Quick observation about the freshman class

[Caveman Catfan]

The RB from Madison Southern saw himself as big time and his plan all along was to go to a big time school. He never had any intention of going to UK which he did not see as big time. He was just toying with UK to get the perks he could out of them. I just do not think this is something you should do to your home state school.

I think he has burned a bunch of bridges that he might need later in life. I would not have though badly of him for going to Alabama if not for his game playing with UK. I would have not like it and would have understood. The part I did not like is his stupid game playing . My advise to that kid is show some class.

Harris handled it poorly and deserves ire for that. He chose a hell of a school to pursue his football skills, however (just watch the draft each year). There are a number of very good reasons why he should have pursued his dreams at UK, but he did not.

Still cannot grasp your need to challenge posters who disagree with you by claiming they are not UK fans. That part is a real headshaker.

 

[Deeeefense]

I thought the same thing, it looked as if his Mom was expecting him to attend UK, that's a long ride to Tuscaloosa! With that being said, when I saw the footage of King during our Signing Day broadcast, I told KG that Harris would be an afterthought.

Well next season we get to pay a little visit to Tuscaloosa, and Mr. King and the Wildcats will have an opportunity to make a statement to Mr. Harris.

 

[greginky1957]

Wish I could give this about 10 more likes!!!

I gave him one for you!! As another poster stated DH "the football player" is dead to me. I know it is sour grapes but I used to root for AL but I never will again. I think DH and N$ deserve each other

 

[Parabolicsecan]

I did not say other pitches were good pitches. If your son believes UK alums are more loyal than other sports crazed schools, more power to him, but 30 years in the industry suggests otherwise. If that was his primary reason for picking UK, I believe it was not wise.

I reread my comment and couldn't find an assertion that other sports crazed schools are not as loyal (heck of an inference you made). My son believes UK has one of the best medical/engineering curriculums in this region for his degree, best alumni from that program to connect with while having one of the best coaching staffs with a track record for developing players in his position to potentially play professionally, RELATIVE to his other options at that time (football powerhouse schools). Other sports crazed schools we visited showed us their awesome sports facilities and some parts of the campus, didn't take one step into an engineering or medical school building let alone speak on potential employment opportunities when the cleats were hung up, outside of Wake Forest. More than one head coach told him they didn't want to talk about academics anymore, obvious red flag. Not to suggest Harris won't have connections from UA alumni when he's done, but I doubt it would be in the biomedical engineering field, which is what my son wants to do as a plan B. I would suggest he made a very wise decision using a multivariate approach with less than a year in the industry.

 

[Comebakatz3]

I reread my comment and couldn't find an assertion that other sports crazed schools are not as loyal (heck of an inference you made). My son believes UK has one of the best medical/engineering curriculums in this region for his degree, best alumni from that program to connect with while having one of the best coaching staffs with a track record for developing players in his position to potentially play professionally, RELATIVE to his other options at that time (football powerhouse schools). Other sports crazed schools we visited showed us their awesome sports facilities and some parts of the campus, didn't take one step into an engineering or medical school building let alone speak on potential employment opportunities when the cleats were hung up, outside of Wake Forest. More than one head coach told him they didn't want to talk about academics anymore, obvious red flag. Not to suggest Harris won't have connections from UA alumni when he's done, but I doubt it would be in the biomedical engineering field, which is what my son wants to do as a plan B. I would suggest he made a very wise decision using a multivariate approach with less than a year in the industry.

I gotta say... it sounds to me like your son is wise beyond his years. I wish I had a plan and knew what I wanted to be even before I stepped onto a college campus. Instead, I bounced around several majors and then ended up being an attorney. In all seriousness, I do not know your son, but the image you have painted for him makes him out to be an upstanding young man and I would like to thank him for attending the University of Kentucky, and that thanks is not because he is playing football for UK, but because he looks to be an excellent ambassador for UK as well as an amazing role model for others.

I hope that doesn't sound weird... I personally know Randall Cobb's father (and I used to work with Randall before he went to UK) and people have laughed at me a time or two when they have heard me thank Mr. Cobb for his son attending UK. They don't quite understand why I would be so thankful.

Anway, on topic... I think that job prospects would likely fluctuate depending on how well the individual does, the team does, and if the individual is a well known member of the team. As examples, I think Morgan Newton and Mike Hartline would have a tougher time finding Ky jobs than Andre Woodson. DJ Warren would probably have a tougher time than some guys because not many people would easily recognize Warren as a former UK fullback. I think that would be the case with just about any big time state school.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

I reread my comment and couldn't find an assertion that other sports crazed schools are not as loyal (heck of an inference you made). My son believes UK has one of the best medical/engineering curriculums in this region for his degree, best alumni from that program to connect with while having one of the best coaching staffs with a track record for developing players in his position to potentially play professionally, RELATIVE to his other options at that time (football powerhouse schools). Other sports crazed schools we visited showed us their awesome sports facilities and some parts of the campus, didn't take one step into an engineering or medical school building let alone speak on potential employment opportunities when the cleats were hung up, outside of Wake Forest. More than one head coach told him they didn't want to talk about academics anymore, obvious red flag. Not to suggest Harris won't have connections from UA alumni when he's done, but I doubt it would be in the biomedical engineering field, which is what my son wants to do as a plan B. I would suggest he made a very wise decision using a multivariate approach with less than a year in the industry.

I think he made a wise well-informed decision and am happy UK made a point to address those issues that's are important to your son. And, as a fan, I am thrilled he came here.

The suggestion, however, made by another poster that Harris made a mistake because he could have had a good job in Kentucky after school had he chosen UK is a bad reason to choose UK. I think your description is apples to his oranges.

I too have had a son be recruited by schools. He too chose UK, but had he picked UK primarily for the reasons cited by that other poster, I would have told him he was making a foolish mistake about his next four years.

 

[docinjax]

After college Harris may as well stay in Alabama or play of Sundays. There won't be many good employment opportunities waiting for him back in Kentucky. Probably not many in Alabama either. He'll just be another Yankee who played football for a couple of years and never was never really one of them. Kentucky is the far North to most people in Alabama. Lord love them.

Better be as good or better than Joe Namath if he wants to be accepted with open arms by Bama folks.

Guess he and his family never thought of that.

If we are all that petty about a kid that decided to go to Alabama to play football, then we plain suck as human beings.

 

[uk_king_cat2]

Would the fan base accept Harris with open arms if he wanted to Transfer to UK in a couple years.

 

[knotonalog]

I agree with you, I don't know if these kids being young and not knowing much about the real world understand how much time, effort and resources these schools spend on them during recruitment or they just don't care. I guess maybe they feel like it's owed to them in some way or maybe they have earned all the attention. But official visits for kids and their group add up. It's really frustrating for a fan when all that time and resources have been wasted on someone who decides to go elsewhere.

You can't blame the players for taking advantage of the recruiters who want to land these players. Some probably do string out their recruitment and give false signals as to who they are going to sign with.

On the other hand you never know what will change a players mind and it makes the extra effort pay off. Its hard to say that its wasted time and effort. Just part of recruiting. jmho

 

[Parabolicsecan]

I think he made a wise well-informed decision and am happy UK made a point to address those issues that's are important to your son. And, as a fan, I am thrilled he came here.

The suggestion, however, made by another poster that Harris made a mistake because he could have had a good job in Kentucky after school had he chosen UK is a bad reason to choose UK. I think your description is apples to his oranges.

I too have had a son be recruited by schools. He too chose UK, but had he picked UK primarily for the reasons cited by that other poster, I would have told him he was making a foolish mistake about his next four years.

Agreed.

 

[DACats86]

My contention is that all recruited athletes should look at all aspects of the schools that are recruiting. Look at the facilities, how the athletes are treated while at the school and after, opportunities for a professional career, academic opportunities, and opportunities for a career after sports. This shouldn't matter if the player is in state, out of state, or wherever. Unfortunately, though, many times the only thing the recruit (and his family) looks at are the name on the jersey and waterfalls in the locker room. For these reasons, I cannot even begin to express my admiration for the Daniel family. I think that UK does take efforts to take care of its athletes during and after their time at UK, including making sure they have an opportunity for an excellent education.

I also believe that the recent spate of high level recruits transferring after only a few days in camp is a reflection that they are not being shown the full story of athletic and academic life at those institutions.

 

[ukalum1988]

What about the rumors that Harris was homesick?

Probably just that - a rumor and nothing more. Even if true, Harris made an adult decision about future back on January 9, and now he has to manage the consequences good and bad of that decision. Don't let the comments in the thread fool you - I sense that the vast majority of UK fans, while having the memory of a sour taste of DH, have moved on quite well since then.

Back to the OP, I'm pretty excited about the 2015 class and agree it was highly undervalued at the time the class rankings came out after NSD.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Harris is reportedly getting snaps at Bama. I suspect he is happy.

 

[Calsarmy]

Agreed.

I would like to respond to my original post if I might. My view is very simple on DH. If he would have said this time last year "Hey guys I love UK, wish you all the very best, but Ive made my decision to go to AL" I would have hated it for UK but wished the kid the best. AL is AL after all. But,,,,,,,,,,,,,,instead he lied to us. Knowing he had made his decision he wanted to spend weekends in Lexington having a big ole time. Knowing if he had announced in Aug or Sept of last year that wouldnt have happened. Instead he lied. Led Coach on for months and months. UK using valuable resources to recruit DH. So all of you telling me that we need to move on, that is not going to happen. He done did us wrong and for that he gets no forgive and forget attitude. Stoops did a huge job in recruiting last year and probably going to be even better this year. Our guy is getting it done, but DH did us wrong.

 

[TeoJ]

The way I look at Damien,you can't lose something you never had.
The twins we're a loss but pretty much a wash with the ones we picked up.
The two Dlineman hurt I think sytrowbridge and Hamilton.

I'm just glad that we had a staff that had a plan A and a plan B it did take a lot of the sting out.

 

[Vonburns1]

Alabama is a larger state population wise and should have more job opportunities than KY, so that argument is not correct IMO. In addition our largest city is two-thirds full of UL fans who would probably like to hire someone other than a UK grad.

 

[Deeeefense]

I reread my comment and couldn't find an assertion that other sports crazed schools are not as loyal (heck of an inference you made). My son believes UK has one of the best medical/engineering curriculums in this region for his degree, best alumni from that program to connect with while having one of the best coaching staffs with a track record for developing players in his position to potentially play professionally, RELATIVE to his other options at that time (football powerhouse schools). Other sports crazed schools we visited showed us their awesome sports facilities and some parts of the campus, didn't take one step into an engineering or medical school building let alone speak on potential employment opportunities when the cleats were hung up, outside of Wake Forest. More than one head coach told him they didn't want to talk about academics anymore, obvious red flag. Not to suggest Harris won't have connections from UA alumni when he's done, but I doubt it would be in the biomedical engineering field, which is what my son wants to do as a plan B. I would suggest he made a very wise decision using a multivariate approach with less than a year in the industry.

Very interesting stuff. I'm grateful your son found the best fit for him and it was us
Thanks for sharing.

 

[Deeeefense]

My contention is that all recruited athletes should look at all aspects of the schools that are recruiting. Look at the facilities, how the athletes are treated while at the school and after, opportunities for a professional career, academic opportunities, and opportunities for a career after sports. This shouldn't matter if the player is in state, out of state, or wherever. Unfortunately, though, many times the only thing the recruit (and his family) looks at are the name on the jersey and waterfalls in the locker room. For these reasons, I cannot even begin to express my admiration for the Daniel family. I think that UK does take efforts to take care of its athletes during and after their time at UK, including making sure they have an opportunity for an excellent education.

I also believe that the recent spate of high level recruits transferring after only a few days in camp is a reflection that they are not being shown the full story of athletic and academic life at those institutions.

I think they should also talk to other parents of SAs that have been there are year or two and get their take on how satisfied they are now with their kids decision in retrospect.

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

Would the fan base accept Harris with open arms if he wanted to Transfer to UK in a couple years.

I've also wondered the same....

 

[How Blue Can You Get?]

Totally agree...The Harris episode really irked me....It was just totally bad taste on his part.

I watched his announcement at his High School and if you watch, his mom looks disappointed. I really believe she wanted him to go to UK. I still say he made a mistake and should have gone to UK.

agree, and can't help but wonder if this is why he strung us along. Maybe he knew he wanted Bama all along, but was being pressured by his Mom and didn't know how to deal with it so he just played along? Heck, maybe he even thought his Mom might make him go to UK, so he didn't want to close that door prematurely? I understand folks being upset about how it went down, but you have to take into account how young these kids are, and all the pressures they have from all sides. Even if they know deep down where they are going, they may not have convinced themselves, or other family members yet. Can't blame a top back for wanting to play for Saban at Bama..that's like a point guard wanting to play for Cal at UK. Ultimatly, I'm not gonna hate on Harris, or any other kid. I would just like to see UK grow to the point that we can take a Harris led Bama team down in the SEC championship and make him think twice about his decision!

 

[Deeeefense]

I would like to respond to my original post if I might. My view is very simple on DH. If he would have said this time last year "Hey guys I love UK, wish you all the very best, but Ive made my decision to go to AL" I would have hated it for UK but wished the kid the best. AL is AL after all. But,,,,,,,,,,,,,,instead he lied to us. Knowing he had made his decision he wanted to spend weekends in Lexington having a big ole time. Knowing if he had announced in Aug or Sept of last year that wouldnt have happened. Instead he lied. Led Coach on for months and months. UK using valuable resources to recruit DH. So all of you telling me that we need to move on, that is not going to happen. He done did us wrong and for that he gets no forgive and forget attitude. Stoops did a huge job in recruiting last year and probably going to be even better this year. Our guy is getting it done, but DH did us wrong.

I'm curious as to how you and others are able to get inside this kids head and know all of his motives and decisions since he nor anyone with any connection to him has ever eluded to your scenario.

I'll admit I don't know what his motives and decisions were either but it makes absolutely no sense to me that any player would spend enormous amounts of his time with a coaching staff, through phone calls, personal visits by the staff, and attending games and other events at Kentucky just so he could "pull one over".

In fact I would say there is a large body of evidence that flys in the face of that theory, including the fact that one Nick Saban was still putting on a full court press just days before his decisions. If his decision had already been made, why was Coach Saban on high alert?

I'm sorry the kid didn't choose UK but I for one am getting a little tired of the winning and conspiracy theories about Damian Harris. IMO he gave us a serious look, he leaned hard in our direction, his mom wanted him to go to UK but in the end the lure of the Crimson Tide and national championships, and playing for arguable the best coach in the business pushed him the other way.

Deal with it.

 

[jauk11]

I did not say other pitches were good pitches. If your son believes UK alums are more loyal than other sports crazed schools, more power to him, but 30 years in the industry suggests otherwise. If that was his primary reason for picking UK, I believe it was not wise.

I'm not sure it matters a lot in KG's case, sounds like he has his head on straight AND has some excellent guidance from his father. But I believe you are wrong in your stance, I believe UK fans are starved for football heroes and he will be much more recognized and looked up to at UK than some place like Bama, where he could get lost in the All Americans. It seems there was a lot of thought put into his choice, and some sound logic. I think UK should be high on a lot of great prospects list, great STATE University, beautiful campus, great fans, and maybe most important the facilities AND personnel to allow you to maximize your opportunities-----both on and off the field. I particularly think the S&C program is a big plus, along with the coaching and academic support.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

I'm not sure it matters a lot in KG's case, sounds like he has his head on straight AND has some excellent guidance from his father. But I believe you are wrong in your stance, I believe UK fans are starved for football heroes and he will be much more recognized and looked up to at UK than some place like Bama, where he could get lost in the All Americans. It seems there was a lot of thought put into his choice, and some sound logic. I think UK should be high on a lot of great prospects list, great STATE University, beautiful campus, great fans, and maybe most important the facilities AND personnel to allow you to maximize your opportunities-----both on and off the field. I particularly think the S&C program is a big plus, along with the coaching and academic support.

Even if I bought your premise, which I do not, it would have been an awful reason for a smart kid like Harris to pick UK.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

BTW, a winner like Towles does not pick UK because if he fails at his dream, some UK alum will give him a job. That kind of kid would likely agree with Paul Finebaum that UK should dream about making a bowl game and be happy.

 

[Blue Decade]

But I don,t like the way he lead us on.

High school players take their 5 visits, then make a college decision. Harris didn't make the decision you wanted him to make. You have no idea what was said between Harris and Stoops, or if he lead Stoops on. Because Harris went to Alabama, Kentucky signed Sihiem King. Harris has 5 stars, and Harris is competing for playing time. King is also competing for playing time. How can you be sure King won't accomplish as much or more at Kentucky as Harris accomplishes at Alabama? Do stars tell you? Were you upset when Marcus Walker lead Florida on and signed with Kentucky? When Chris Westry lead Auburn on and signed with Kentucky? When Trey Lyles lead Indiana on and signed with Kentucky? When Terrance Jones lead Washington on and signed with Kentucky?

 

[hmt5000]

different universities have different strong points. for instance, a friend of mine was telling me that UK has a good "in" with several tech co's out west with our engineering school. several grads got started out there and did well and it paved the way for a bunch of job openings over the last decade not just because of a "UK network" but because they hire kids from here that do a good job and they just go back to the well. also, a kid graduating from UK will probably take less money than a stanford grad and if an employer feels he's getting good deal then he will stick with what's working.

if kg is in the bio-medical field then i would say he's going for jobs that simply playing at bama or fsu are not going to get you... you better actually be smart and qualified. sounds like kg believes that UK will actually make him qualified for a job instead of just being the dumb jock that gets a mid level desk job with no possibility of promotion.

and we all bring up the "stay home and be hero" thing but how many kids even at bama can be that guy? seriously, if he went to bama and started 3 years and went in the 3rd round of nfl draft and won 1 national title... where does that put him in the pecking order of getting alumni help for a job after school? i'll bet it's not in the top 100 of most fans favorite players. if he has a successful career here and a stint in the nfl and then goes for a job afterwards....then im sure that actually having a real degree that he worked for and that the school and stoops sold him on will pay off wayyyy better than just being a bama grad and every UK alumni in that field would be more than happy to help him land with their co.

 

[Parabolicsecan]

BTW, a winner like Towles does not pick UK because if he fails at his dream, some UK alum will give him a job. That kind of kid would likely agree with Paul Finebaum that UK should dream about making a bowl game and be happy.

Now this has to be one of the most irrational posts I've read to date. Please give these student athletes a lot more credit for being able to having a game plan for life after football that will allow them to capitalize on the connections and friendships during their tenure at a university. As I told my son, there are plenty of positive externalities that come from dedication, hard work, commitment, being coach able and demonstrating leadership. The NFL/dream is just one of those externalities. The abovementioned traits will lead to success for anyone, let alone students who are fortunate enough to graduate without debt while making those vital connections. Come on now!

 

[hmt5000]

Now this has to be one of the most irrational posts I've read to date. Please give these student athletes a lot more credit for being able to having a game plan for life after football that will allow them to capitalize on the connections and friendships during their tenure at a university. As I told my son, there are plenty of positive externalities that come from dedication, hard work, commitment, being coach able and demonstrating leadership. The NFL/dream is just one of those externalities. The abovementioned traits will lead to success for anyone, let alone students who are fortunate enough to graduate without debt while making those vital connections. Come on now!

agreed. truth is that any D1 athlete that achieves academic success will get extra consideration in the work force. Pat in particular is gonna be set... his grandfather was a US senator... it's not right and it's not fair but i've seen some douchebags who's parents or grandparents were politicians, make out quite nice in life. pat is a hard worker and actually very likable... he's gonna do well after football.

 

[Bigblueforever]

I would like to respond to my original post if I might. My view is very simple on DH. If he would have said this time last year "Hey guys I love UK, wish you all the very best, but Ive made my decision to go to AL" I would have hated it for UK but wished the kid the best. AL is AL after all. But,,,,,,,,,,,,,,instead he lied to us. Knowing he had made his decision he wanted to spend weekends in Lexington having a big ole time. Knowing if he had announced in Aug or Sept of last year that wouldnt have happened. Instead he lied. Led Coach on for months and months. UK using valuable resources to recruit DH. So all of you telling me that we need to move on, that is not going to happen. He done did us wrong and for that he gets no forgive and forget attitude. Stoops did a huge job in recruiting last year and probably going to be even better this year. Our guy is getting it done, but DH did us wrong.

I fill same way, leading Kentucky on don't fly with me. I am sure Kentucky could got a good replacement if Harris had been true where he was going with Stoops.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Now this has to be one of the most irrational posts I've read to date. Please give these student athletes a lot more credit for being able to having a game plan for life after football that will allow them to capitalize on the connections and friendships during their tenure at a university. As I told my son, there are plenty of positive externalities that come from dedication, hard work, commitment, being coach able and demonstrating leadership. The NFL/dream is just one of those externalities. The abovementioned traits will lead to success for anyone, let alone students who are fortunate enough to graduate without debt while making those vital connections. Come on now!

Sorry if you think UK offers your son something other universities would not. In my travels I have found many universities with big time football where the alums look out for their own. I find Stanford, Notre Dame, And Northwestern to greatly eclipse UK alum's involvement, perhaps because they are private schools. If a kid makes this a primary consideration to attend UK, I find that irrational.

(Michigan and OSU are great at this, in my experience, as are many others)

 

[Caveman Catfan]

agreed. truth is that any D1 athlete that achieves academic success will get extra consideration in the work force. Pat in particular is gonna be set... his grandfather was a US senator... it's not right and it's not fair but i've seen some douchebags who's parents or grandparents were politicians, make out quite nice in life. pat is a hard worker and actually very likable... he's gonna do well after football.

If Pat has political aspirations, going to UK makes great sense. But, if he wants a sales job or some other workforce position because he played at UK, that is foolishness. Schools across the nation offer the same thing. And, if that is his primary reason for picking UK or one of the tops, he is unlikely to be in the NFL. That mindset will not get him there. Pretending UK is unique in this way is, to again borrow a word, irrational.

 

[Parabolicsecan]

Sorry if you think UK offers your son something other universities would not. In my travels I have found many universities with big time football where the alums look out for their own. I find Stanford, Notre Dame, And Northwestern to greatly eclipse UK alum's involvement, perhaps because they are private schools. If a kid makes this a primary consideration to attend UK, I find that irrational.

(Michigan and OSU are great at this, in my experience, as are many others)

Look past the names of universities, it's about the people http://bizlex.com/2015/01/bio-med-startup-to-take-injectable-back-pain-treatment-to-european-market/

A non surgical injectable agent to help with chronic back pain and spinal degeneration about to cross European borders? Are you kidding me? We sat down with Dr. Hedman and talked potential opportunities here and overseas after football, explored the different paths of biomechanics in terms of his focus and the enhanced development of athletes . Already shadowing Eric Korem, High Performance Model Guru, that is internationally recognized. Seriously, look at what's going on outside of Football at UK, on par with those schools you listed depending on the field of study and contributions. Heck, open heart surgery with out being in the room, using robots! That's what we experienced on our first visit here. KG has a friend who is attending Notre Dame, guess what? He has been recommended a major to stay eligible.

 

[hmt5000]

If Pat has political aspirations, going to UK makes great sense. But, if he wants a sales job or some other workforce position because he played at UK, that is foolishness. Schools across the nation offer the same thing. And, if that is his primary reason for picking UK or one of the tops, he is unlikely to be in the NFL. That mindset will not get him there. Pretending UK is unique in this way is, to again borrow a word, irrational.

OK, well couch is on tv so how did he get ther playing at UK? also lorenzen is a pseudo-celebrity and i would think has better name recognition than half of the bama qb's the last 20 years. not saying it is unique just that it does have a network to tap into just like most schools do. no benefit, and no detriment.

i would agree that nd, stanford, and northwestern are better at networking but those are also academic schools and not comparable to bama and fsu. hell, harvard and princeton are better than those 3. but kg made the decision that based on sports and academics that UK was his best offer. the description of his visits to other schools made it clear that they didn't give an ish about HIS academics other staying eligible.

the fact you are arguing it makes me think you didn't go to UK. i know plenty of very successful classmates at UK that could help me with a job if i had applied myself at school. alas im more of a "work with hands" type of person and left school with only 70 credit hours. but there is a network to tap into. it's not like being a boise st grad or a ul grad were you basically have a state or city where your degree is respected.

 

[ukalum1988]

I fill same way, leading Kentucky on don't fly with me. I am sure Kentucky could got a good replacement if Harris had been true where he was going with Stoops.

It's over man. Let it go. Are you not satisfied with King? I sure as hell am.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Look past the names of universities, it's about the people http://bizlex.com/2015/01/bio-med-startup-to-take-injectable-back-pain-treatment-to-european-market/

A non surgical injectable agent to help with chronic back pain and spinal degeneration about to cross European borders? Are you kidding me? We sat down with Dr. Hedman and talked potential opportunities here and overseas after football, explored the different paths of biomechanics in terms of his focus and the enhanced development of athletes . Already shadowing Eric Korem, High Performance Model Guru, that is internationally recognized. Seriously, look at what's going on outside of Football at UK, on par with those schools you listed depending on the field of study and contributions. Heck, open heart surgery with out being in the room, using robots! That's what we experienced on our first visit here. KG has a friend who is attending Notre Dame, guess what? He has been recommended a major to stay eligible.

That is all great, but has nothing to do with what I said.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

OK, well couch is on tv so how did he get ther playing at UK? also lorenzen is a pseudo-celebrity and i would think has better name recognition than half of the bama qb's the last 20 years. not saying it is unique just that it does have a network to tap into just like most schools do. no benefit, and no detriment.

i would agree that nd, stanford, and northwestern are better at networking but those are also academic schools and not comparable to bama and fsu. hell, harvard and princeton are better than those 3. but kg made the decision that based on sports and academics that UK was his best offer. the description of his visits to other schools made it clear that they didn't give an ish about HIS academics other staying eligible.

the fact you are arguing it makes me think you didn't go to UK. i know plenty of very successful classmates at UK that could help me with a job if i had applied myself at school. alas im more of a "work with hands" type of person and left school with only 70 credit hours. but there is a network to tap into. it's not like being a boise st grad or a ul grad were you basically have a state or city where your degree is respected.

One of Bama's lesser known QBs is an analyst on the SEC network. What are your talking about?

Your anecdotal claim could be said by alums of just about any large university.

 

[hmt5000]

One of Bama's lesser known QBs is an analyst on the SEC network. What are your talking about?

Your anecdotal claim could be said by alums of just about any large university.

your the one that acted like UK didn't have "a" network. look dude, every school has them. some better than others. but if you think a kid that isn't actually studying biomedical sciences is gonna get a job in biomedical sciences because of the school he went to then you are wrong. the point is that its a tough curriculum and we are aiding him in going that route instead of steering him toward basket weaving and unc type afro american studies courses. no one is saying we have some special network that exist nowhere else all that was said, in the original post, is that in the biomedical field UK grads have a good network and that he will get a good job after he's done playing. quit being a dick and acting like all UK degrees are the same.

want more anecdotal nonsense? i had a TA in chemistry that went to oxford... what? oxford grad at UK? the chemistry professor was considered one the top 3 guys in the world on alzheimers. but your probably right. it would probably be better to go to bama and not worry about studying with a preeminent expert in the field in which you are studying and just rely on billybob to hook you up with a car dealership which would go well with a medical degree!!!!!

 

[Parabolicsecan]

your the one that acted like UK didn't have "a" network. look dude, every school has them. some better than others. but if you think a kid that isn't actually studying biomedical sciences is gonna get a job in biomedical sciences because of the school he went to then you are wrong. the point is that its a tough curriculum and we are aiding him in going that route instead of steering him toward basket weaving and unc type afro american studies courses. no one is saying we have some special network that exist nowhere else all that was said, in the original post, is that in the biomedical field UK grads have a good network and that he will get a good job after he's done playing. quit being a dick and acting like all UK degrees are the same.

want more anecdotal nonsense? i had a TA in chemistry that went to oxford... what? oxford grad at UK? the chemistry professor was considered one the top 3 guys in the world on alzheimers. but your probably right. it would probably be better to go to bama and not worry about studying with a preeminent expert in the field in which you are studying and just rely on billybob to hook you up with a car dealership which would go well with a medical degree!!!!!

Pretty much all I was trying to say^^

 

[Caveman Catfan]

your the one that acted like UK didn't have "a" network. look dude, every school has them. some better than others. but if you think a kid that isn't actually studying biomedical sciences is gonna get a job in biomedical sciences because of the school he went to then you are wrong. the point is that its a tough curriculum and we are aiding him in going that route instead of steering him toward basket weaving and unc type afro american studies courses. no one is saying we have some special network that exist nowhere else all that was said, in the original post, is that in the biomedical field UK grads have a good network and that he will get a good job after he's done playing. quit being a dick and acting like all UK degrees are the same.

want more anecdotal nonsense? i had a TA in chemistry that went to oxford... what? oxford grad at UK? the chemistry professor was considered one the top 3 guys in the world on alzheimers. but your probably right. it would probably be better to go to bama and not worry about studying with a preeminent expert in the field in which you are studying and just rely on billybob to hook you up with a car dealership which would go well with a medical degree!!!!!

I cannot even read past your first sentence. I never once said UK did not have a network. Wow. I said (1) every big school has a network (been to three myself) and (2) a player who chooses UK primarily for post grad networking made a foolish decision. Specifically. I reject the silly notion that Harris should have come to UK because fans would have taken care of him after school.

Sorry if you said something compelling after you butchered my comments. Just not interested in reading a long post that has such an Inaccurate start.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

your the one that acted like UK didn't have "a" network. look dude, every school has them. some better than others. but if you think a kid that isn't actually studying biomedical sciences is gonna get a job in biomedical sciences because of the school he went to then you are wrong. the point is that its a tough curriculum and we are aiding him in going that route instead of steering him toward basket weaving and unc type afro american studies courses. no one is saying we have some special network that exist nowhere else all that was said, in the original post, is that in the biomedical field UK grads have a good network and that he will get a good job after he's done playing. quit being a dick and acting like all UK degrees are the same.

want more anecdotal nonsense? i had a TA in chemistry that went to oxford... what? oxford grad at UK? the chemistry professor was considered one the top 3 guys in the world on alzheimers. but your probably right. it would probably be better to go to bama and not worry about studying with a preeminent expert in the field in which you are studying and just rely on billybob to hook you up with a car dealership which would go well with a medical degree!!!!!

Read the rest. Wow. There is a lot of defense there of things I NEVER SAID. That was one wild post. SMH