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Have heard the Key plan for a couple of years was to move on for his Senior year. No surprise here.
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Have heard the Key plan for a couple of years was to move on for his Senior year. No surprise here.
I think Key just wants to benefit from a bidding war type thing in NIL ’free agency’ his last yr of college. He could set himself for life prior to any NFL. He may even end up a #2 or 3 WR option somewhere big . In my opinion, he’s in the portal now no matter where he’d played prior.
We should approach this like we are trying to recruit 22 brand new starters, one for every position on both offense and defense. That is essentially what we need, minus a small handful of positions. And to have any shot at a winning season, we're going to need these to be quality transfers, so we're probably talking about an average NIL of $250,000 each minimum. We would likely have to shell out considerably more for a proven QB, WR or pass rusher. Desperate times call for desperate measures, so this coaching staff needs to bring in a haul like Ole Miss did last year, or at a minimum, meet needs as well as Indiana and Louisville did in the portal last year. They are going to have to shell out some $$$ to make it happen. And luckily, it appears the money is there. So we'll just have to see how it plays out. By essentially having to hire mercenaries for a season, we may just be trading one group of team cancers for another group of team cancers. There are so many variables in play that makes this whole thing an inexact science.
Your perspective is somewhat ridiculous. This program has always been "circling the drain" except during the time the Bear and Stoops have coached here.
Let’s say Key’s market price is 800K. What do you think a starting tackle in the SEC is going to get?
If you believe the numbers being thrown around Miami-Ohio State-Ole Miss rosters were 15m-20m. Michigan paid 8m on a QB. $250K will get you players but not elite guys.
If you believe the numbers being thrown around Miami-Ohio State-Ole Miss rosters were 15m-20m. Michigan paid 8m on a QB. $250K will get you players but not elite guys.
Portal opens soon. All announcements now are just the intent to enter. UK will know who we might get after this wkend I assume.
IF Key was in good standings with the team, you would think UK would offer a nice NIL package to keep him. MAYBE the staff wanted him to leave. Just a guess. Funny how he leaves and Maclin stays. They offered Maclin more $$ and maybe wanted him to stay more than Key. Key probably wanted to go somewhere to play in a more pass successful offensive, but I have the feeling it was not just that.
I know the coach left, but I am saying maybe the reason Key left was because maybe he got complacent and didn't want to put in the extra work or do team oriented things. It is not just a case of him leaving for greener pastures and more money. I think he and Stoops may have had some issues, not just the WR coach. Sometimes a kid can get cocky and full of himself. Not saying that is the case, just a possibility.
It is kind of like the players we like, it is the coaches fault, but players we dislike, it is "he needs to leave, we can get better". I think some fans are this way with Key. He is not innocent or without fault in leaving, it just doesn't look right from the outside looking in.
You know, I really don't believe in coincidences...just my nature. I don't believe Maclin JUST SO HAPPENED decided to stay after Key decided to haul.
Recall a comment Stoops made just a few days ago: "Some guys need to go." Have no idea who he was talking about but I think there's some guys he won't miss one iota.
I'm 77 and soon be 78. Just think what I've had to endure. Be safe my friend.. I did meet the Bear when I was a kid so I got that going for me.
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You fail to recognize that there's trending up, and then there's trending down. I really do appreciate Stoops' efforts to build the program from the wreckage of the Joker mistake. After a couple of rebuilding years, we went to eight straight bowls. He got us two 10-win seasons. Then, there was a bit of a drop off, and things soon started to trend worryingly downward. He frankly seems lost and disinterested now, though. His and his staff's lack of attention filtered down to the team the last few years, with the downward trend rapidly turning into the the bottom completely falling out this past season.
That's over 4 years though. Reportedly $10m+ with incentives, so $2.5m/year for the #1 overall recruit.
He should start with himself
So much pressure on UM with that being an in-state kid. …with NIL , flipping and his development. It’s a disaster if he doesn’t come close to expectations
Two I’ll say as pure speculation as they haven’t portaled but
Walker Parks. He’s an annual name but he has one final year left. Would be plug and play at RT for his final year playing at home.
Malachi Lawrence. From Louisville and played at Manuel. At UCF in the Big 12 and had 7.5 and 5 sacks b2b years. Not sure you’d want him to be the best pass rusher on the team but think he could be a good option to be your #2 edge.
Walker Parks. He’s an annual name but he has one final year left. Would be plug and play at RT for his final year playing at home.
Malachi Lawrence. From Louisville and played at Manuel. At UCF in the Big 12 and had 7.5 and 5 sacks b2b years. Not sure you’d want him to be the best pass rusher on the team but think he could be a good option to be your #2 edge.
100 percent. I coached a number of years and one year I had a stud qb, fb, 2 tail backs and some pass catchers. Basically all the skill guys were top shelf. We lost every game that season because our line was basically non existent. All those little sports cars and not one of them could
Get out of the garage.
One year later we got right on the line. All new personnel and the next two seasons were undefeated. Now these were younger athletes but it doesn’t matter. As long as it’s football it revolves around the o line
Going to need too many players, to fill the void left by graduation and transfers, to have anything that will resemble a team next season. PS Stoops should do the honorable thing and step down. No excuses for a coach after being here for 12 years, with the salary he makes
When I played (well, practiced a lot, I didn’t see the field much) for Oldham County back in the 80’s, my sophomore year we went undefeated all the way up until losing in the Semi finals to the eventual State Champ Christian County 6-0 on a questionable center sneak in a storm of freezing rain, sleet and cold. We had some big boys that year on the line, some went on to play college ball, one walked on at UK for a couple of years after wrestling at a MAC school. We allowed something like a total of 48 points scored on us all season and pitched six shutouts. It was all downhill after that season. When the big boys left we had an OL that featured a guard who was 5’-7” and 165 lbs. strong as an ox though. Was my sisters boyfriend for a couple of years. He actually got an honorable mention all-state playing guard at that size. But we only won like 3 games my junior year.
Will need players whether Stoops is here or not. So you're saying another coach would be more successful bringing in winning players?
Don’t forget Curci. He recruited Florida before anyone else did and his team that went 10-1 was the best team in the country. Should never have let him go IMHO
This whole things starts and ends at the line of scrimmage. What you have on the O and D line dictates just about all of your success. Everybody talks about throwing to the tight end. When they’re being used as extra blocker on the LOS, which is what happens here 95% of the time, it’s impossible to use them on offense. So we should focus on rebuilding the offensive line first, defensive line second. The rest of the team needs to be made up of strong, fast athletes. Nothing help defense like speed.
We need both offensive and defensive lines. After that the secondary needs immediate help. Everything else is going to have to rely on the players who are up and coming.
There's a LB upgrade from Tyreese Fearbry and Noah Matthews right down the road in Bowling Green. A lot of their guys are entering the portal. A starting DT and their quarterback. Sounds like Tyson Helton is on the move.
As has been stated. Get as many good lineman as you can get. With Maclin staying and if Gilmore stays that’s a nice receiver pair. Get Wilcox to stay. Develop Boley. Overspending on QB’s isn’t working. Rid yourself of Wolford. Go back to the power running game that Stoops prefers. Instill disciplined football minimizing errors. Stop with the incessant showboating while you’re getting your ass beat. I prefer a fresh start with a new coach but this is the only way a coach like Stoops is gonna have any success at all.
Is there word Gilmore might stick around? Im all for a healthy competition at QB among Boley and Saunders in the spring. Focus on revamping the OL in a big way and give those guys some protection. I’d love nothing more than for one of them to develop into a 3-4 year starter. But in order to do that they need not be running for their lives every snap.
I haven't seen an iota of evidence to suggest Gilmore will leave. An SEC starting job is falling into his lap here.
FWIW Rowland says Gilmore/Wilcox are staying.
Do you think he is really going to get more out of the portal than he would as a 2nd day draft pick? Unless he just bombs at combine i think he is at worse 3rd pick. Be lots of WR hitting g the portal, and key may be the number 1 receiver but if it's just for money why not declare for the draft? I was hoping to land him, but if he is looking for the highest bidder it won't be UGA.
Sure seems like stoops recognizes errors and lapses in culture he allowed and is allowing a bunch of guys to walk in an attempt to reset.
Very promising.
He was just ahead of his time, he probably cheated less than 90% of the schools do today
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