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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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Who’s the one focusing on a particular detail and ignoring the context? The quote illustrates that “demographic changes” are what yall have a problem with. Not crime, wage suppression, or any of the other dog whistles normally used. You literally cut out four words and then accused me of focusing on only a portion....

Jesus Christ, it’s like you see no problem at all with people illegally entering the country.

You’re only justification in what you know is wrong, is to convince yourself we’re monsters.
I don’t give 2 shits what demographic they are, I care about having a country that maintains its border as the Constitution demands. What other laws can we ignore?
 
Jesus Christ, it’s like you see no problem at all with people illegally entering the country.
Only problem I see with it is that it creates a class of undocumented workers who can be exploited. That reduces the bargaining power of legal workers who are then forced into a bidding war with quasi-slaves and everyone races to the bottom.

Solution: if someone wants to come here they get a work visa. No more undocumented workers underbidding legals. No more red tape and delays in processing which incentivize illegal crossings. If anyone can show up at the border and get a visa for work then the only people with a reason to avoid legal crossings would be people engaged in criminal activities. Our current border security is more than enough to catch those few would-be criminals, but as is they have to spend all their time rounding up migrants who just want to work and live and combing through them all to try to find the handful of criminals using them as cover. They can contribute economically but if they want the rights and privileges afforded to citizens they have to take the time and effort to go through the process, showing that they're productive, law-abiding individuals any nation would be proud to have.
 
Only problem I see with it is that it creates a class of undocumented workers who can be exploited. That reduces the bargaining power of legal workers who are then forced into a bidding war with quasi-slaves and everyone races to the bottom.

Solution: if someone wants to come here they get a work visa. No more undocumented workers underbidding legals. No more red tape and delays in processing which incentivize illegal crossings. If anyone can show up at the border and get a visa for work then the only people with a reason to avoid legal crossings would be people engaged in criminal activities. Our current border security is more than enough to catch those few would-be criminals, but as is they have to spend all their time rounding up migrants who just want to work and live and combing through them all to try to find the handful of criminals using them as cover. They can contribute economically but if they want the rights and privileges afforded to citizens they have to take the time and effort to go through the process, showing that they're productive, law-abiding individuals any nation would be proud to have.

Wow - the only problem of illegal immigration is the ability to exploit them?

You are clearly a socialist/communist and I will not be communicating with you any further. You're part of the reason this country has its problems.
 
Only problem I see with it is that it creates a class of undocumented workers who can be exploited. That reduces the bargaining power of legal workers who are then forced into a bidding war with quasi-slaves and everyone races to the bottom.

Solution: if someone wants to come here they get a work visa. No more undocumented workers underbidding legals. No more red tape and delays in processing which incentivize illegal crossings. If anyone can show up at the border and get a visa for work then the only people with a reason to avoid legal crossings would be people engaged in criminal activities. Our current border security is more than enough to catch those few would-be criminals, but as is they have to spend all their time rounding up migrants who just want to work and live and combing through them all to try to find the handful of criminals using them as cover. They can contribute economically but if they want the rights and privileges afforded to citizens they have to take the time and effort to go through the process, showing that they're productive, law-abiding individuals any nation would be proud to have.

So anyone that shows up at our border can just come right on in? Just give them a work Visa?
You don’t think that still doesn’t flood the workforce with low skilled workers? What about the humanitarian crisis that would create, that is literally taking place right now?
 
the very wealthy are never actually losing wealth, that's whom I'm talking about. not the wealthy that are concerned by market dips.

it's a more nuanced point that I'm not really that concerned to go in to, partly because people are so conditioned by the way the media talks when they say stuff like Facebook drop X percent, so Zuckerberg just lost billions today or it was a bad day for Bezos! no it wasn't, their actual wealth is always hedged
Yet you keep going into it.

Tell me that none of the Forbes top 100 net worth folks never have a lower net wealth the next year & I'll believe you. But let's not go into it any further.
 
LOL at being upset over Ingram's comments. As if all demographic changes are somehow inherently good and have no unintended consequences. How's that working out in Europe (which is legal)? Hell, how's that working out in California(some legal, mostly illegal)?

Funny, haven't seen any outrage by the resident insanes when their own people/party openly cheer for demographic changes via the ELIMINATION of the white race. When you insanes start speaking out against that maybe we'll take your outrage more seriously. Stupid f*cks.
 
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haha, you guys are obsessed with Cardkilla

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So anyone that shows up at our border can just come right on in? Just give them a work Visa? You don’t think that still doesn’t flood the workforce with low skilled workers? What about the humanitarian crisis that would create, that is literally taking place right now?
We're at basically full employment now. There are posts every day from yall about companies looking for workers. Will market forces prevail or are American workers so uniquely fragile they must be protected from legal, regulated competition?

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

As for the humanitarian crisis created by our border policies, change the policy and you solve the problem. If children didn't have to walk through the desert they wouldn't be dying of dehydration. If you don't have to smuggle people or drugs in anymore coyotes wouldn't have jobs.
 
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I am beginning to like this government shut down. The sun came up this morning and all is bright. We are doing well as a country with these non-essentials staying home. I think we should take an inventory of jobs in the government and all non-essentials should be given their pink slip and find a job where they are needed.

Running a government is simple.
 
We're at basically full employment now. There are posts every day from yall about companies looking for workers. Will market forces prevail or are American workers so uniquely fragile they must be protected from legal, regulated competition?

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

As for the humanitarian crisis created by our border policies, change the policy and you solve the problem. If children didn't have to walk through the desert they wouldn't be dying of dehydration. If you don't have to smuggle people or drugs in anymore coyotes wouldn't have jobs.


Companies are looking for workers. Not non-skilled non-English speaking bodies.

There's a process by which the tired, poor, huddle masses yearning to breath free, etc. can immigrate to the United States. Bullshit claims of asylum while rejecting offers of asylum from other countries is not that process.

So if we do away with our borders, people will no longer smuggle people or drugs over the border. You people are so goddam stupid it's beyond comprehension.
 
This trend of videotaping anyone being the slightest bit mean to any type of minority and then labeling them racist/anti-gay, etc has to be stopped. 99% of the time, these people are just assholes.

Do these triggered people think that us privileged white males just go through life with everything working out perfectly and being nice and giving you everything you need because of the color of our skin and we don't have day to day challenges?
 
As well as Jordan, the UAE, Egypt, and Turkey just to mention majority Muslim countries since yall are so hung up on them. Some of us have to work for a living and the economy is global. The rest of the world is not made up of "shithole countries" like yall want to believe. "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.” - Mark Twain

BTW Morocco has some of the most beautiful beaches in the world, there's a reason it's a playground for Europe's rich and famous. I still make shakshuka some mornings if I get a hankering.
 
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