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Sumrall

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Any coach you get is going to be a risk. There is no automatic slam dunk hire…hiring coaches is a total crap shoot. While Frost and Napier (debateable) are examples of G5 guys that failed, Drinkwitz and Heupel are examples of guys from G5 who have succeeded. Any route you go (Coordinator, G5, current P4) have success stories and failures.

In the past 30 years, UK has hired a current P4 coach (Curry), FCS coach (Mumme), position coach (Morris), former P4 coach turned NFL coach (Brooks), internal coordinator (Joker) and external coordinator (Stoops). Some have worked to an extent, others have failed miserably.

With Sumrall…is it a risk…of course. All hires are. Does he have characteristics that coaches need to be successful…yes. He was the best recruiter on staff when he was here. Players love him. He has charisma to work with donors on NIL.

Is he the perfect candidate? No

Is he worth taking a shot on knowing he’s a UK grad and former coach that could build this into something long term if he succeeds? I would say yes.

Doesn’t mean I’m not open to other possibilities. If there is a better candidate that UK has a shot at, go for it. I’m just not sure who that is.
Thanks for the well thought out and respectful response. I'm not totally against the guy but my viewpoint is you have to look at and interview several candidates for proper due diligence. There are easily equal or better candidates out there. By no means would be a home run hire , but honestly UK could do much worse.
 
I think most have accepted that Stoops tube here is done. Some aren’t totally enamored with Sumrall (I think he would be great). But every time I ask for candidates that they want, it’s crickets.
KY would be a perfect fit for the Marshall HC. Guy was Saban’s right hand man at Bama before his first HC job for the Herd. Has a contract that’s expiring no buyout and could get him for a lot less than anyone else. The guy can recruit and Coach and has a chip on his shoulder!!!
 
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Dude has been at Tulane for one year. One. He hasn't even had a chance to recruit to suit his scheme yet. Even so he had a successful season at a perineurally terrible team. You don't do that unless you know how to coach.

Stoops time here is done. Some of you just need to accept it. Sumrall is the best available to us replacement for him.
A terrible team? Tulane won 12 games then 11 games the 2 years before he got there lol. Including beating USC in the cotton bowl.
 
I will say I don’t think if Brown had been hired yrs ago , he wouldn’t have been great here during that time . Being an offensive guy , he’s burned thru DC’s like we have OC’s ….and ended it all after making another mid season change at DC. & giving up 52 in his last game @ WVU
I’m not as much defending brown as much as I’m pointing out how tough that job has become when we’re saying their coach isn’t as capable as stoops. For brown or whomever else ends up there... it’s not a straight 6 wins here, 7 there discussion when there arent three payoff wins. And when satterfield was at UL it might as well have been 4.
 
I’m not as much defending brown as much as I’m pointing out how tough that job has become when we’re saying their coach isn’t as capable as stoops. For brown or whomever else ends up there... it’s not a straight 6 wins here, 7 there discussion when there arent three payoff wins. And when satterfield was at UL it might as well have been 4.
Brown could end up here next yr as some sort of offensive quality control …maybe a backup for a midseason switch should Bush struggle
 
I have said it several times on this board but some still don’t listen….i have contacts to someone who is in the inner working for the SEC coaches….its well known amongst all of them that they believe Sumrall is the next big thing in the SEC.

I’ll take that over a bad performance at Army.

Reminder they are still 9-4 and he has either won the conference or finished second in every season he has been a coach
 
I have said it several times on this board but some still don’t listen….i have contacts to someone who is in the inner working for the SEC coaches….its well known amongst all of them that they believe Sumrall is the next big thing in the SEC.

I’ll take that over a bad performance at Army.

Reminder they are still 9-4 and he has either won the conference or finished second in every season he has been a coach
Is that "next big thing in the SEC" at UK??
 
I see Sumrall as being an upgrade most likely but not a guy who is going to make us great. I don’t know if there are many coaches who could make us great honestly.
Everyone is crying for offense, points, and more wins. Maybe everyone may throw up but a proven winner, offense wizard, one of the best play caller with a ton of head coaching experience. I am not sure he would pass the fan's litmus test but Bobby Petrino would greatly improve our football program. He has warts but he would be our warts and the win column would look a lot better than it has here lately. Winning ballgames gets more forgiveness than anything. Bobby rolls into Lexington, turns our down & out football program around and most KY fans would want him to run for governor. I'm just saying, he would have more success than a young Sumrall. Write in his contract, no Harleys, no young friends with benefits. Do those things and in 2 to 3 years we would be giving TN, FL, and South Carolina fits. He would jump at the opportunity for another Head Coaching job, especially in the SEC. He would come for a lot less than we are currently paying for a coach who in 12 years has put us at the bottom of the SEC.
 
A terrible team? Tulane won 12 games then 11 games the 2 years before he got there lol. Including beating USC in the cotton bowl.
They did but those seasons they also played with a qb that was in the top 10 of every school statistic for his career and AAC Offensive Player of the year. This season they played with a freshman qb. Although that kid is now testing the portal market for more $.
 
I have said it several times on this board but some still don’t listen….i have contacts to someone who is in the inner working for the SEC coaches….its well known amongst all of them that they believe Sumrall is the next big thing in the SEC.

I’ll take that over a bad performance at Army.

Reminder they are still 9-4 and he has either won the conference or finished second in every season he has been a coach
It’s about the ‘right ‘ job , tho. Who in the world would not think Scott Frost , off a 12-0 season at UCF, would not work @ Nebraska? It didn’t , because Nebraska is one of the toughest gigs in America right now . Wait till OK state eventually fires Gundy…expectations will rise or be equal ( 9,10 wins potential playoff every 3-4) for the next guy …and I bet he doesn’t last 4 yrs. UNC is a tough job , gonna be tougher after revenue sharing , as their revenue from ACC TV deals is much less than Big 10 or SEC TV deals . Also , expect some top ACC teams like FSU , Clemson , Ga Tech etc to get plucked away
 
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Excellent news that he’s staying. The timing would’ve been perfect this year, but let’s go get him after Stoops either leaves or is fired next year.
 
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I have said it several times on this board but some still don’t listen….i have contacts to someone who is in the inner working for the SEC coaches….its well known amongst all of them that they believe Sumrall is the next big thing in the SEC.

I’ll take that over a bad performance at Army.

Reminder they are still 9-4 and he has either won the conference or finished second in every season he has been a coach

That will come to a swift end if he comes here.
 
the ‘24 cycle of open Power 5 jobs isn’t what it usually is. With AD’s still needing to crunch revenue sharing numbers …buyouts aren’t all that attractive right now
 
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People can debate on this all they want, unless he gets scooped before the slot is open, or he turns us down. Sumrall will be the next coach at UK. Not confirmed, but reported he was the early top candidate when Stoops tried to bolt to A&M. If stoops has another subpar year and gets canned, Sumrall will be at the helm the following season. Mark it down. The only thing that would change that is if Tulane missed a bowl next year, which isn't going to happen., or if by some miracle another hot shot expressed interest. I cant see that either. I will say, anyone who doesn't understand why, or doesn't agree with Sumrall being a hot up and coming coach, doesn't know near as much about the sport of football as they think they do. He played at UK, he coached at UK, he's a proven recruiter and he wins. Doesn't matter what the competition level is, he wins and not only does he win, he plays for league titles. Doesn't mean much until it does, but if the spot comes open, as of today, he is the immediate top candidate. Also, for all those who think the AAC isn't good football, I'm not sure UK goes 6-6 in that league this year. Not saying that the AAC is better than the SEC lol, its not. But, we are nitpicking Sumrall, when it couldn't be much worse here right now and no "big name" coach is going to walk into our situation as is. He is young, he would bring energy and that is what this program needs. I would love to see him as the head coach here.
 
I’d love to have Lashlee at UK
University of Tulsa just hired Tre Lamb from ETSU as their head coach. He is a winner and would have been a GREAT hire for us. In 5 years Lamb will be a coach for a big time program. We could have gotten him for $1 Million and saved us $8 Million a year for Stoops buyout. Remember Lamb's name over the next few years.
 
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What about rolling the dice with Oregon’s OC Will Stein whose dad played at UK?
 
University of Tulsa just hired Tre Lamb from ETSU as their head coach. He is a winner and would have been a GREAT hire for us. In 5 years Lamb will be a coach for a big time program. We could have gotten him for $1 Million and saved us $8 Million a year for Stoops buyout. Remember Lamb's name over the next few years.

I know the Lamb family, they are good football coaches, but not the greatest people.
 
University of Tulsa just hired Tre Lamb from ETSU as their head coach. He is a winner and would have been a GREAT hire for us.

Of course, TU will not be much impediment should we look that direction in a year or two.
 
That will come to a swift end if he comes here.

Mmmmmmm.

In 2017, I was battling posts that said we’d never win more than Brooks’ eight games a year, or play on New Year’s Day.

Yep. It would be a huge “upset” for a Coach to turn UK into a perennial power, but UGA had solid claim to only one National Title before Kirby Smart. Yes they were on a higher level than us, but still, change is doable.
 
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