on something you clearly never watch?No one plays defense in the NBA anymore. These guys should fit right in.
I'd be shocked if he's drafted this year. From my eye test.I love Reed but no team is gonna pick him #2. It’s not happening this year or any other. He’s a prototypical #20ish pick IMO.
At first I read that as "draft Justin for a GM spot" and I thought holey moley that would be awfulThese are all awful but if you draft Justin Edwards as a GM you’re going to be unemployed
You need to get your eyes checked?I'd be shocked if he's drafted this year. From my eye test.
+ high IQ
+ excellent shooter from deep
+ good free throw shooter
+ calm almost all the time
- often doesn't look for shot, or even shoot when he's open
- not a good passer
- plays bad defense no matter who it is
- doesn't seem to be vocal on the court
He's not a good passer, do you watch the games? He had a number of awful passes today. An average of 4 assists per game isn't actually that good. On one career page I looked at, since the 1970's, the guy in the 250th spot averaged 5.21 assists per game. In the top of that list, the average was around 8-something. Being the best passer on the team doesn't make him a good passer. You should spend more time watching games, and less time following mock drafts. I advised the same for Cow, but he never listens. And, no I don't need my eyes checked. I've been watching the Cats since the 1980's. If Reed stays another year, which he should, running an offense and creating for others is something he needs to work on. He's undersized at any other spot on the court.You need to get your eyes checked?
You think he's not a good passer?
He's probably the best passer on the team with
over 4 assists a game which leads the team.
Every mock draft I have seen has him in the first round with some in the lottery.
Well I've been watching the Cats since 1964 andHe's not a good passer, do you watch the games? He had a number of awful passes today. An average of 4 assists per game isn't actually that good. On one career page I looked at, since the 1970's, the guy in the 250th spot averaged 5.21 assists per game. In the top of that list, the average was around 8-something. Being the best passer on the team doesn't make him a good passer. You should spend more time watching games, and less time following mock drafts. I advised the same for Cow, but he never listens. And, no I don't need my eyes checked. I've been watching the Cats since the 1980's. If Reed stays another year, which he should, running an offense and creating for others is something he needs to work on. He's undersized at any other spot on the cou
No need to keep analyzing and re- analyzing Reed's game.He's not a good passer, do you watch the games? He had a number of awful passes today. An average of 4 assists per game isn't actually that good. On one career page I looked at, since the 1970's, the guy in the 250th spot averaged 5.21 assists per game. In the top of that list, the average was around 8-something. Being the best passer on the team doesn't make him a good passer. You should spend more time watching games, and less time following mock drafts. I advised the same for Cow, but he never listens. And, no I don't need my eyes checked. I've been watching the Cats since the 1980's. If Reed stays another year, which he should, running an offense and creating for others is something he needs to work on. He's undersized at any other spot on the court.
He will get drafted probably first round still but he’s not ready.I'd be shocked if he's drafted this year. From my eye test.
+ high IQ
+ excellent shooter from deep
+ good free throw shooter
+ calm almost all the time
- often doesn't look for shot, or even shoot when he's open
- not a good passer
- plays bad defense no matter who it is
- doesn't seem to be vocal on the court
One of the reasons I like Reed so much is because of his parents. He's a FANTASTIC kid, and his parents care about him. For that reason I don't want him to leave this year and get burned by the NBA. He's really good, but he desperately needs another season and I'm hoping Cal has the sense to say "kid you will make a ton of money next year, and your parents are in your corner, come back to get better all around".He will get drafted probably first round still but he’s not ready.
I hope he comes backs to build a legacy.One of the reasons I like Reed so much is because of his parents. He's a FANTASTIC kid, and his parents care about him. For that reason I don't want him to leave this year and get burned by the NBA. He's really good, but he desperately needs another season and I'm hoping Cal has the sense to say "kid you will make a ton of money next year, and your parents are in your corner, come back to get better all around".
Why comment on something you clearly never watch?
People that consistently say there is no defense in the NBA are just flat ignorant of the NBA. Either watch it, or quit commenting about it.
Not at all, I do believe the role players of today are far greater than those of the past though. Also, no illegal defense anymore greatly helped defense.I watch NBA games almost every night. It's not on the players. It's how the rules have been changed to give offensive players every advantage possible while handicapping defenses.
Let me guess, you two fellows are the types who believe today's players are such superior athletes no one can stop them?