POLL: Is there a God ??
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Far-right? Real treason has a codified punishment of death. The issue isn't the sentence but the crime.
WildcatfaninOhio
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The ole double whammy! And they’re doubly horrible.
Looking right at you, Mike Pence.
That's all just simplistic rationalization.
The gods of other religions are not love. Only Christ is love: only God is love. He is the only one who declares his primary attribute to be Love, no other "gods."
Imagine not finding God because you hate certain politicians who self-identify as Christian.
Joe Biden is a devout Catholic, or so they say. I don't really know. Best I can tell he seems pretty quiet about it all. I would call him a Politician who happens to be a Christian, not a Christian Politician.
What I do know, is that he doesn't wave the Bible around like a prop in school play like one of his predecessors. The same predecessor who was photographed surrounded by a group of adoring evangelicals, despite paying off porn stars to hide his affairs. He doesn't run around like an idiot demanding that we post the Ten Commandments at schools and government buildings He isn't out there leading the charge against treating Gay folk like human beings, while also hav been photographed in drag. He isn't on the House Floor crying about the "right to life" before it's revealed he pressured his wife and girl friend to have abortions.
I know that nobody's perfect, and liberals have their Bill Clinton's, Elliott Spitzers' John Edwards, and so on. What is appalling however, is when someone uses the Bible or the Cross to garner political support,
WildcatfaninOhio
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I’m not finding your favorite god because I haven’t looked for him. I don’t waste time searching for fictional characters. Besides, I was not aware that he was lost.
And I don’t give a rat’s backside if a politician identifies as xian. But I do care greatly when that politician tries to use him political power to insert his Christian beliefs into the law. That’s why I have an issue with Mr Pence. I don’t hate him. Never met him. But I dislike him because of his stances.
I know; you've told us already multiple times.
Why keep telling us?
Incidentally, I also agree Christians should not interject their beliefs to society writ large through government. You atheists shouldn't either.
We are not called to create a theocracy.
Aren't you supposed to be ignoring Ohio, myself, and our blind ilk? Can't you remember what to do with us?
Atheists want to maintain separation of church and state as our Constitution makes clear of.
I don't see atheists demanding schools force children to deny a god.
I do see Christians in particular wanting things like the 10 Commandments to be posted in public schools (Texas recently), or want to replace counselors in schools with chapalins. Don't get me started on the crazy parents that want schools to teach the farce of Creationism.
SDC will be along shortly to tell you why that's different.
I had a good friend in high school who was deeply religious. We went to a public school. One day in a science class, he raised his hand and respectfully asked the teacher who was talking about evolution why he wasn't teaching the class about God being the creator. The teacher was respectful back and explained why he wasn't. It was handled in the correct manner and honestly, my friend who was a teen should've already known the answer but I think he was a bit naive. There's a clear separation that should be in place. Some atheists are annoying, like the guy who years ago tried to get In God We Trust taken off money. I get it, but you're really going to waste your time with that? Snoopy could be on our money and none of us would actually care.
In my experience, again, while some atheists do enjoy picking at Christians, atheists haven't been the pushy ones. And in deep red states, there's been a push to blur those lines of separation. I could be wrong, but while a majority of the country is religious, I think a majority do want a separation in place and don't want the pushiness of "my God is better than your God and our country should be lead by my God".
I had a good friend in high school who was deeply religious. We went to a public school. One day in a science class, he raised his hand and respectfully asked the teacher who was talking about evolution why he wasn't teaching the class about God being the creator. The teacher was respectful back and explained why he wasn't. It was handled in the correct manner and honestly, my friend who was a teen should've already known the answer but I think he was a bit naive. There's a clear separation that should be in place. Some atheists are annoying, like the guy who years ago tried to get In God We Trust taken off money. I get it, but you're really going to waste your time with that? Snoopy could be on our money and none of us would actually care.
In my experience, again, while some atheists do enjoy picking at Christians, atheists haven't been the pushy ones. And in deep red states, there's been a push to blur those lines of separation. I could be wrong, but while a majority of the country is religious, I think a majority do want a separation in place and don't want the pushiness of "my God is better than your God and our country should be lead by my God".
I said I agree with separation of Church and State. Therefore, i would not agree with someone posting the ten commandments in a Highschool classroom unless it was in a class about world religions.
In that vein, an example of athiesm forcing itself on others would be atheists stopping football teams from holding a prayer circle after a game. People should be allowed to express themselves freely within normal, commonly accepted bounds.
Not super-current, but this survey might be of interest regarding Americans' opinions on separation of church and state:
In U.S., Far More Support Than Oppose Separation of Church and State
Some Americans clearly long for a more avowedly religious and explicitly Christian country, a March survey finds. However, a clear majority of Americans do not accept these views.
www.pewresearch.org
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WildcatfaninOhio
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Yeah, you could not possibly be more wrong. A public employee (football coach) has no business leading prayers before, during or after a game. No way. No how. Never!
It’s not a matter of forcing atheism on anyone. It a matter of stopping taxpayer funded institutions from promoting a religion.
My question is; is it okay for kids to kneel after the game and pray? I wouldn't take issue with that at all, but the coach leading prayers is different. Because not everyone is Christian. Like if the coach was Muslim and half the players were Muslim and they prayed after the game that would be considered divisive. And yes, wrong for a public employee. My father was a public high school basketball coach and Christian. He never prayed with his team.
WildcatfaninOhio
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I personally have no problem with individuals (not public employees) deciding to kneel/bow/genuflect/stand on their head after a game. Or to thank their favorite imaginary friend for taking sides and causing the other team to lose.
Ok. I can agree with that, the coach should not lead them; they should lead themselves.
I do agree, again, the state should not promote religion. They, however, allow secular atheist religion (activism) under the guise of inclusion. Teachers (any public employee) should not be promoting their (your) worldview either.
WildcatfaninOhio
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I recently discovered a great new game. Take a weird, twisted buybull story and turn it into a Florida Man headline. My favorite so far….
“Florida man attempts to murder his own son. Claims god told him to do it.”
“Florida man attempts to murder his own son. Claims god told him to do it.”
WildcatfaninOhio
All-American
Nope! Leave religion and non religion up to individuals. I have no interest in forcing my non belief on anyone.
I don't think I've ever had an atheist ask me to become an athiest. It isn't some club; it's just random people who do not believe in any god.
Florida man who was missing for three days claims he was living inside of a giant fish. The young man credits the fish for saving his life.
"Something is wrong. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, crime, torture, corruption and the ice capades. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. This is not what you expect to find on the resume of a supreme being. It's what you expect from an office temp with a bad attitude." - George Carlin
“The God excuse, the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument.”
George Carlin
I'm not discussing Christianity with you. Perhaps that wasn't clear but then you aren't the sharpest tack so now you know.
Insults/judging...from a Christian say it ain't so.
Better get on your knees you might have strayed from the herd.
He loves to sling insults in argument; I know from experience. What he's said to you is nothing compared to what he's said to me.
But that doesn't make him not Christian, just not Christ-like. He shouldn't do it, sure... neither should you people either, yet you feel righteous and justified in it.
What you say cannot be insulting because you believe it to be true? I guess you weren't judging either....
And I'm not the sharpest tack.
What you said is true.
But that's an insult and not relevant of that truth.
You, judging and claiming to know how I feel.... is that you being an asshole or just asshole-like?
For general interest, reference and possible discussion, here is a 3-1/2 year-old survey article regarding atheists in the USA. It is an update of an article originally posted on 11/05/2915 ...
www.pewresearch.org
en.wikipedia.org
8 facts about atheists
Around six-in-ten U.S. atheists are men (64%). And seven-in-ten are ages 49 or younger, compared with about half of U.S. adults overall (52%).
www.pewresearch.org
Pew Research Center - Wikipedia
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“general interest” - that made me laugh. Thanks.For general interest, reference and possible discussion, here is a 3-1/2 year-old survey article regarding atheists in the USA:
8 facts about atheists
Around six-in-ten U.S. atheists are men (64%). And seven-in-ten are ages 49 or younger, compared with about half of U.S. adults overall (52%).
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